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+ 58 More bad news: Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH Janoshik Tests

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TLDR: Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH both came back from Janoshik at zero. A further GCMS test of the test cyp revealed it to be MCT Oil and Vitamin E. Osgear was prompt and good to deal with in getting a refund. Also had prior experience with underdosed Ultima HGH last year. All test results and further details below.

  1. Beligas Test Cyp 200 mg/ml; Exp: 11/30, Lot: C942002
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106138-Cypo_1_QJTDWCJZ2TM6
    b. https://janoshik.com/tests/111080-Cypo_1_7XWSTMCB9UNP
  2. Beligas Test Cyp 200 mg/ml; Exp: 11/30, Lot: C942002 (2nd Vial)
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106139-Cypo_2_DASF3EJEIPUG
  3. Ultima HGH: 10 iu/vial; Mfg: 7/25, Exp: 7/30, Batch: S-TP80315
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106141-HGH_Somatropin_191AA_DJ167V6G17VJ

I wanted to add some more info to the conversation on here about the Ultima results people are seeing. In December I ordered Beligas Test Cyp and Beligas HGH from Osgear. When the order arrived I actually received Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH. I complained to Osgear because for the HGH I specifically ordered Beligas because last fall I received an underdosed batch of Ultima HGH (tested at 6.84 iu, labeled 10 iu, see results below). Osgear responded saying that due to supply of Beligas HGH being out of stock the shipping department replaced my Beligas with Ultima HGH. They said the batch I had last fall was removed and the new batch was tested by the manufacturer so I could use it with full confidence. They also said that ultima and beligas are manufactured in the same factory so there is no difference in quality between the two.

Obviously, things changed when I got the results from Janoshik and it is clear that ultima is not testing their end product. Osgear was very responsive to me providing this testing but it was also right around the time things were starting to heat up around the Ultima test raws. I specifically asked for a refund instead of store credit and they provided a full refund for the entire purchase, I believe this came from the manufacturers. They also provided in store credit for my Janoshik testing costs, which I appreciate and makes me more likely to do more testing in the future.

I have seen some posts from them assuring people that ultima test c and test e are the only products affected. I didn’t care for that since I had already sent them my ultima HGH results showing 0 iu. I can understand they don’t want a panic and they have a business to run, but overall I don’t love the experience with Ultima, Beligas, or Osgear. Again, to be fair they did make everything right with no pushback.

Fall 2025 Order

In September of last year I ordered some HGH, Clenbuterol, and Test Cyp, all from Ultima, through Osgear. They all came back underdosed. The test and clen were not too bad but the HGH was way under. Osgear gave me full credit for the HGH and partial credit for the clen and test since they were still usable. At that time I was pleased with that outcome and willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Here are those results:
1. Ultima Test Cyp 250mg/ml; Batch: MTO11551
a. 223.52 mg/ml & 226.53 mg/ml
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81959-UltimaCyp_250_9SV3M9NV75XI
c. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/88198-aas_1_KTDKMNP5PHM3
i. Same vial tested, second sample was blind to Janoshik
2. Ultima HGH 10 iu vials: Batch: S-TP81315
a. 6.84 iu, 90% purity
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81961-UltimaHGH_6WWPJJ7KWZEY
3. Ultima Clenbuterol 40 mcg pills, batch: MTB70778
a. 31.55 mcg
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81960-UltimaClen_JC6321LDPE43

HGH Testing

Also, a note on HGH. It is expensive to test. If you want to do dimer and purity in addition to the iu/mg amount it costs $420 ($20 more if you want the raw data) plus you have to burn a full vial of whatever you’re testing. I think this leads to it being tested less than other products. I suspect that is why I haven’t seen anyone else posting about fake HGH, it just doesn’t get tested that much, and people probably notice the difference less when using it when it is fake.

Janoshik

I have been very pleased with my experience with Janoshik testing. The new website is great and user friendly. I have done some testing where I listed the manufacturer and some blind. Specifically with the Ultima Test Cyp, one sample I listed the manufacturer and batch and I also sent in another blind sample from the same vial and the results were very, very close.

The notes from my fake HGH test said they actually tested that vial twice and I really appreciated that. I also liked that they noted that for the fake testosterone GCMS that they found the oils and vitamin E consistent with other fake products they were seeing. That kind of insight was helpful. They were also the ones who offered the GCMS testing after the test cyp resulted at zero and that was helpful to get to find out what was actually in there. I will not use any products without testing with them first.

Conclusion:

Overall, I will try some other stuff on Osgear, partially or maybe mostly because I have the credit. I am a strong maybe on Beligas but I don’t have any reason to try Ultima again. I had some prior beligas that tested well and I know Buttery had good results from them too. I do have some ultima primo that I just received but had ordered prior to this testing coming back. I’ll be testing that as well but again, I don’t see ordering ultima again.

I have several different products from ZPHC that have all tested well on the results from our friend Buttery. I am going to order a few more things from them and test those and will post the results but I am more optimistic about that brand and that’s the direction I’m headed.

Finally, I haven't posted before, just been watching, reading, and learning for the most part. 'm relatively new to all of this. I just started last year but since I have all these results I wanted to share to help out. I have never done a promo with any brand and the only credit I've gotten was due to refunds for poor products.

Good luck, stay safe, and test your stuff.

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

I will say that you are the only source that is actually being transparent and trying to fix things but that still doesn't change things.

Osgear's picture

Yes, it doesn't change things, but it can change the attitude towards us.

Twiz56's picture

It certainly seems that way, especially with OS. They seem to be defending Ultima every chance they get. I won't be using them ever again or participating in any of their promos.

Osgear's picture

No, we do no defend Ultima. They have made a huge mistake and we all support the consequences. We just want to explain and solve the situation, with good care for the customers and make from all this a situation that can be handled. Putting that much low energy into this is not helping. Community means value, unity and understanding. We can't be hate and wisdom in the same time.

BigDdaddy's picture

Ummmmm....so your saying HGH Frag is water repellent? How exactly does that in any way make it legit? For starters, it is not hydrophobic. It is in fact very water soluble. Your defenses for this brand have not been very educated brother. You are just coming on here and spouting off random statements in their defense without proper knowledge of the actual facts....or truth for that matter.

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Osgear's picture

Hello,

We have a huge experience with dealing with peptides, considering the interaction we have daily with our customers and we have also an experienced persona that advise us. And we do not defend any brand - because we sell multiple HGH FRAGMENT brands - and the situation is similar for all. Another fact is that thousands of members here have got Ultima and Beligas peptides and used/use them successfully - IF ARE USED CORRECTLY. The raws issue appeared around August 2025, when the factories stopped producing mainly TEST and that was the cause of the issue the manufacturers are facing now. And is not only Ultima or Beligas, this is most likely just the beginning... but the peptides were never a subject of raws shortage.

Here is the explanation that was provided by our pro:

Real FRAG is always cloudy. Here is why.

The chemical sequence of HGH Fragment is such that it contains very hydrophobic amino acids. Hydrophobic amino acids are very difficult to dissolve. Hydrophobic molecules are literally "water-fearing".

HGH Fragment is by far the most hydrophobic of any peptides available related to GH research. Now, you have probably purchased HGH Fragment in the past and not had this issue. That is because your HGH Fragment came from China or because - for reasons I cannot fully explain - this is not an issue with every reconstituted vial. The process in China includes using a copious amount of acetonirile. To put this into perspective - when our peptides are being synthesized and then tested for purity- a small amount of acetonirile is used to remove the impurities from a column that is being tested during the HPLC- .1% acetonirile to be exact.

Now acetonirile is a poisonous substance and needs to be removed from the final product - (it metabolizes into cyanide). If this substance is not removed, the effects can be very dangerous indeed. Chinese chemists use 10% acetonirile to dissolve the HGH Fragment!

So, although this is very counter-intuitive, the fact that your HGH Fragment is cloudy tells you that it is true HGH Fragment, and that it does NOT contain copious amounts of acetonirile.

We know it is not aesthetically pleasing, and again it is hard to wrap our minds around the fact that if something is cloudy that it might not be "bad for us" as compared to something that is not. It is counter to our experiences in life.

Here is the "fix". 1 ml of .6% Acetic Acid will completely resolve the situation! The peptides are completely solvent in that mixture.

Respectfully!

BigDdaddy's picture

So your trying to tell me that Ultima hgh is not Chinese?

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Osgear's picture

I'm telling you facts about the HGH Fragment.

bulkzane's picture

This is so disappointing. Have some Ultimate products that haven't been called out, but who knows in the future.

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TheIcon's picture

I have some Ultima Anavar Im curious about. Fig out if worth Jano or not.

HapaBoy83's picture

For those using mainly Ultima or Beligas what brands are you moving to? Started looking more into Pharmacom, Xeno, Sixpex and Pharmaqo?

BigDdaddy's picture

Pharmaqo had a big blunder here years back with some very underdosed products, but I believe they've come a long way. Sixpex seems to be doing very well too.

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Scipeno's picture

Around the time Mast E was starting to became unavailable months back, I was able to order some from Pharmaqo, i'm 90% sure this was actually test prop and contained no Mast.

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HapaBoy83's picture

Thanks.

Bill1976's picture

I haven’t see anybody leave a review for the bunk gear yet. What gives?

FlemDaddyKush's picture

a lot of people don't want to leave bad reviews because everybody jumps on them and calls them a liar unless they have tests done. And this is wrong. And this is how all these sources are getting away with selling either underdosed or fake gear. Alot of people just take the L and move on.

Twiz56's picture

Nailed it! That is EXACTLY why you don't see any negative reviews. It's a flawed system.

Janefonda's picture

My guess would be they are holding off in fear of a bad review could hinder them getting replacements or compensation, or atleast delay it possibly. Just a thought.

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Pandateston's picture

Yep ! I’m genuinely curious how this plays out, because usually the reseller blames the manufacturer, the manufacturer says they got fooled, and it turns into a finger-pointing contest. But at the end of the day … responsibility falls on everyone in the chain. Manufacturer, brand, reseller. The customer … whether it was promo gear for a review or fully paid … is the one taking the risk and ends up being the victim.

Do I think resellers will accept negative feedback gracefully? That’s the real question.

And does offering a replacement automatically earn 5 stars? In my opinion, no.

A replacement is damage control … not a reset button. If bunk gear was injected, health was potentially put at risk, and HPLC already confirmed issues, that’s enough to justify a negative review. Trust is the currency in this game. Once that’s broken, you can’t just negotiate it away with a swap.

Bill1976's picture

I would t the a replacement. I’d just leave a review. It’s truthful and that’s what this site is for. Plus they are still selling the same brand of gear

Banjokid2020's picture

My review didn't sit well with the source. I will be transparent and say my test wasn't one thats been outed as bunk. But I explained hesitancy at first bc of color, and then decided to not run it based on current climate/test results. I feel my review was fair and respectful. So no, I don't think they will accept true negative feedback well if it should come

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Pandateston's picture

They’ll probably play the victim and say they were being responsible and tried to offer a replacement… and that they should’ve been contacted first so it could be handled “amicably.”
You already know how that goes, right?

Banjokid2020's picture

100%. It'd be much better to do things in private for them and make a customer happy and not make noise. There was never an offer of that for me, nor was I looking. I mean the gear was indeed free. And I showed much appreciation to them for getting free gear into my hands. But me stating hesitation, which is what anyone with those 3 big names is having right now, didn't sit well with them. Oh well

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Bill1976's picture

I just read that review

bkauf80's picture

Sitting on 4 Beligas test Cyps just received different bath number but hesitant to use.
Received Beligas Test Cyp 250
Lot # C846019
Exp 7/30
Lab report for this batch on Beligas is not uploaded however they test all products I’m very skeptical now

RyanRunsRoids's picture

I’ve got 4 packs of the Ultima-HGH 10IU/10vial kits. All the bunched batch, S-TP80315. I’m not sure how to got about this. I’ve been on 4iu daily for 2 weeks now. Just been stabbing myself with nothing. OSGear what’s the next steps or people who have felt with this issue…?

Peterpanz's picture

Exactly same thing here.. Did you feel anything? I saw that when I reconstituted mine there were a lot of white not dissolving properly at the bottom I guess all the batch is bunk with this code..

GoneLiftin29's picture

Thank you for you dilligence bro. /much much appreciated man, much respect.

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dcf143's picture

new user here. sorry to thread jack but can
someone help me post a new thread about sciroxx. i have gc/ms results from an certified drug analysis lab in the united states and the results are disturbing. unknown substances in heavy concentrations, wrong substances and also underdosed. to make matters
worse the were informed of this and kept selling and are still selling the product.

Drexyl's picture

Click on your profile, then click submit. Go from there.

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TheIcon's picture

Honestly this pushes me more and more towards cooking my own. Assuming you can find a good source of raws. Got a few recipes Im itching to try out.

press1's picture

It can get Tricky though if it contains too many peanuts - then it no longer 'injects smooth as butter' .....

BigDdaddy's picture

Especially if it's crunchy PB.....like the stuff you get from Ultimas "random supplier"!

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Pandateston's picture

Or just stick with a smaller, reputable domestic UGL. Less hype, less noise. Most of them either provide real HPLC or at least have consistent, honest reviews … especially since they’re not running flashy promos or hiding behind big brand names.

A lot of the time they give more direct attention to customers too. Lower volume usually means better control over brewing, raw sourcing, and overall quality management. Whether they’re brewing in-house or reselling, that tighter operation can actually work in your favor.

Just my opinion … sometimes smaller and steady beats big and loud.

Shelbster's picture

Absolutely they do!! When you have an issue or questions with a lot of the big sources on here, you get 1 reply every 24 hours it seems. If your conversation has 3 replies from you & 3 from them you’re lookin an a week to solve a 2 minute issue. Theres many of the source like mentioned that you send a msg & will get a reply usually within a couple hours & the conversation continues until everything is solved right then. I’ve had to learn a lot of patience over here & still not doing so well lol

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Milfpounder's picture

Another layer to your point is that in a case like that, the "source" is usually using the same gear that he's selling. Either sourcing or cooking. And they have a much smaller captive audience to keep happy.

In the case of the mega source, they are just a bunch of bean counters who could give a flying fuck what a bunch of Meatheads are injecting. It's 100% business to them, and at the end of the day whatever happens doesn't matter because they are completely anonymous to all of us.

I'm outta thumbs or id put it right up ur bootyhole

Teeeethreee's picture

Bean counters lmao

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Pandateston's picture

100% … Couldn’t agree more, brother man !

Drexyl's picture
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Janefonda's picture

Lol. Guy reminds me of 90% of eroids members here. Freaking Rock! Interviewer reminds me of DMX older brother or something.

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Milfpounder's picture

Hahaha that's UNC....

I didn't realize UNC was 80% body fat and a big time Mexican wrestling fan

Asa's picture

You sly dog you Lol

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Milfpounder's picture

Do it man. Become a source here. I'd trust you more than whatever shady ass ppl I currently use.

Milfpounder's picture

I'm a crane operator. And if I had access to an unlimited supply of gear, it would be a problem.

True story, I owned a liquor store for a couple years and I can only imagine if that store was full of gear instead of booze hahaha