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+ 50 More bad news: Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH Janoshik Tests

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TLDR: Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH both came back from Janoshik at zero. A further GCMS test of the test cyp revealed it to be MCT Oil and Vitamin E. Osgear was prompt and good to deal with in getting a refund. Also had prior experience with underdosed Ultima HGH last year. All test results and further details below.

  1. Beligas Test Cyp 200 mg/ml; Exp: 11/30, Lot: C942002
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106138-Cypo_1_QJTDWCJZ2TM6
    b. https://janoshik.com/tests/111080-Cypo_1_7XWSTMCB9UNP
  2. Beligas Test Cyp 200 mg/ml; Exp: 11/30, Lot: C942002 (2nd Vial)
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106139-Cypo_2_DASF3EJEIPUG
  3. Ultima HGH: 10 iu/vial; Mfg: 7/25, Exp: 7/30, Batch: S-TP80315
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106141-HGH_Somatropin_191AA_DJ167V6G17VJ

I wanted to add some more info to the conversation on here about the Ultima results people are seeing. In December I ordered Beligas Test Cyp and Beligas HGH from Osgear. When the order arrived I actually received Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH. I complained to Osgear because for the HGH I specifically ordered Beligas because last fall I received an underdosed batch of Ultima HGH (tested at 6.84 iu, labeled 10 iu, see results below). Osgear responded saying that due to supply of Beligas HGH being out of stock the shipping department replaced my Beligas with Ultima HGH. They said the batch I had last fall was removed and the new batch was tested by the manufacturer so I could use it with full confidence. They also said that ultima and beligas are manufactured in the same factory so there is no difference in quality between the two.

Obviously, things changed when I got the results from Janoshik and it is clear that ultima is not testing their end product. Osgear was very responsive to me providing this testing but it was also right around the time things were starting to heat up around the Ultima test raws. I specifically asked for a refund instead of store credit and they provided a full refund for the entire purchase, I believe this came from the manufacturers. They also provided in store credit for my Janoshik testing costs, which I appreciate and makes me more likely to do more testing in the future.

I have seen some posts from them assuring people that ultima test c and test e are the only products affected. I didn’t care for that since I had already sent them my ultima HGH results showing 0 iu. I can understand they don’t want a panic and they have a business to run, but overall I don’t love the experience with Ultima, Beligas, or Osgear. Again, to be fair they did make everything right with no pushback.

Fall 2025 Order

In September of last year I ordered some HGH, Clenbuterol, and Test Cyp, all from Ultima, through Osgear. They all came back underdosed. The test and clen were not too bad but the HGH was way under. Osgear gave me full credit for the HGH and partial credit for the clen and test since they were still usable. At that time I was pleased with that outcome and willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Here are those results:
1. Ultima Test Cyp 250mg/ml; Batch: MTO11551
a. 223.52 mg/ml & 226.53 mg/ml
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81959-UltimaCyp_250_9SV3M9NV75XI
c. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/88198-aas_1_KTDKMNP5PHM3
i. Same vial tested, second sample was blind to Janoshik
2. Ultima HGH 10 iu vials: Batch: S-TP81315
a. 6.84 iu, 90% purity
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81961-UltimaHGH_6WWPJJ7KWZEY
3. Ultima Clenbuterol 40 mcg pills, batch: MTB70778
a. 31.55 mcg
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81960-UltimaClen_JC6321LDPE43

HGH Testing

Also, a note on HGH. It is expensive to test. If you want to do dimer and purity in addition to the iu/mg amount it costs $420 ($20 more if you want the raw data) plus you have to burn a full vial of whatever you’re testing. I think this leads to it being tested less than other products. I suspect that is why I haven’t seen anyone else posting about fake HGH, it just doesn’t get tested that much, and people probably notice the difference less when using it when it is fake.

Janoshik

I have been very pleased with my experience with Janoshik testing. The new website is great and user friendly. I have done some testing where I listed the manufacturer and some blind. Specifically with the Ultima Test Cyp, one sample I listed the manufacturer and batch and I also sent in another blind sample from the same vial and the results were very, very close.

The notes from my fake HGH test said they actually tested that vial twice and I really appreciated that. I also liked that they noted that for the fake testosterone GCMS that they found the oils and vitamin E consistent with other fake products they were seeing. That kind of insight was helpful. They were also the ones who offered the GCMS testing after the test cyp resulted at zero and that was helpful to get to find out what was actually in there. I will not use any products without testing with them first.

Conclusion:

Overall, I will try some other stuff on Osgear, partially or maybe mostly because I have the credit. I am a strong maybe on Beligas but I don’t have any reason to try Ultima again. I had some prior beligas that tested well and I know Buttery had good results from them too. I do have some ultima primo that I just received but had ordered prior to this testing coming back. I’ll be testing that as well but again, I don’t see ordering ultima again.

I have several different products from ZPHC that have all tested well on the results from our friend Buttery. I am going to order a few more things from them and test those and will post the results but I am more optimistic about that brand and that’s the direction I’m headed.

Finally, I haven't posted before, just been watching, reading, and learning for the most part. 'm relatively new to all of this. I just started last year but since I have all these results I wanted to share to help out. I have never done a promo with any brand and the only credit I've gotten was due to refunds for poor products.

Good luck, stay safe, and test your stuff.

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Drexyl's picture

Click on your profile, then click submit. Go from there.

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TheIcon's picture

Honestly this pushes me more and more towards cooking my own. Assuming you can find a good source of raws. Got a few recipes Im itching to try out.

press1's picture

It can get Tricky though if it contains too many peanuts - then it no longer 'injects smooth as butter' .....

BigDdaddy's picture

Especially if it's crunchy PB.....like the stuff you get from Ultimas "random supplier"!

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Pandateston's picture

Or just stick with a smaller, reputable domestic UGL. Less hype, less noise. Most of them either provide real HPLC or at least have consistent, honest reviews … especially since they’re not running flashy promos or hiding behind big brand names.

A lot of the time they give more direct attention to customers too. Lower volume usually means better control over brewing, raw sourcing, and overall quality management. Whether they’re brewing in-house or reselling, that tighter operation can actually work in your favor.

Just my opinion … sometimes smaller and steady beats big and loud.

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Shelbster's picture

Absolutely they do!! When you have an issue or questions with a lot of the big sources on here, you get 1 reply every 24 hours it seems. If your conversation has 3 replies from you & 3 from them you’re lookin an a week to solve a 2 minute issue. Theres many of the source like mentioned that you send a msg & will get a reply usually within a couple hours & the conversation continues until everything is solved right then. I’ve had to learn a lot of patience over here & still not doing so well lol

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Milfpounder's picture

Another layer to your point is that in a case like that, the "source" is usually using the same gear that he's selling. Either sourcing or cooking. And they have a much smaller captive audience to keep happy.

In the case of the mega source, they are just a bunch of bean counters who could give a flying fuck what a bunch of Meatheads are injecting. It's 100% business to them, and at the end of the day whatever happens doesn't matter because they are completely anonymous to all of us.

I'm outta thumbs or id put it right up ur bootyhole

Teeeethreee's picture

Bean counters lmao

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Pandateston's picture

100% … Couldn’t agree more, brother man !

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Drexyl's picture
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Janefonda's picture

Lol. Guy reminds me of 90% of eroids members here. Freaking Rock! Interviewer reminds me of DMX older brother or something.

Milfpounder's picture

Hahaha that's UNC....

I didn't realize UNC was 80% body fat and a big time Mexican wrestling fan

Jrihard89's picture

UNC doesn’t cook while making stuff he just beats off. It’s like his timer to know
How long his stuff’s been brewing

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Jrihard89's picture

I love stories about history like the year 1776! Or stories about Gods and TITANS.

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Asa's picture

You sly dog you Lol

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Milfpounder's picture

Do it man. Become a source here. I'd trust you more than whatever shady ass ppl I currently use.

Milfpounder's picture

I'm a crane operator. And if I had access to an unlimited supply of gear, it would be a problem.

True story, I owned a liquor store for a couple years and I can only imagine if that store was full of gear instead of booze hahaha

Petecastiglione's picture

Can someone email Trump and ask him to legalize gear? Only fair being weed is

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Milfpounder's picture

If alcohol is legal then gear should be too.

I'll ask em next time we're golfing

Osgear's picture

Hello,

We've asked the testing report from the factory and it seems that the HGH - batch S-TP81315 is dosed correctly:

https://i.ibb.co/0pC1b7hc/2-55-PM.png

All the products were sent to Janoshik for testing and the results will be available in the coming weeks for all Ultima products, so the situation will be clarified.

Thank you.

N.Carraway's picture

So, I find this kind of interesting. The batch number for this HGH when you click on the link is S-TP80315. This is the same batch number for the HGH I received from Ultima that tested at 0. Obviously those tests are in conflict. I can come up with 3 scenarios as to why this would be, and none of them are good for Ultima.

  1. There is variability in quality/dosing within individual batches.
  2. The test provided by Ultima is fake.
  3. Ultima provided a vial to the testing company that is from another batch.

I guess I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't directly lie about this and fake a test or test another vial. But if there is variability within batches then you can't really rely on other people's test results, even if they have the same batch. Or you couldn't even rely on your own testing results becuase you wouldn't know if the vial you tested would be the same as the next vial in your supply you were going to use.

I'm not terribly inclined to believe Ultima at this point. I'm not familiar with wherever this testing was done through and I guess I'd like to see what results from Janoshik came back like, but even then you wouldn't know for sure if it was the same batch because Ultima doesn't print batch numbers on the actual vials.

What I'd be really interested to see is others from this community testing their HGH from this same batch. I think I would put more faith in that than testing from Ultima at this point.

I suppose I could test more vials from the batch that I already tested (I have quite a lot of it) but it's pretty expensive and I'm not sure what I would gain from that. If another vial from the same batch came back at 10 iu, would I really be any better off? I wouldn't know which vials in my supply were legit and which were fake so I still wouldn't want to use them.

Interested to see what other people think about this.

Milfpounder's picture

The point of eroids is a "user review" site. Where sources are reviewed by the people that use them. -- Obviously you're here, and eroids obviously achieved its intended goal here.

Someone sent out a sample to jano, and posted it (originally on reddit, but the same happens here) and now the entire gear world is in an uproar about ulitma/beligas/Nakon.

What you are suggesting has been suggested quite a bit. It's just never takes off, and eventually someone would get busted being paid by a source to skew results, thereby defeating the purpose.

The best thing you could do if you were so inclined, is to send off samples of your own gear and post the test results here. And everyone will clap and cheer for you and offer to suck you off. There's members here who go well above and beyond and spend their own money to do just that. @randomdude @Buttery. And @Petecastiglione personally sucks them off in appreciation.

Petecastiglione's picture

I do it for the love of the game

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Milfpounder's picture

You spelled cum wrong.

randomdude's picture

Can confirm. He also swallows.

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Teeeethreee's picture

Can I get uh HhhhhhhhYyeeeeaaahhhh

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Milfpounder's picture

Slutty ass slut

TheIcon's picture

Makes me wonder about my Ultima Anavar now... hmmmmm skittles

Laze's picture

What’s your batch number I have boxes of 50mg by 50 pills.

Jockstrap's picture

check your dates

It's awesome the community pulls together to help one another. But check your dates on your gear too. Ugl typically the dates lot don't mean crap....but it can be useful with bigger labs at times. The bad lots dates...reference to start with....

Fierro.'s picture

Damn.. this is so fuked
Imagine running a full cycle stack and finding out your testosterone base is fake while everything else is active.
You shut down your natural production with nothing stable replacing it. That’s not a small issue, that’s complete hormonal imbalance

HapaBoy83's picture

What a ride lol. Receiving funky Ultima stoppers, just started Beligas Test 300 and awaiting Ultima HGH smh. To top it off went Pharmacom route this time and stuck awaiting clearance for last 2 weeks.

Wildling's picture

Idk why anyone would buy these oils now.

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Petecastiglione's picture

Doubt anyone will

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Wildling's picture

At last my orals are solid… so far.

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Milfpounder's picture

Why bother... But if the sale was good enough... I mean I'd be tempted... Just saying @Osgear.

Shelbster's picture

Unfortunate this couldn’t have happened 2 days ago. Just ordered 4 Beligas dhb yesterday, Grrrr

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Milfpounder's picture

Well if the situation is as it is being explained, it's related to a bad batch of test raws. So maybe ur still gtg

I'm no chemist, but I would think the raws for dhb are different. @UncleYoked has a laboratory Is this the case?

UncleYoked's picture

I should probably be more aware of these things, but I'm not since I usually don't care. Are they related companies or resellers from the same manufacturer?

PimpdaddyJ's picture

Many are spin off names of the same actual brand. What will happen next is Ultima will likely go away, but in reality “ultima” will just change its name and packaging to something else and be run by the same company. That way they clear out the now tainted name. But it will still be the same product in reality and the circle of deception continues

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

They all have the exact same orals. And the same type of packaging for the orals. I'm not positive so don't quote me they seem to be under the same umbrella. The orals have to be made in the same place for all 3. Beside that idk

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UncleYoked's picture

Thought this might interest you since we were discussing it on the other page. @BigDdaddy @Bebe1970
Explains some of the holes.

BigDdaddy's picture

I appreciate the heads up bro. It appears to me that they are investing in finished oils. Ultima, Nakon and Beligas are all spinoffs of Ultima it would seem so I'd be weary of those names. At this point there is no reason to take the chance. There are so many other valid options such as yourself to risk flushing your money and possibly health and hard work/sweat down the drain. I feel strongly that anyone with any mental capacity would agree. The very fact they invest in finished product from what they are claiming is a one time investment in a company they have no reputation with and not testing a portion of that before sending it out is unacceptable. That is if you believe that story. I'm still where I was that they didn't want to interrupt distribution during the shortage and passed one off on us knowing they'd have to replace some, but hoping it wouldn't be catastrophe. Either way....it was! I would strongly advice anyone to avoid these brands at this point for your own health and safety!

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UncleYoked's picture

ah, okay. There's a lot of companies out there that offer white labeling and even drop shipping. We've been offered a few time for mast and primo but that's just not how we roll. This leads me to believe they are all victims of the same manufacturer.