posted Thu, 02/19/2026 - 06:40
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Lab results, this is six weeks off cycle, cruising with 25 mg test daily injections with 3 IU of HGH. Obviously, there's some iron deficiency here, in context I had lost 70 pounds of fat the last year, and likely had some nutritional deficiency, working on replacing that now.
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Daily injects is garbage. Your total is a cycle....garbage. you want excuses.....
Since that time I've switched to test undecanoate 150 mg weekly. Gives the same stability as daily injections.
Not sure what you are trying to say?
Do you go to a doctor regularly? Are you anemic? What’s your general diet like?
Just see the doctor when he makes me for my testosterone. Based on the These labs, and ones I've had previously, I have iron deficiency, anemia, likely caused by my 1 year use of tirzepitide. With that, TRT, and a little var, twice a day training and watching my diet, I lost 70 pounds of fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle. I'm pretty sure I got the iron deficiency from nutritional deficit during that time.
Anemia from triz? Or were you barely eating and lack of nutrients?
Probably nutritional deficiency from not eating enough. I didn't eat enough because I was on Triz.
What was your diet like?
For a long time, I would just be able to get a few bites of food and then I would be full, I try to get a lot of meat, but just couldn't eat it, so drank a lot of protein shakes to hit my protein goals. I didn't really get that piece until about 8 to 9 months in. Eating a lot of Greek yogurt, scoop of protein in there with blueberries, walnuts, and honey. Eggs, chicken, vegetables, rice, and whole wheat bread, that's the majority of my diet. When I was getting ready for ibjjf world master I was really dialed in, tracked all my macros, and had ChatGPT running a diet plan, but when I'm not focusing on a competition, I mostly focus on protein and calories.
You need red meat. Fuck chicken. Also supplement freeze dried beef liver.
Chicken is extremely important on bodybuilding diet. Like wtf you don't research whey vs beef vs chicken and timing of foods???
Him relying on drinks is bullshit yes...but everything has time of digestion
Chicken digest faster. It has less calories due to less fat. He’s not bodybuilding in a traditional sense. Like many of us on here, he is trying to maintain his peak for athletic activities. I highly doubt he wants to pass out in the middle of a meet.
For his symptoms, he needs red meat which is why I said fuck chicken. If he is actually anemic , one serving of beef won’t cut it without iron supplementation, which red meat is high on. Check the context of the conversation next time.
Agreed, That was the beginning of my fitness journey, after not training for 14 years I was fat and just needed to lose weight. The trizepitide and trt was life-changing for me. Now I just eat Whole Foods the whole day, mostly chicken and rice and vegetables,but get one serving of beef every day
What was your ALT & AST this time? I'm curious to see both entire panels from three months ago & now. Also your estro is slightly high... either you are still heavy (higher bf) or your aromatization theory is off. Me personally, you should switch to prop. It will be better on you if this is the route you want to go. Don't cheap out if you want to do it right...
Ast and ALT are fine, right about the estrogen, but I wouldn't call prop " the right way to do it". There is no one Answer here. perhaps it gives a better onset when you begin, but with long-term use any benefit is negligible. If someone was coming on and off of testosterone, I think prop would have the benefits of acting faster, and clearing your system quicker, but I'm gonna be on test the rest of my life.
Post both full panels.
If you are pinning everyday, it doesn’t matter. Prop will always be a drier compound.
I can in the future, but I don't see an edit button to add any photos here.
I've heard that it's dryer before, which would make sense for me in my competition prep, but do you know why that's the case? I don't get that unless you're saying that there's less aromatization to estrogen, which would definitely be the case if you were pinning less frequently
Longer esters will aromatize more no matter the frequency of dosing. If you want to really dope up for comp, run NPP. That and deca has been my bread and butter in grappling. You’ll burn calories like crazy too.
Thanks bro, going to give it a try.
No problem!
So question, why dont you inject a dose of Test C one day and the rest of the days Test P if you are doing daily injections?
Imo I don't see any benefit to prop. Due to the short half life, it doesn't accumulate in your system, and would require a higher dose, and purchase of more vials for the same response. Also, I get a lot more PIP with it. If you're not on any test at all, it might be reasonable to run it at the beginning of a cycle to start start things off along with the longer ester.
You actually get slightly more testosterone from prop because of the lighter ester weight.
I respect your reasoning if it causes you PIP but when you say higher dose you mean more volume right? So I assume your Test C is 200mg or 250mg and Test P is 100mg. Which I get if costs is an issue and what not but for me Test P is the best, it hits harder just like no ester Test hits even harder than that and using a longer Ester once a week with it, helps keep the levels stable.
Anyway I just wanted to see your reasoning is all.
The volume and cost is one part, but, 25 mg of test c, versus 25 mg of test prop are not equal. Because of the longer Esther, even after one week you still have a good portion of test left in your system, it accumulates until you reach a steady state, you never get that accumulation of testosterone in your system with prop, and would require a higher milligram dose to achieve the same serum levels. I do like test no Ester on days I want to hit it hard, has me walking around the gym feeling like Jason Bourne lol.
Yeah, 25mg is 25mg. Technically with test p’s smaller ester you actually get a slightly higher proportion of actual testosterone per mg vs test c.
@Aggieguy is 100% correct with that.
Serum “level” doesn’t change because of ester but how stable it is and duration of stable does. Semantics sure, but when it comes to our health and how what we put in our bodies responses, exactness is very important.
25mg of Test C is the same as 25mg of Test P. They are both 25mg of Testosterone, the difference is the Ester which you know. The volume is different for sure because it's either 100mg a ml or 250 mg a ml exc, but the Ester just determines how long it stays in your body. So the Test C 25mg is released slowly over the week but the Test P 25mg is released with in a day or two which causes a spike in Test quicker which is why others like myself feel it better and you can keep levels stable by doing daily injections with it. The downside is that 25mg of Test is gone after 2 days.
Test C will save you money and less volume I was just curious because for me if I am poking myself everyday I would do a longer ester first day of week then Test P just because I like the kick it has. If you are just doing TRT then a long ester makes more sense.
He wants to be frugal is all he should have said. Test P is a different animal for most everyone whe it comes to gains. Don’t try to understand the logic other than that.
Jrihard89This….. even when balancing eater weight out and the same dose between E and prop.. prop wins. Pinning it ED is just magical. I feel phenomenal
Yes, I agree that is all he should have said.
I 100% get wanting to be frugal as he mentioned, but then he starts talking about serum concentrate and serum levels requiring a higher dose. That is just not correct. There has been a lot of bro-science lately and that doesn’t help anyone.
Solid numbers for 175mg, thanks for sharing
"25 mg test daily injections"? Test C? Why daily injections? No way I could be that much of pin cushion, you are a stronger man than I
Daily injections with a half inch insulin syringe are definitely the way to go. When injecting a larger amount once or twice weekly, a greater quantity of the testosterone will aromatize estrogen, and necessitate AI. With daily injections, your hormone levels are consistently stable.
This does not seem to be the case for me. I do 3 injections of 2ml a week. I get my bloods done regularly and all seems well. Pretty sure everyone is a little different. Fuck everyone from IG and FB that wants to tell you exactly what the oil is going to do to you and offer to coach you. Get bloods and figure it out. Fuck them homos from ig and fb. FUCK them!
From 2 mL three times weekly, would mean you're using between 1200mg-1500mg weekly depending on the concentration of your test. Thats a lot more than I would likely be able to use. For sure everyone has differing amounts of muscle and fat, and will aromatize different rates. However, daily injections would provide the most stable hormone level levels, and likely improve the side effect profile. If you're having great results with mineral side effects where you're at, go for it.
Zero sides and great bloods. Well actually I just got a psa and lipids pulled today so I will report back on that. I don't get any acne and mild oily skin. I am taking .75 of 300 test, .75 of 200 mast and .50 of tren e. I will 86 the tren in 3 weeks. I do get night sweats but sleep well. bp is down etc. I should have my bloods back in a week but my last pull showed I wasn't dying.
Nice, never used tren before, but about to start low-dose, to help preserve my muscle mass during my weight cut. Currently walking around at 207 pounds, my goal is to hit 180 for competition. Just worried about the cardio.
As someone who also rolls… don’t use tren for that. Get some Retatrutide and set some macro goals. It isn’t hard to cut and maintain strength… it just takes discipline.
"I reduced my daily injections to 20 mg".. that's only 140mg of test C weekly, that's less than medical prescribed TRT dosage. You will get very very minimal sides, if any at all at 140mg of Test weekly... You will get worse side effects eating too much salt in a single meal than from the actual test, definitely not worth pinning yourself daily.... but to each his own.
Didn’t know table salt was more likely to cause gyno then test, thanks for the heads up.
Super helpful information, no bro-science.
Gyno at 140 mg of test C weekly? Damn, you must have a body fat % of 30 plus.
Wow, what a reply. Same genius I would expect from someone say salt has more sides then test.
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It’s called being facetious.… It obviously wasn’t supposed to be taken literally genius
There is no set TRT dose, 200 mg weekly is near the upper limit of what is prescribed, but people regularly get less. The dose is titrated or tapered based on patient need and response. You would have a hard time finding a provider who would continue the dose when your test levels are 1200 without tapering down. My goals are likely different than most people here, not a bodybuilder, I'm a Brazilian jiu-jitsu athlete and also have to maintain my weight class. Right now, I'm just adjusting to find a dose that I would be happy with taking long-term, and will increase as needed prior to competitions, then go back to my TRT dose.
I'm not knocking your dose at all, 140mg is good, my argument of pinning daily to stop the "side effects" is what Im questioning
Hmmm, I take 140mg of TRT
My latest bloodwork had my total test at 1,500+ and my free test at 458.
Daily pinning is the best thing. Less aromatization meaning less side effects, in addition to a more stable serum level.
Try it. I’ve run bloods on daily, 2x, 3x, and 4x a week injections. My E2 level on the same dose is half on ED injections vs 2x a week. 4x a week is about the same as ED, so I’ve gone to MWFSu dosing when using longer esters. Always ED if a prop is involved
That is very interesting. When you do a blood test, should the test be done before or after your daily injection? Fuck it. I'm going to try daily injections. I've done sub q for years, so it's not bad. I'm going to try running a higher dose. Right now I run 75mg a week split on M/W. 75mg is what it takes for me not to need an AI. I aromatize easily.
I always get bloodwork on the day of my next pin but before I actually pin. I usually get up around 4:45, pin, and do cardio. blood test day I’ll make an appointment for 7:30 and usually get to pin by 8. So only about a 3 hour gap
Cool. Thank you.