+ 1 Bad PIP - need for concern
Hey all,
Looking for some advice here, a currently on the ultimate mass stack which is 300 test e / 200 deca and I am doing .5ml Monday Wednesday Friday. So first shot was in my right glute some pip not bad Wednesday did my right quad Friday went back tk right glute should not did my left however fast forward Sunday night it is def sore nothing crazy but Monday was prob a 7/10 and has def lessens since, however I def have a small knot at then injection shot and its very sore to the touch. I have some Disney because I neve get PIP for this long usually 2 days then it’s gone I’m on day 5 (Wednesday night) and still sore
Is a swelling/knot enough to cause concern for infection or would there be other symptoms.
Is there a chance it was from pinning the same muscle twice in one week (Monday / Friday) any feedback is greatly appreciate as I am fairly nervous.
Ps the ultima mass stack is known to have some bad PIP if it matters at all .
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It would be hot to the touch, red, and not go down. The you need to go tell doc you got a spider bite and get some antibiotics. But probably not infected (although could be I’m not gonna say it def isn’t) but this is why I stay the fuck away from high concentration blends
Ranger3252A 7/10 is like breaking your ankle in 4 places dude. No way PIP is a 7/10. You’re just a pussy TBH
Ur cooked bro.
lol…thanks appreciate the reassurance ROFL
Thanks everyone! So I am going to make some adjustments, I will go to .75ml Monday and Thursdays giving me more time in between injection sites…I’ll be honest my quads has least pip then anywhere else and that’s usually my worst spot. I have heated the oil but I will just change my schedule to two days a week to buy more time between shots and injection sites.
Thank you all!
I would pin .21-.22 daily. Less likely to have side effects and the injection volume is low.
You would in .2ml a day? Monday - Friday? Seems like alot of pinning
, no?
I pin every single day > Monday through Sunday.
.10ml for cruise and .3-.4ml for blast. Never had an issue.
I do shallow IM 28g 1/2inch pins or sometime SubQ 31g 5/16inch
No e2 side effects, no PIP issues, no site issues.
Dude I have some about 3 more bottles to be exact I have even cut this stuff with sterile mct oil. The shit has serious pip. Don’t care what you do. Ive pined less, changed sites, diluted it etc… it comes with a disclaimer that it has significant Pip.
Did you run this for a cycle or you had to stop? Wondering how are your results.
The stuff works it’s just painful as hell
I ran it until I got order some regular deca 250 lol
That so funny my next question is I have ultimate cyp and deca coming, is it different if I mix them both into the same syringe and then shoot it or keep them separated?
And why is it different if you mix them as separate compounds rather then the mix would you know?
I mean I am 1.5 weeks in I feel like I’m starting to see and feel results would hate to stop it but sheesh not for the weak lol
I guess the mix has something that breaks down and dissolves the high concentration. I tried mixing everything in it. Even sterile mct oil. I tried mixing deca 250 with the 500mix. The shit hurts. Lol
@Bohdi ‘s information is spot on. You really didn't give enough time between pins. I don’t have any experience with the mass blend but sounds like it’s got some pip naturally.
I prefer to mix my own blends in a separate vial. It lets me control my desired dosing. I’ll mix a week at a time and can adjust dosing per week if needed.
Alternate your injection sites, practice good clean protocol, alcohol wipes, hand washing, change the needle tips you use to draw oil and use a new one to inject. I also warm my oil a bit so it goes in smoother. Good luck!
Ok thanks below there is definitely no redness, however now that you mention it I was very sick on. Monday, li thought I just caught the flu, sore throat.c body aches never checked my temperature but. Unit.
Do i need to see a doctor?
Is it coming from bad gear it just a pad pin site?
Thank you
Everything you described not necessarily says infection at all but what 99% of us have experienced and veterans probably 100s of times. Ive had knots from 300mg last 2 weeks. If you keep pinning without diluting it then count on every shor. If it was a sanitized injection and deep into the muscle not into fat then your fine. Your high fever will tell you infection(your body will flood with white blood cells). Take 600mg motrin 500mg Tylenol and move on.
Is it hot to the touch, getting progressively red, or spreading? Those are the main infection red flags. A small knot with lingering soreness by itself, especially with known PIP gear, isn’t unusual.
Pinning the same muscle twice in a week can absolutely cause this. A sterile abscess comes to mind, and that’s what this sounds like. Most people do best giving a site 6-8 days before reusing it, longer if volume is higher or solvents are harsher. Ultima Mass can be a rough ride even with proper rotation, so extended soreness isn’t surprising.
One thing that helps a lot is tracking injection sites. A simple notebook or notes app makes it easy to avoid hitting the same muscle too soon if you can’t remember where you last pinned.
If pain is steadily improving and there’s no heat, fever, or rapidly increasing redness, it’s usually just irritated tissue/sterile abscess. If it gets hotter, more swollen, or worse instead of better, then it’s time to take it seriously. If it’s just a lump and some pain, chalk it up to a learning experience and ride it out.