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So I've been on cycle for a couple months, including test and oxandrolone. I'm also in recovery and get take home Morphine every two weeks. Ive been off heroin for about four years. The last test came back positive for Street heroin. I can only think that this is from ugl pressed tabs. Ive not taken anything else. Anyone with any kind of insight into this. My doc is pretty relaxed and just asked if I had used anything but I guess it pisses me off because I know I haven't. Cheers

bigrick2017's picture

If it was from ugl tabs it would have tested pos for fentanol which comes up different on drug screens

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irongame427's picture

Agreed, that seems way more likely. not diacetylmorphine. I don’t think heroin is really even made in china, since it’s not a synthetic drug that they can cook up in a lab. And that’s where all the raws are made. H is still made mostly in asia.

False positive is most likely answer since it’s a simple rapid saliva test.

Pete J W's picture

So now I'd like to know if Im allowed to mention the lab / source? Prob no right? Even if it did come back with a funky result?

irongame427's picture

Pm me the name. I sent you a FR,

20ramcummins's picture

You would find them under source talk and post there i believe.

Pumped_'s picture

Get a real lab test. If the doctor or whatever asshole is telling you that any test can tell you if it is "street heroin" or "opiates" is a straight up quack and find another doctor. I smell bullshit. Something is off on this story. Either morphine, codeine or opiates or fentanyl.

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Pete J W's picture

Off on this story? Opiates is a general term for ... opiates, heroin, Morphin, codeine etc. It's a substitution clinic. I'm talking specifically about morphine sulphate which I get prescribed as heroin substitution. Of course a test can tell the difference between pharmacy morphine sulphate and gear bought off the street.

bigrick2017's picture

Im on methadone and I get tested regularly and im on gear ive never popped for any other opioid

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Pumped_'s picture

Then there is no issue. You take morphine and tested positive for morphine is what you're saying then? Theres your answer. Badda bing badda bang but dont start fear mongering that meta is cutting their shit with street heroin.

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Jockstrap's picture

Probably the metabolites from gear somehow tossed the testing off. Picked up morphine and roids.

Pumped_'s picture

Possible but would make him the unluckiest guy or lucky if he played the lottery with those odds. I was on weekly urine lab tests for 5 years injecting steroids and only thing off was my creatinine levels which they was stupid enough to believe it was from my "creatine" lol. More likely the metabolites from his daily morphine use threw off the test for opiates.

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Drexyl's picture

100%

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

I'm curious the lab. If it's some small local lab. Maybe the dude sells dope song with gear and just got a smidge mixed in on accident.

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Pete J W's picture

I'm not allowed to say the lab far as I gather? Otherwise I will gladly

Pumped_'s picture

Definitely hanging with the old crowd which is old behaviors which get you in this predicament if it really is a positive for opiates. But it would be second tested or lab tested before any penal action is taken

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Pete J W's picture

Who's hanging with the wrong crowd? Do we know each other? Nothing's getting second tested. This isn't police file, it's a sub clinic in Europe. Ive been straight for a long time, I've got bigger things to worry about like my kids and wife.

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

There should Def be a way for them to send to lab for more stringent testing. Was this a cup with dip sticks on the side?
They tend to be very unreliable.

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Pumped_'s picture

If you read what i wrote below there is nothing to worry about then but until you have proof that meta gave you heroin lets not even have a post about it or insinuate it. I just saw the conversation take a wrong turn from being a false positive to accusing a source that 1000s have used and never tested for heroin

I will be sure to plaster it all over the place

Yes a source on here that has recently crashed and burned

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Pete J W's picture

Who's meta? Source? Na I'm not throwing out any names. Who knows mate. Could just be a shitty test. Its all good

Pumped_'s picture

Just a figure of speech

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Pete J W's picture

Ah for real, na mate thanks for all the input. Appreciate it. I'll just wait and see what happens. I'm just tired of this shit I guess, the clinics, tests, etc coming off the Morphin slowly at the moment. Takes a bit of time

Big Paul's picture

Only time I heard of people testing positive for opiates is off poppy seeds.

If you Google it, it says you can test positive.

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Pumped_'s picture

Poppy seeds would come up as morphine or codeine not opiates. And if he ate a whole poppy seed loaf of bread. Been on probation colors from 18-35yrs old basically. If i was up to no good i would get "fake positives" and if i was doing the right thing i got negative every single time.

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TnTerror88's picture

This is like my worst fear. I get tested a lot at work.

Milfpounder's picture

Same here. That would be a career ender for me

irongame427's picture

Did they do a confirmation on the positive test? Could very well be a false positive and you’re worrying for no reason. Wouldn’t make sense for labs to be mixing opioids with PEDs. The drugs and the clientele buying them are such polar opposites.

Pete J W's picture

No that's what I figured but it's the only tabs I've taken, that and the usual supps. The lab in question has recently crashed and burned after some really shitty test results came back. I mean it is what it is, maybe a false positive test, it happens.

Pete J W's picture

Na mate not really worried, I mean they just test to try keep us on the straight. I guess it just upsets me that it's positive at all. After 30 years of messing things up it's a good feeling to be straight and going about things the right way. A positive test regardless of whether it's true or not is somewhat upsetting.

Waltdisneysbum's picture

I mean it's not impossible, you're right the only way would be if they're pressing anything with heroin, morphine, or codeine in the same pill press...

If your tablets are pressed by your source I guess that's a question for them, if they're a source on here I'd hope it's not the case, but if they've been pressed in China and shipped to them to sell it wouldn't surprise me

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Waltdisneysbum's picture

What test did you have though? Because if it's just a opiate screening test then your take home morphine could come back as a positive result? But if it was a GC-MS or LC-MS/MS test then that specifically will show heroin

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Pete J W's picture

Anyway I was straight up with my doc and asked if he could test one of them. I'd be very interested to see. If he does and it comes back a positive I will be sure to plaster it all over the place

Drexyl's picture

I know it’s not a lab test, and you’re obviously not looking for steroid legitimacy, but the kits I’ve used at work never failed and I’d assume these to be reliable. They may be available at your local pharmacy or even for free at an outreach center.

Pete J W's picture

I could prob just crush one up and smudge it on that thing right..

Drexyl's picture

Probably into a fine powder, read the instructions there’s usually an ampule that you break. If there’s a narcotic in there it’ll show.

Pumped_'s picture

Those look like the field ones that cops have in their trunks? Lol

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Imagedynamiks's picture

The LE kits are “nark” kits. They look similar, but are different. Only usually tests for one drug or so, so the Amazon kit is different in that regard.

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Drexyl's picture

Very very similar.

Pete J W's picture

Morphin shows up regardless as I'm taking 800mg a day. This i get on script so they're expecting to find it. Street heroin is cut up. It's the additional BS that it gets cut with that shows up. The first positive Test I've had in four years. I know I've taken nothing but feel guilty anyway. Yes a source on here that has recently crashed and burned

BFG's picture

It's the additional BS that it gets cut with that shows up.

"Additional bs" doesn't randomly pop up on drug tests. They need to specifically look for things they're interested in.

Pete J W's picture

Sorry I should have written that more clearly, Street gear you'll find papaverine, noscapine, and acetylcodeine and codein metabolites. So when you're tested and these show up it ain't gonna be from your normal morphine sub meds.

Pete J W's picture

I'm talking by products of Street heroin synthesis here. There are particular markers that you'll always find in street gear.

irongame427's picture

What country are you in to have a script for 800mg of morphine a day? That is a massive amount of morphine.

Pete J W's picture

It's called substitol. The clinic I go to offers you government made heroin or,if you want to actually stop, morphine or methadone. I started on 1500mg a day. I live in Berlin. Am not from here though

irongame427's picture

That’s cool man. Getting pharm grade morphine is obviously much healthier than gambling with street drugs and all the problems that go along with having to get money to get high everyday.

I would assume your clinic is just doing rapid drug tests? Not sending them out to the lab. Which are not super accurate. False positives are not uncommon but If sent out to a lab for confirmation they’ll come back correct. So it’s totally possible this was just a false positive.

Pete J W's picture

That's what I'm thinking, yes they are basic saliva tests. Checks and balances. It's a great approach imo. Ppl are going to use regardless. So why not government made gear in a safe environment.

Waltdisneysbum's picture

Ahh okay likely a GC-MS or LC-MS/MS then, unfortunately that's likely the case then.. Probably a good idea to pick up some new oxandrolone before your next test, will be reassuring when the next test comes back negative so you know yourself that you've done no wrong.

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Pete J W's picture

It's strange, the guilt associated with years of hard drug use never leaves, even when you're clean and doing things right. I think most importantly I know that I've done no right, I'm right fucked off though this happened at all. Tested today again and asked them to tell me if it's negative. Dropped the Anavar completely.

Pumped_'s picture

A secondary test should always be run and usually is after a preliminary positive. If you really didnt relapse you can feel safe. Secondary test they can tell if it was just a gontact because levels will be determined. No worrys if you are doing the right thing

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Pete J W's picture

Mate I must apologise. I didn't mean to come over as a dick or anything, I think I might just have managed that anyway. Just a bit of a fkt up day

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