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+ 12 Meta Pharma Sust 250 Bloods

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Most recent total and free test results from my current cycle. Running 100 mg/day of meta sust 250. I hadn’t planned on running test this high but I’m also taking 300 mg EQ which had my e2 in the single digits at 500 mg. It is now in the low 30s which is tolerable but still lower than I usually like on blast.
Anyway, really happy with these numbers, I’m not the best responder to test in terms of blood serum levels.

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Cptkillanewb's picture

Are you taking 300mg a week of eq or 500mg?

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PrimoPantani's picture

300 mg EQ. I should have worded that better.

Cptkillanewb's picture

Cool. Thanks for the clarification.

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Finnatobbuff81's picture

Wow. I thought I was going to be super high with running 1CC of sust EOD. Damn that's 1.25g every 5 days. Those numbers say it's good stuff.

Triggerman83's picture

thanks for sharing man!!!

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PrimoPantani's picture

My pleasure bud, just trying to do my part

Asa's picture

Fantastic!

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PrimoPantani's picture

Thanks bro

Wildling's picture

I think their test is slightly over. I was taking 125mg of the test 300 and was pulling bloods around 1800 lol.

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PrimoPantani's picture

I’d love to send out some of the meta stuff to jano, I basically have the whole line of oils at this point lol.

Jockstrap's picture

Boom! Good sust is fun

PrimoPantani's picture

This is my first time running it but it might be my favorite test now. I have zero sides, barely feel like I’m on cycle except for the gains.

Mac12769's picture

Solid numbers, thanks for posting labs.

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PrimoPantani's picture

No problem. I hadn’t seen any for the sust 250 so I figured it was my duty, especially since I was getting them checked anyway.

bigred250's picture

Rock solid scores for 700 test!

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PrimoPantani's picture

Thanks, my total test isn’t always so great but I was able to get shbg back in range on my last cruise which I think helped that and has been keeping my blood levels more stable.

cruznet's picture

Did you try anything in particular to raise your shbg while on cruise ?

PrimoPantani's picture

I heard from a few sources that keeping test lowish with ED microdosing would bring it back up fairly quickly. I did 20-25mg test c daily for 3 months and it went from like 5 to 25 in that time. I also started gh during the same period to try to hold onto some size with the lower test.

cruznet's picture

Appreciate the info. I pin daily whether on blast or cruise. Noticed if I run masteron around 400mg weekly I crash my shbg. If I run test and primo it stays in the 20’s. Overtime shbg regulates back to normal when I’m on trt dose but wasn’t sure if there was another way to improve recovery time.

PrimoPantani's picture

Yeah I’m a full convert to ED pins, they treat me better all around. There are a few videos with some more esoteric methods for increasing shbg. Vigorous Steve recommends dhea and pregnenolone and his video on shbg is really informative if you haven’t seen it. It seems like the most surefire way is just run trt test for a while though so I didn’t mess with any of that.

Pandateston's picture

Thanks for sharing bloodwork Primo. Do you dropped EQ from 500 to 300 in order to keep more stable e2? Did I get it wrong, I’m sorry…
Btw It's not horrible, but I personally like to keep it at a 20:1 ratio, but we don't live in Disney. So what I usually do regardless of the kind of drugs I'm running is slowly controlling it with bloodwork and with what I feel. Many times the markers in the exams are ok, but my perception indicates something wrong. Do you think that sometimes taking TNE during the week (like 3 - 4 times )could be bringing some benefit to bloodwork markers, due to its high and quick conversion into DHT and E2? - are you feeling this any beneficial besides the mood and drive?

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PrimoPantani's picture

Sorry if the initial post wasn’t clear. I started at 500 test 300 eq and have not changed eq at all, just increased test to 700 which has gotten rid of most of my low e2 symptoms. I just started running tne pre-workout 2-3 times a week last week which honestly has me feeling pretty much perfect. I usually like e2 around 50 or 60 when I am blasting for joint health and libido but I usually get severe mental sides from low e2, just kinda lose motivation for stuff but in a very minor way that doesn’t actually keep me from doing it.

Pandateston's picture

It’s all good, I got you !. I think you made a smart move, increasing test, would be the most interesting thing to do, but I'm convinced that these 3x weekly TNE* helped with your metal and mood boost mainly due to increasing your e2 quickly. Yes, man, crushed estradiol is horrible, I personally think it's worse than high e2. In my case, it affects my mood, libido, and even my cognitive part too much. It sucks. Are you thinking of any strategy to try to increase E2 or double it and keep yourself within your ideal range? Or are you going to stay like this until the end of the blast? I mean, if it's sustainable, why change it?

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PrimoPantani's picture

I’m kinda a “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” kinda guy so I won’t change anything up unless I really feel I need to. My only complaint currently is that I’m not quite as horny as I could be but my libido is basically the same as when I’m off cycle so that’s not even really an issue lol.

Pandateston's picture

Couldn’t agree more brother !

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