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Just received blood work results, currently running PA Test C and Primo. Test C 250mg / Primo 70mg a week with ED injection. Bloodwork was ran 7 weeks into adding in the primo as an experimental AI. Adding small dose of primo made the following changes
Total Testosterone 1378 -> 1581
SHBG 26 -> 18
Estradiol 63 -> 55
Total Cholesterol 173 -> 181
HDL 54 -> 54
LDL 100 -> 111
Did not notice any additional hair loss or hair growth on the body. I also didnt experience any PIP. Plan on increasing dosages to Test 350 / Primo 200 a week with ED injections. Open to any feedback or recommendations on supplements or meds. Thank you Pure Anabolics for the quality gear!
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AK80Good idea on the frequent pinning I've been reading below - I split up all my stuff (Test/Mast/NPP) on Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays with 30g x 1/2" pretty much anywhere I want. If you ever start doing orals, NAC and TUDCA are a must. Universal Nutrition's Animal Pak vitamins are what I take every day; they have powder and pill form both. Irwin Natural's Prosta Strong. Been using PA/87's gear ever since they were No Excuses.
Thanks for commenting. Came in clutch with the tudca and NAC recommendation. I just picked this up recently. I have been slowly accumulating orals but have not ran any yet. Trying to have everything I need on hand before I run them. I’ll look into the animal pak and prosta strong. Appreciate the input.
Ed injections?? Are you doing them sub q or im?
Are you on any kind of hgh or mk677 anything like that?
Injections are probably a bit of both. I inject ventra glute,glute,quads. I am not currently running hgh but I have 2 kits of 10 iu vials that I was going to start when I increased the dosage. Thinking to run 2iu for 4 weeks and increase it by 1 iu every 4 weeks.
The 1st time I ran gh I started at 2iu a day and developed carpel tunnel pretty quick and had to stop. When I started again I titrated up from .5iu up to 5 iu over a month and didn't get carpel tunnel until 6 months later. Eventually had to come off it was so bad. I probably should have never went over 2 iu a day it actually a great dose for fat loss for me personally.
Thanks for the input! I’ll run the hgh with the same titration as you did.
Trips me out 250mg ed
So you pin 35.7mg a day ? Slin pins? You basically stay at 1k all the time, very stable? Compared to twitce weekly injections have you tried?
You are correct on daily mg and slin pins. I don’t run 250mg all the time, I go back down to 125mg/week when I am not experimenting. I have found the same results on e2 as seeohshow with daily injections. I was experimenting with increased test mg in relation to e2 without AI. I originally started by injecting once a week, moved to twice, thrice etc. Started with 23 ga 1inch 3ml and moved to 29 ga 1/2 inch for daily. No leakage when I draw the needle out slow. I’m sure daily injections are not for everyone. How often do you inject test and other compounds ?
Test is twice a week with the longer esters, shorter or a sustanon true sustanon is everyday
Tren ace everyday, Tren e - e4d
Eq once a week
Sternoprotocol ⭐️
Test 500 Tren 700 eq 300
Adex.5 every 3 days
Caber .25 every four days
Cialis 20
Dbol_dropped, anadrol _ dropped sporadic taking of random orals . 25 % reduction in strength noticed right off the bat . Never been so bloated never felt so strong
Just my honest shit, I’ve pushed the limit with some orals and combos and noticed my body doing things it shouldn’t be able to handle at its level,
I recently picked up some tren E for a future experiment with test. Any chance you can elaborate on must have supplements and medication to have on hand? I see you picking posting regularly. Thanks for the insights.
I gotta quiet down I think I’m ruffling too many feathers .
@Mikeyt84L.I..N.Y. Has more experience with the otc supplements, ask him
But in my experience creatine mono and now I have a decent whey protein at my disposal
Caber and good estrogen control is a must cause mine was sky high and I thought I was managing it well
After a while I feel like Tren dehydrates so every now and again a tall glass of baby spinach, orange juice and water juiced in my juicer as opposed to expensive multivitamins
Insomnia hits and that’s where things go wonky you’re sleep deprived but can still lift , imo this is what leads to Tren rage, it’s more lack of sleep and CNS stimulation whereas a medication such as a “Z drug “ I take and get fully rested
Thanks bro , I’ll reach out to the community when I come around to running tren. On a side note I think your engagement is super entertaining.
Yeah he is. One of the more genuine guys. Those quakes! Anyways thanks for posting
I appreciate you , genuinely I may have a short temper but I wish no ill will besides getting a fair one with someone I disagree with.
We all kinda have the just around here ya know? I’m just trying to live the mood up and make sure nobody is getting fucked out of decent gear
There’s many a few good dudes I can PM right now and get some good advice, or to vent too, If you have a bad day count on me to fuck it up for myself so YOU don’t have too.
Just be careful, Tren, trannies and teenagers
I’ve done those experiments. I love ED. Tried MWF at the suggestion of my eroids brother @press1. My E2 was nearly double on the same dose. Gonna stick with ED injects from now on just to reduce AI usage. The constant pinning with 30g needles isn’t even noticeable. If I’m under 0.5ml per shot it’s a 1/2” 30g slin pin. If it’s anything over 0.5ml I do a 1” 30g luer lock.
anvilSo have I, the less I pin the higher E2 goes. I use the same pins as you and I don't pin more than .6 in the slin pin per time. I normally split it up into 4 or 5, but you don't even feel them at all.
You don’t notice any of the oil leaking out when I do it in the delt
Haha” do it”. Anyway I find no matter how long I leave the syringe in a get like .2 ml loss of oil
You may be pulling the needle out too quickly/harshly. I find that when I’m extra slow physically removing the needle (5-10sec. it can be antagonizing… or enjoyable for freaks) there will just be a tiny dot of blood. If I pull out fast like how muscle memory wants to, there is always a small stream of oil/blood. This could be placebo I dunno, but it works for me!
Very true to what was said above and below- I don’t ever go above .5 with 1/2”- I prefer under .3 honestly.
I kinda like to think of it like a creampie! Leave it in and pull out extra slow most will be deposited with little to no leakage.
Pull it out quick/harsh no matter how long you leave it in there and you’re bound to get some extra leaking/kids flying about! LOL!
My sexual prowess has been activated,
This is good pro tips level Mike Adriano shit right here good looks
I’ll try but the 27 g is .5 maybe I should just use the inch, I think I’ll settle for the 1 inch delt
I can get away with 29-30g 1/2” with under .5ml pretty much anywhere. If I’m going subq always keep it pretty small too. That 1” is the real classic safe way! I was one of the dudes who was against reinventing the wheel, but I also hate needles so tried insulin pins. Now having bloodwork to back up that they work and give me similar levels to 1 1/2” 100% IM injects makes me confident in using them. I probably wouldn’t have gotten through the last couple ED protocols without being able to utilize them honestly
What I’ve been interested in is these 1” 30g leur-lock needles I’ve been seeing a bunch of! I have plenty of oils thin enough and that is guaranteed to painlessly hit deep in muscle. Sure it’s a slower inject, but taking away the pain/blood is a positive in my world!
Good info my man. So u dig those 30 gauge syringes huh? See that's the benefit of MCT oil but take an oil like grape seed or castor oil and not so easy flowing lol. But like anything you get pluses and minuses with each. I do like a good GSO though
Very good post, if you find them in no dead space versions be sure to send me a pm
Got so good at pinning I haven’t bled in months, I used to be a shaky pinner , nervous at that, now I just relax and never hesitate come to find out , it’s all about relaxation
Shaking is one of the worse things that you could do while pinning. Just pull those feathers back, relax and you're good to go. All that shaking and sweating you can forget about that. Only makes things worse lol
Exactly where the blood flows out from, twisting the barrel is the number one offender, I’ve even mapped out my quads to dance around blood vessels, shaved my hair on that part and everything, full transparency and I was still bleeding
Michael J Douglas pinning your glutes
Can't remember who the hell Micheal J Douglas is. Name sounds familiar. O Kirk Douglas's son. Now why would u imagine him pinning your glutes? Did I miss him pinning in a movie?
I totally fucked up the actor!
I’m thinking of the guy from back to the future and since I’m not a cheating ass hoe I try not to google search things and let my mind try and do the thinking
Ya know the guy with Parkinson’s? Bad joke, Michael Douglas you can pin my glutes any day, bro DeeMan your comment made me fucking roll..
Michael J Fox LOLOLOLOL
This is it, you want him far away from your sharps,
Tourette’s too, they can jolt rather quickly and tense up the face, it’s all no
Bueno,
You can solve dead space problems by pulling an air bubble into your syringe, let it rise to the top, stab yourself, then plunge. The air pocket at the top will push all the oil out of the luer lock cap. All syringes hold more than their state volume (you can pull the stopper further back than the last tick mark). Use that extra space to bring in that air bubble before jabbing and plunging.
Im half autistic. Slow down, lmao
Just fill the syringe with air?
Won’t let me add a photo. Snapped one of my prefilled syringes in my hotel room just for you lol.
Example: Take your 1ml syringe, add your needle to it for drawing, fill it with however much oil you need (let’s say 0.75ml), take the needle out of the vial, now pull the plunger up to the 1ml mark (now you have 0.75cc of oil and 0.25cc of air in the barrel), swap over to your pinning needle per usual, let the air bubble rise to the top (near plunger), insert needle into muscle group of choosing, and plunge down. The air bubble will compress slightly and the oil will start flowing through the needle. All the oil will be pushed out of the barrel and luer cap dead space by this air bubble. You’ll know when the oil is all gone because the resistance instantly drops when you start just pushing air. Don’t worry the little bit of air you push in won’t hurt you.
Hope that’s detailed enough. The picture really woulda made it easier to explain.
Trying this in the morning. Makes sense and I’ve been just cycling the last bit till the next pin to not lose any. Even after pinning, drawing the plunger back pulls everything out of the lure lock into barrel which can be used the next time. I knew there was a better way. I was just trying to minimize loss.
I’ve def done this before , and I’m anything but proper honestly you’d be mortified if I told you stories..
Is using the same barrel the best idea? I’ve wanted to so many times and I’m actually unsure but is the oil contaminated at any point?
As in has any of the leftover oil been subject to any bacteria , if not I’ve been wasting mad barrels for the sake of “sanitary” when I could save time and money and not lose oil
No sarcasm just want the take on it ,
Nighttttty night
Oh man. Bout to get reemed. I am 100% sure that there is “sanitation” issues. But I keep gear/accessories away from variables. Now, with the amount of insane unsanitary shit I’ve done in the past(w/ pins b4 gear); I’m not super worried about it. It’s all sealed and controlled to a high degree.
Listen, you speak freely here man you have that right, I’ve used the same pins multiple times when times were tough and I could only afford one vial at a time,
List goes on and on, if I didn’t know about this bubble method I have been thinking about keeping the barrels around , I just figure it mixes with the plastic and disloves it and changes chemical structure idk fringe shit
I have a qualm about pinning two different oils in the same syringe , I feel like it wouldn’t mix well as solo, they’re ocd quirks at some point
Bingo you’re right though just picking your brain, good man
I do agree with some of those ideas. Eventually the plungers deteriorate after a certain amount of uses. Microplastics. Definitely stuff to consider. I think if your are moving oils through barrels everyday, that’d be different than having stuff sit for 7/10 days etc. And as far as mixing, that would depend on compounds of course. But similar to how UGLs or labs sell blends/mixes; those are indicators of good ideas vs bad for mixing.
I’m all for mixing oils/oils and water/water in the syringe before you shoot it. Lil shake & g2g! Problems tend to arise when mixing suspension with oils or something similar. My thought process is all going to the same place. Never had a problem, but you may hear different opinions.
Only problem I’ve run into was heating up TNE and then tried to draw with that 18 gage ,, shit I must have lost damn near .5ml
Using that vent 18g must have loosened up the rubber stopper, switched to the 23 and I pinned with the 23 to make sure all the test was there.
Other quirks , most nurses are dopey the put alcohol wipes directly on injections spot that’s already bleeding and they think it will stop the bleeding smh -_-
Bingo it clicked, bro good looks I had an idea and the second detail got me.
I needed this, the 1ml pins I bought off Amazon waste like .10 no matter what, it was happening when I was subq MENT ace I noticed how much was wasted over time
Good take brother good take
+1 love the detailed explanation. Dead space really doesn’t bother me, but this is a smart solution!
Always leave the slight room to aspirate if you are going to use this method.
Nope never had a leak. I did if I went over 0.5ml with a 1/2”, which is why I go to 1” after that volume. I’ve pushed ~2.5ml with a 1” 30g and didn’t have any leakage. But I stay more lean year round than the majority of the eroids community. Not many places on my body where even 1/2” doesn’t get in to muscle even peak bulk
Are you using 31ga for peptides ? That’s what I been using. Are you able to run all as compounds through 30ga like primo,masteron,tren? Might try this gauge myself.
Yup peptides is 31g 5/16th. Everything else is 30g. Never had any viscosity issues. The oils from these top sources like PA flow like water.
I appreciate the input bro , any other experiments you would like to share ? I plan on running test masteron and test tren with lower dosages like test and primo but not exceeding 600mg/week in total.
Only other things I’ve tested is igf numbers running HGH with/without orals (elevated vs non elevated liver enzymes). Made a ~2x igf result difference having lower liv enzymes running HGH. Was dbol for the oral.
I’ve also tried inj adrol vs oral adrol. The inj version required about half the dose for the same “feel” and also the inj version only raised my AST/ALT maybe 5 points each. That’s after running it for ~3 weeks.
As far as dosages, I always skew towards lowest effective dose to get my desired result. I don’t prescribe to the theories like “primo has to be run at least at 800mg to even make it worth it.” Majority of the people on here aren’t way over their natural LBM natural limit, so don’t need massive doses to illicit growth or maintain current LBM.
I’m ~210 @ 6% bf right now. About 20lbs over my natural limit based on the calculators out there. I don’t need much to grown currently. Last cycle was still under 1g/week total. Next one will go slightly above 1g/week total after I titrate up.
Thank you for putting the time to write that out. I am of the same opinion on least dosage for desired results with least side effects. I am still heavily researching compounds. Just trying to learn as much as possible. Been keeping a spreadsheet log of everything I try.