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+ 6 Undecanoate orals.

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Idk, maybe a little assistance to give the scar tissue a little break and this will help to cut down on injections. Just for a little bit. 7 days and a promo

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Pushing Iron 87's picture

Defo interested to see how these work out for you mate. Check back in and let us know how you get on in lot weeks.

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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

Serum Testosterone Levels

In a single-blind study by Zhang et al., 160 men at least 50 years of age presented with a total morning serum testosterone measurement of < 230 ng/dL or a morning free testosterone level of <64.9 pg/mL. If the serum total morning testosterone level was between 230 and 345 ng/dL, participants were placed in either a treatment or placebo group. The treatment group received 120-160 mg of testosterone undecanoate (TU) oral daily, based on serum testosterone levels, while the placebo group received vitamin e/c capsules. The researchers found that serum total testosterone concentrations before and after intervention were (230 ±21) ng/L and (395±34) ng/dL, respectively, and the free testosterone concentrations before and after intervention were (30.0±5.0) pg/mL and (62.1±9.0) pg/mL [25]. Mean total serum testosterone and free testosterone concentrations of all patients at six-month follow-up remained within the reference range of adult males and were significantly higher than the corresponding baseline levels [25].

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DeeMan's picture

So the Duckman gotta jumping on the wagon huh? Let us know how it works cause supposed it has a low bioavailability rate

Pumped_'s picture

Sounds like its no point of even bothering. I dont think im stopping injections altogether, that will never happen. I can supplement the testosterone instead of supplementing with something like anadrol or dbol.

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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

Don’t go off my word, it’s just the information out there for studies, I had a great experience and I still have another jar left, just backed off the last one in favor for more injections, take them split four hours apart though

Also I have a theory since the ester is hydrophobic, the caps are what bouwen is selling so each cap can be broken down, and baked into a butter like cannabis thus creating a higher bioavailability of the capsule,

Not 100% sure but it’s something I’ll be looking into for the last jar I have, if anyone with chemistry background chime in, I can break each cap and cook at a certain time not to get over the 212 degree threshold where the hormone is damaged

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Pumped_'s picture

Undecanoate brownies

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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

I was thinking more like a cheesecake, lower the temp and you can barely notice a difference , wouldn’t want to have soupy UnDec brownies

If this is something source can market, I’d buy FO sho

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DeeMan's picture

Yeah I was just trying to figure out if Duckman had a good experience with that oral test u. I remember it having low bioavailability so guys had to take a lot of it. But I can see your thinking behind this. Only if higher bioavailability

Legion of Doom's picture

Interesting please let us know how these treat u.

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Ccacc's picture

Looks great, curious also

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23Sparta's picture

That’s badass. Very interested to hear what you think

ChuckThaDuck22's picture

I’ve just did a run , little more than trt, make sure you take with a high fat meal, Bio isn’t too great with oral undeconate it’s just something we can’t get around.

+1

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NWApatches's picture

I've heard bioavailability is >10%

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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

I’ll have a problem if my work is deleted again,, I brought this up in the source disscusion about proper dosing protocol for oral undeconate and it was deleted..

Hope mothefuckers on eroids have a stiff spine to stand on I’m not selling my soul to anyone on here; truth is you can do your own research on this compound, I ain’t sucking nobodies Mandingo dick and giving them bad trt protocol information ,, knowingly

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Pumped_'s picture

It must have got flagged to get deleted? But as long as your not mentioning labs i think its ok

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DeeMan's picture

Man you bought some of that test undec. Did you try it out at least? I didn't see your post comment on it.
And I agree, truth is truth

Pumped_'s picture

Thanks guys. Source says 2 a day. Imma try that and see what happens. For free i can experiment.

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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

Oral therapy

Androgens traditionally cannot be given orally due to poor bioavailability from extensive hepatic first-pass metabolism [23]. The only ester testosterone preparation available for administration by mouth is testosterone undecanoate. The greatest absorption of testosterone undecanoate occurs with the simultaneous consumption of meals high in fat concentrations. This is due to a "hydrophobic, long aliphatic chain ester," which "favors preferential absorption into chylomicrons entering the gastrointestinal lymphatics and largely bypassing hepatic first-pass metabolism." Despite adding an ester, multiple high daily dose regimens of 160 mg or 240 mg are deemed most effective due to undecanoate's variable and inconsistent bioavailability and short duration of action [24]. After compiling studies that were done regarding oral testosterone therapy, the following results were determined:

  1. Drugs and Lactation Database (LactMed) [Internet] [ Jul; 2019 ];https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501721/ 2006
  2. Handelsman DJ. Endocrinology: Adult and Pediatric 7th ed. Vol. 2. Amsterdam, Netherlands: Elsevier; [ Jul; 2019 ]. 2016. Chapter 138- Androgen Physiology, Pharmacology, and Abuse; pp. 2368–2393. [Google Scholar]
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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

Will you get labs drawn while just taking two softgels a day?

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DeeMan's picture

@Pumped @ChuckThaDuck22 whole different absorbtion route. Not as efficient as being absorbed through GI tract and intestines

Pumped_'s picture

And he said the capsules are better. i got the capsule with the powdered oil or whatever it is

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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

True it is the newer formula with the mct oil and biopierne , don’t think too hard just pop em down and leave the review right ?

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Pumped_'s picture

I dont know to be completely honest. Im not on bloodwork as much as Rustyhooker. I know i should be but im not. Its a lot harder where im at and i just get caught up in everyday schedule of take your shit, workout and keep going if i know its working. Just being honest and know im going to get reamed out by the blood test nazis. My body knows when its too low on testosterone so ill just up the inject rather then do the bloodwork that is gonna tell me what i already know

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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

I’m like you: ain’t a big diddler for bloods honestly , not shitting on the source either don’t get it twisted, just dose accordingly right?

It’s a great additive and does not affect HDL or LDL at all..

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Pumped_'s picture

I am forever grateful to the source, just seeing this for first time sparked my interest and i had to try it.

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ChuckThaDuck22's picture

Me too, best touchdown times , clean and smooth oils, orals and growth hormone that I know do what they say they’re gonna do,

Within the week there’s always something being added, just a little heads up, these will be coming soon!

New items coming this week:

Test PP - 100mg

Test Undeca - 250mg

Test PP - 100mg
NPP - 100mg
Mast P - 50mg

Test A - 40mg
Test P - 40mg
Test PP - 40mg

Test C - 100mg
Test Deca - 100mg
Mast E - 50mg

Test Deca - 150mg
Deca - 250mg
Mast -  100mg

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DeeMan's picture

Did you seeing Chuck post his test u spark your interest?

Pumped_'s picture

I saw it on the sources page and asked about it and chuck chimed in that he grabbed it before reading anything. I guess it did sway a little because i gave him the credibility. If he is willing to then ill try

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DeeMan's picture

Yeah even when I saw Chuck post that pic I got curious especially when he cited that blood test. I think it was over 1200ng

DeeMan's picture

Well Rusty will definitely be looking to hook ya. He wants that bloodwork