posted Sat, 09/14/2024 - 19:32
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+ 1 Swelling , insane pip fever
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Para pharma blows. Pip from every single product even when I cut it by 70% gso. My arm hurts so bad I had to skip the gym. Also have full body ache and fever.
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AK80Just start using #1, #3 and #4 in the USA from now on. Yes, I skipped #2 on purpose.
Why did you skip it? Could you elaborate?
I've been trying to find a good quality source with no pip and #2 is the closest to no pip I've tried so far.
Allow me to ask the obvious here.
If you've used them multiple times and always have issues then why the hell do you keep using their stuff?
before I didn't have this issue it seemed like.
If this is the Test400 then I've had the same experience, horrific PIP and swelling. Definitely not a one-off, I've seen more than a handful of others with the same issue as well.
Everyone who brings up this issue gets told the same thing, "cut it", "mix it", "bad technique", "inject lesser amounts", or my favourite... "tHATs NOrMaL fOR HiGH mg GeAR"
It's really not normal, it's a fucking infection lol. Ditch it and get something else, spare yourself the issue.
On another note, also had some fucking amazing PP gear, one of the darkest and best cut stacks I ever had was PP. Definitely a hit/miss brand for me.
Gotta be something in para that your body doesn't agree with. It sounds kinda like an infection and body is fighting it. That shit looks painful. I was using their NPP, Test P and once in awhile Test Suspension and never had something like that go on. Just a little bit of PIP from the Suspension. Now there is another source I got something like that and after 2 injections gave it away because it was to painful. My delt would swell, turn red and was hot to the touch for days. I believe it was because of the high mg to ml but not sure. Maybe try a different pharm and see how you feel. Good luck and hope that clears up soon.
so after reading through a bit I wanted to throw in my .02; @f6357941 that looks gnarly an unenjoyable! not criticizing your methods, I have never used this source, but I have used fair amounts of GSO. I have learned when injecting the viscosity of GSO (I have used) is the thickest I have seen. the pressure needed to push in 1ml or more - I start to get a "tension shake' not a lot, just from the pressure used to hold the consistent "push". the minor damage to tissue from the "shake" added with the high octane maybe just getting irritated? meaning was 21hours ago . how is it now? hope you get it figured out man!
I’ve noticed if I draw with a lower gauge, the rubber stopper doesn’t hold up well. How man pins are you up to with this compound ? I don’t usually run blends with para pharma but if you’re running higher concentration compounds, that would most likely contain Pip but also, make sure the vials don’t have particles if you’re drawing with a low gauge.
Yeah I noticed rubber bits with the 18 gauge but been getting pain with a 21 also
Your not pinning your triceps with a 21 gauge, right? Thinking about hitting triceps just seems uncomfortable. How do you hit your back arm??
I like the gear but pip def hurts.
KonstantViktoryThat sucks man. Even when cut with GSO? I've had some bad PIP before. Shit sucks. I ended up hoping a shitload if OTC painkillers, injecting oragel, and besting the fuck out of it with a theragun. Lol.
I had some of the highest numbers I’ve ever pulled off of their Sust350 many years ago but the PIP was crippling even at 0.5ml per inject
How much did you dump into your triceps
1cc i've never went over 1cc for any site
Good question
I’ll have to agree with PatrickStar, I’ve had some insane pip from parapharma , however it hasn’t overshadowed the fact that the gear is always dosed properly.
Awhile back I can’t name the site but DP and PP gear had the ratio of BA-BB fucked up, I think it’s due to poor sanitary conditions and pumping out the shear number of vials over in china, just throw some extra BA in it to cleanse it
Sure but then I gotta skip leg day and work around my pin schedule.
Never had the fever though,
Who is Patrick star? Been looking for him. Hollywood name
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea…
Jesus you are an old timer aren’t ya
Lol nah man just blocked off from you Earthlings. We all get old but not my time yet. Age is undefeated though. Even Ducks age Chuck!
I am pretty sure that ParaPharma is made in the EU, Spain I think. Could be wrong though - BUT I could also be Right!!! Ever thought about that eh??!!
Well fuck me running,
The Spaniards are usually a pretty good looking lot of folks, especially the ladies, yummm
Anyway the international market is ran by two or three giants and those brands fall underneath the umbrella, chances are we are pinning a lot more of the same gear than we think
Damn that's horrible
Yeah I think their high concentration gear does have pip with some. Did u have pip with their lower concentration gear?
When I use their test it’s always been the 400. I had two vials of sus350 and never got to try it because I got locked up,
I never had pip from cut stack 150 or long stack 300
That sust350 gave me the worst pip ever!!!
It’s funny. After letting mine sit for over a year the pip went away… or I just got lucky with a decent vial out of the 10 --
You probably got lucky with a decent vial. Thing is every batch can be different. We would like to think every batch is the same but that's just not always the case. I've had that same thing happen to me also. Strange I know
What gear is that from? And if not just one. Which ones?
I have no issue on para gear. You sure you just didn’t inject poorly? You said you cut it 70% with gso. Pretty sure para gear is mct oil. Bad reaction to gso? Maybe too much oil since 70% cut would be a lot of added oil.
Could be a lot of things, but I am currently on para gear with no trouble whatsoever. I’m probably not doing anywhere near your volume though.
Also where even is that? You say your arm hurts but that doesn’t look like your arm to me. Hard to tell though. Could have hit a nerve real bad too. Maybe the oil was too cold and crystallized or something.
Lots of factors here.
Edit: read comments and you said tricep. Never injected tris personally. Ever had issues there before?
I’m like 90% sure parapharma gear is GSO
Para is Migylol
Loved it when it was Sesame Seed
I’ve had one domestic source use safflower oil and boy was it thick but a little heat.. zero pip
Personally I'm a Castrol EDGE 5w30 guy, but it can be pricey depending on where you buy it.
I lube my TRANSmissions with WD-40 since it’s all bootyhole work don’t have to worry.
Ooooh that is a Dirty Oil for a dirty hole brother - very fitting
Best friend in college used "Pam" spray as lube one time.....ONE TIME. He was like I didn't have any lube and all I could find was Pam cooking spray. He was liek it felt like fire on his dinky.
It’ll ruin a nice dainty vagina, oh but that tranny ass is used to a good take, they don’t even have to warm up
I mean I'm not 100% sure, but a certain top supplier website is the only place I've seen it said what the carrier oil is and it says MCT. Their own website unfortunately doesn't say the carrier oil.
Switching to MCT can’t be the greatest, someone with longer experience of use please chime in.
Three years ago I had one source use mct,
Now I have to select options for gso
I have recently started using only MCT. I had used mainly grapeseed in past. I have had no issues with change. I had been preferring the mct as it "pushes" easier. what am I missing that's great about the GSO?
It’s the way the hormone is released in the gso vs mct
Yea a slight difference. Buddy of mine on here proved that with bloods
I didn’t know this either. I figured the half life was the same regardless of oil.
More research is required.
Wasn't thought to be the case but it does affect half life slightly... nothing major though
I never thought the structure of the carrier would effect the hormone it self. Looks like some more research ahead. What is the difference of change of the release? Faster, slower? Is it just because the mct oil metabolizes at different rate?
If we are talking a day, maybe two then I’d say it matters a whole lot,
You’ll be spending more frequently and someone will be taking advantage of that.
Really wish someone with the actual knowledge could step forward and give us absorption rate clearance between gso and mct
I thought so too but might be a combination of MCT and GSO. Not sure though
I've been on this site for over 10 years, do you think I inject poorly?
If you're cutting it with GSO and getting pip everywhere and fever then para isn't for you man. It's been known to happen to a few guys I know. I would think in 10 years you would know good inj technique so I wasn't focusing on that. Just not for you that's all.