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+ 1 Swelling , insane pip fever

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Para pharma blows. Pip from every single product even when I cut it by 70% gso. My arm hurts so bad I had to skip the gym. Also have full body ache and fever.

Pushing Iron 87's picture

Did you try heating the oil before ya pin bro found that helps with the high concentration test? The 350 was nice and smooth for me the 400 has more of a bite but if heated well and mixed with another product was all good def good test might be the carrier oil or the higher concentration getting you.

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f6357941's picture

Think I tried this a couple times didn't help

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HENCH500's picture

Looking good fella arms look HENCH but your triceps over shadowing your delts …………… sorry couldn’t help my self lol

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press1's picture

He is actually a Massive, strong guy this Geezer - Use to be 280 at my height!!

NWApatches's picture

Would you suggest a dedicated shoulder day?? Lolol

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

LMFAO!!!!! I'M DYING FROM THIS COMMENT.

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DeeMan's picture

From what I've seen most folks have no issues with Para but some have had issues like you mentioned. When you're dealing with Para's high concentration gear you gotta be careful.

Jockstrap's picture

I run para all the time. This is user error. How bout posting your cycle and pinning technique

f6357941's picture

shut the fuck up

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DeeMan's picture

+1. Well I thought about tri pins but damn if I did that it wouldn't be with high concentration gear so you're more of a man than I am. Good luck man. And never mind that dude

DeeMan's picture

How do you know it's an user error? A few folks have had issues with Para, I have as far as pip. You shouldn't judge everyone based on your personal experience

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Pumped_1.1kDixon_Credible11h ago
Sounds like the test400 or sust350

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f63579414Pumped_11h ago
Correct

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do you ever read or just the eroids troll? You cite you do small lil kid doses so if youve never pinned triceps with test 400 maybe stay off the porch.

DeeMan's picture

When you start making complete sentences, stop being a perv, start lifting weights, start looking half way decent and stop being a toxic troll, then maybe u can get on the porch. Since you wanna go that route I can look better than you ever will if I used 100mg/day, hell anyone would against you. As if we don't already know about your penguin body. Not sure how you're able to even give any useful info. Bottom line is some folks get pip from para regardless of concentration or injection location you toxic troll. That got you in trouble before.

DeeMan's picture

Did I say 100mg/ day Jockstrap...no a week, yes a week!

ChuckThaDuck22's picture

And so it starts!! You’re quacking back good sir, all we needs 87 to chime in and we got ourselves a rip roarin shit show,

“Still running fully addicted cycles Tommy?”

RustyHooker

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DeeMan's picture

he still hasn't learned anything. Just look at his comment. Only negative comment

ChuckThaDuck22's picture

That’s what happens when you have napoleon complex

He used to be riding high on the diss train, that ship sailed long ago and now all he’s got left is bottled up sexual frustration and Vaseline. Who know how that will come out

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NWApatches's picture

Para pharma was great stuff when I used it. Never had an issue.

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Nattyboomba's picture

I’ve used Para many times and my experience with them each time has been exemplary. If your injection technique is good you’re likely just using gear that’s too hot for your bodies parasympathetic systems liking

IRONWarrior99's picture

I had an issue with the test 400 myself. I had to stop even after pinning .5. Every pin was brutal pip and swelling. Not as bad as yours, but not worth it.

Hope you feel better bro!

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Kaido's picture

Brother I would say if you are sure you did the pin correctly, meaning everything being clean and sanitised, it's an immune reaction.
I also had exactly the same symptoms with test400. So much pain I was limping and couldn't train at all or even walk without grinding my teeth from pain.
Also had fever, also the swelling and redness started in upper outer glute quadrant and got down to my mid thigh. Tried again next pin on the other glute, same results. Also I did 0.5cc.
I looked up into it and I might be wrong here, but from my understanding, it's because of the high hormone concentration. The oil get's absorbed much quicker than the hormone so it gets crystallized and you get a reaction from your immune system because it thinks of it as a foreign body/infection.
That made sense for me because pip and swelling came around 48 hours after the pin, not directly on the day after.
Sorry for the long talk, in the end I would give it some time if you did the injection nice and clean and you ll be good. If you want to be 100% sure, better go see a doctor. Hope it helps.

Edit: I don't believe there is something wrong with Para Pharma, the opposite. It's just the concentration of the hormone that maybe doesn't agree with the oil absorption rate.
Their Long Stack 300 gave 0 pip every time, so if it was something with them it would be with other products too.
I wanna try their test250 and see how it goes and maybe someone who used it could give us his insight!

Woogs's picture

My experience with Para. Great gear.

Susta 350- great results but terrible pip

Test c- quality test with no pip

Mast E - quality product with no pip

I’ve had friends run their 350 with little to no pip. If I go over 250 a week, I up my test c

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Dixon_Credible's picture

Plz review the specific products so we can get more information.
Also, hope you feel better soon brother

Pumped_'s picture

Sounds like the test400 or sust350

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HENCH500's picture

I used the para pharma sust 350 loads of cycles with zero pip … highly rate para pharma my self

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f6357941's picture

Correct

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Pumped_'s picture

Im not brave enough to put the sust350 into a tricep. Quad only got that concentration. Not sure if its the 200/100/50 or its the propionate that gives me that bite. Definitely top lab and the pain only proves its some good potent test. Some wont feel it and i had some buddys complain to high hell. Would always throw a ml of deca with it and you wont feel a thing

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press1's picture

I can't make out what area we are looking at here - need to take it from further away mate.

f6357941's picture

Triceps it got rotated for some reason

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Jaxattax86's picture

Where are you injecting? You’re not injecting in your triceps, are you?

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f6357941's picture

Triceps my favorite spot

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DeeMan's picture

Not a good spot for high concentration gear but you said you cut it. Best to stay away if that's the case