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E2 levels test c 180 mg a week

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E2 results 83
Test c 180mg a week

Been little hard to sleep some nights any idea what to do here no a/i the only Side effect hard to get 8 hours or sleep in and take a hour to hour and half to fall asleep

Is it better to go back to Pinning once a week instead to twice

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Chad P's picture

I purchased it as well as the Calcium D Glucarate that he mentioned in hopes it would help tame some of the acne I experienced when I started running test. Once I came across this info I discontinued after just a few days and went the accutane route.

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DeeMan's picture

See I knew about both DIM and Calcium Glu but I wasn't too confident in either one. But you're saying they work but not how we would like them to work.

23Sparta's picture

Man, microdose that shit ED or EOD. Shallow IM or subq. 83 is not the business for wherever 180mg puts your t-levels at

DeeMan's picture

Have you always micro dosed or do you?

23Sparta's picture

Yeah, I’m a fucking pin cushion over here lol

DeeMan's picture

Mannnn!!!! I'm a coward then. And I'll stay one too lol

23Sparta's picture

lol, I mean, it just is what it is. Maybe I have a fetish?

DeeMan's picture

Maybe so. Aye I remember a few years ago when a member posted how he was addicted to pinning several times a day and he loved that adrenaline type feeling he got while pinning, not after. Dude tripped out. He also said he loved feeling that needle poke him. That's what he said

23Sparta's picture

Oh hell no, lmfao, naw I was just playing. No sir that is not me, I don’t enjoy it. It’s just that’s what’s working for me right now

DeeMan's picture

From this moment forward you'll be looked at as that guy!!! You just let us know who you really are...Lol

23Sparta's picture

Alright maybe I’ll start a support group or something

DeeMan's picture

I'll tell you that dude had the strangest post ever. It gave us the chills man lol. You don't wanna be that guy!

23Sparta's picture

Definitely get some weirdos around here

DeeMan's picture

Yep. Just saw a post a second ago

23Sparta's picture

6 subq ed and an IM eod is my life right now

DeeMan's picture

Damn alot of belly pokes daily

23Sparta's picture

Upper thighs/loins too

DeeMan's picture

But subq GH ED though right? I mean that's understandable

23Sparta's picture

Yeah, I gh multiple times a day right now

DeeMan's picture

Wow. Yea I think you just love pinning. Look at my comment to you above about that other member

23Sparta's picture

No, lol, I have less sides and better results spreading my gh dosage thought out the day ie morning fasted, pre workout, before bed

Benny1818's picture

Never only did twice a week

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DeeMan's picture

O ok

Benny1818's picture

Ok I’ll get insulin syringes and back load daily

What do u mean 83 is not the Business for wherever
180mg puts t level at ?

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Dixon_Credible's picture

No need to back load the insulin pin. Unless your test is in some sludge-like carrier oil you'll be able to draw it. It's not the fastest process in the world but doable. We're talking like 13 units a day on the insulin pin if you doing daily subq for 180mg per week. It's easy. I pin every morning after brushing my teeth so I don't forget. Plus, it mimics your body's natural process as test is highest in the morning.

DeeMan's picture

He meant kinda high for that 180 mg dose of test. E2

ReaperIsLost's picture

Twice a week is better for stabilized bloods but I recommend taking an AI if you're having e2 sides.

Benny1818's picture

Thanks! afraid to crash it. How much and how often to take and do u think it will put me back on the 30/40s I was 30 E2 pre Trt

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SeeOhShow's picture

You shouldn’t need an AI on trt. Inject more frequently and/or lower your dose. If more frequent injections at 180/wk still puts you that high on e2, then you need to lower the dose. Frequent injections do make an appreciable difference in e2 levels though.

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boldenone99's picture

Not true.I have always higher estrogen or high on trt : nebido or test cyp or sustanon or gel.Some people convert more to e2 i think it can have be something with predespositon and food etc. I think the biggest think is how you deal with high estro some people dont even know they have it but some feel it bad.

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DeeMan's picture

+1 what u said is rare but true

DeeMan's picture

Well normally someone on TRT at normal range wouldn't or shouldn't need an ai, now we shouldn't act as if everyone is normal because those rare such as yourself may need an ai. I've seen this a few times so we should be careful not to generalize everyone lol. But yea normally no ai should be needed.

SeeOhShow's picture

This isn’t a subjective opinion I will argue. Claiming you need an AI on TRT would be akin to saying normal functioning males and teens going through puberty also need an AI for their natural test production. That’s great you have an opinion, but it is objectively wrong. I have no issue with trying to run a TRT dose higher than your body can tolerate though. Just don’t go about spouting fallacies that real TRT can have an AI involved just because you like to run higher TRT.

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