Looking for some feedback on my next planned cycle
Just looking for some input from some more experienced guys about my next planned bulking cycle. Current stats are 6' tall, 185 lbs 15% bf. This will be my 5th cycle. I have previously done 350 test c for 12 weeks, 500 test c for 12 weeks, 350 test c, 150 deca & 50 mg/day proviron for 12 weeks and 350 test c, 350 dec, 600 primo for 14 weeks. Though there was some questions as to how legit the primo was so i grabbed some from another vendor to give it another go. Plan for this cycle is to put on some more lean tissue. I'm not sure if 10 lbs is realistic here for me. But i'd be happy with 7-8 lbs of actual lean tissue gained.
I've already went to get my pre cycle bloods drawn. I plan on getting blood work drawn around week 4-5 and again around week 10. I have plenty of arimidex on hand and will use as necessary according to symptoms. Last time around with this cycle i had to use .5 mg EOD starting around 4-6 weeks in. I also have plenty of 50 mg proviron, 50 mg anavar and 10 mg dbol on hand though i'm not sure i intend to use any of it.
Training consists of a 6 day antagonist split. Each muscle group gets hit twice per week. I'm starting with bumping my calories up from my 2500 cal maintenance to 2800 and will bump that up by 200-300 calories as the weight stops gaining. Once i reach the end of the run i'll just be dropping back down to my normal trt dose. If i stop at 16 weeks that leaves me 7-8 weeks to get everything cleared from my system so i can go get my next 6 months blood work for my trt dr.
So how does this sound to you guys? Have i over looked anything? Would you recommend adding in any of the orals i have on hand? Or maybe changing the dosing of any of the oils?
Any input is appreciated.
| Weeks | Compound | Dose | Dosing Schedule | Weekly Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1-3 | Test P | 50 mg | EOD | 175 mg/wk |
| 1-3 | NPP | 50 mg | EOD | 175 mg/wk |
| 1-16 | Test C | 50 mg | ED | 350 mg/wk |
| 1-16 | Deca | 50 mg | ED | 350 mg/wk |
| 1-16 | Primo | 86 mg | ED | 602 mg/wk |
| 1-16 | GH | 5 iu | ED | 35 iu/wk |
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You’ve previously used 500 test is there a reason your coming back down to 350? And will you be on the gh before you start this cycle? Or just when the cycle starts, you’ll start the gh
I bumped it down when i went to add in another compound for the first time. I was taking 1mg arimidex EOD at that high of a test dose. I'm already on 5 iu/day. I got myself worked up to it beforehand so i'd just be there too start.
I'm not against possibly bumping something up after the initial bloodwork.
That’s an awful lot of AI for that amount of test. But if you needed it then I guess you need it. And ya I was asking about the gh to advise you to taper up.
The reason I asked about the test is that the longer I do this shit the more I’m realizing that testosterone can safely be ran fairly high, at least safer than other compounds and higher than other compounds. Also a lot of guys claim that it’s also very effective when ran higher but I’ve had so many issues with my diet I haven’t gotten great results from anything in awhile now so I haven’t experienced that part first hand lol. But there’s also guys who have no fun with test, lose hair, crazy acne, aromatize ALOT, and for those guys they kinda just have to run it low
I'm def in the acne dept. Drives me crazy. I guess on the plus side it all tends to be on my back.
I was originally doing .5 adex EOD @ 500 mg. I was still sweating my ass every night in bed and had sensitive nipples.
Since there were questions about the primo from last time as it was from DC, if this stuff crushes my e2 levels i would be open to bumping up the test as opposed to lowering the primo. Depending on how crushed it was at least.
That would be nice, I know a lot of big guys will run primo or mast just so they can run test higher.
Chase is one lol
I'm literally watching his video now about the quest to hit 20,000 ng/dl.
WTF man?!
I think that’s one of the ways someone can be “genetically gifted” not just shape and ability to grow, but ability to handle high doses. There’s guys that can even do a trt dose of test without every.single.side effect. The only guy I ever thought should do an oral only cycle, he just can’t take test. Or if you have sky high blood pressure and cardiac issues under 500mg, your just not gunna be able to run a “pro” level cycle
Chase can run enough gear to kill ten horses and his blood work looks fine, I bet something will go wrong before he hits 20,000
Well, there’s a video where Steve goes over Chases blood work on like a few grams of test and Mast/Primo…. it wasn’t that bad
AK80Looks ok to me. You'll definitely gain 10 pounds, maybe more, and some of it will be water. May as well toss in 25mg of that Proviron you have laying around everyday for the whole duration of the cycle too. By taking little doses of the Test C frequently along with the Primo, you shouldn't need an AI. That blood test on week 4 or 5 will let us know.
The 7-8 lbs is what im hoping to be able to keep after it's all done. 10 would be even better. The proviron i have is in 50 mg pills. So that's the smallest i could take.
AK80Put 25mg under your tongue in the morning and the other half in the evening. Continuing after 16 weeks with TRT should help you keep that 7-8 pounds no problem.
They're powder filled capsules unfortunately. So it's 50 mg or nothing.
I am thinking it might be better to wait until week 5-6 to get the initial blood work. That way the test p and npp should pretty well be cleared from my system.
AK80Ohhh like those light blue 60mg Vyvanse. Pain in the ass
Good idea waiting until week 5 or 6. Since Proviron's half life is about 12 hours, just take it in the morning then.
I meant i think it'd be better to wait to get blood work until after the fast acting esters will be mostly out of my system. At week 4 i'd still have some test p and npp in my system. I think it would be better to get results with only the long esters i'll be using from that point on to be in my system.