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STORE CREDIT:
We offer a store credit for individuals who take the time to personally send
out our products for third party HPLC testing, as well as serum GH, Testosterone, and IGF-1 blood testing.

  • Store Credit For Somatropin (HGH) Amount, Purity and Dimer - $500USD
  • Store Credit For Somatropin (HGH) Amount and Purity - $400 USD
  • Store Credit For IGF-1 Testing - $150 USD TERMS APPLY
  • Store Credit For HGH Serum Testing - $75 (Inject IM Fasted, exactly 3hrs before blood draw, no physical activity beforehand)
  • Store Credit for Testosterone Bloodwork - $100 USD
  • Store Credit for AAS HPLC Testing - $250 USD

Testing must be done by Janoshik.com OR another reputable HPLC lab
(upon approval). For any questions regarding the testing process please
reach out to us via email or contact Janoshik directly:

IGF-1 Testing Terms:
- Must show proof product was purchased at least 6 weeks prior to the date blood was drawn for the test
- Must give a detailed description of the dosage/context IE: Batch used, dosage used, duration, dosing scheme (AM/PM/etc), caloric intake above/below maintenance, other pharmacology in play
- Must create a post under "photos" section tagging us with the aforementioned description/context
- Credit is only redeemable 1x every 3 months per person

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Kits4Less is a USA based company on a mission to change the game of generic HGH. We aim to bridge the gap between affordability and quality with our strict lab-testing & quality control standards. Every batch of HGH is quality tested before it’s listed for sale, & we simultaneously maintain competitive pricing on our products.

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  1. No calorie defecit, liver values fine, estro high, not running any ai. Only thing was test, tren, and caber. I have recently stopped the tren and caber though.
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TheBreadWinner's picture

the tren is probably the cause here so I'd be less concerned in your scenario. If true natty level is closer to 100 then you'd just be moderately below average.

scoobydoo's picture

Awesome. Can't wait to see your results.

ForeverFitBod1's picture

Source please return to this forum. I will no longer post here from this point on. Thanks ~

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daksmack's picture

I’m late to what’s going on here, I’ve read through some stuff, but can anyone give me the cliffhanger version?

I just ordered a kit from here and everything was smooth. I haven’t began the kit yet but was planning on it in the coming weeks.

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scoobydoo's picture

Just a bunch of shit stirring. There's been a low igf-1 score by one member. A good igf-1 score by a newer member. There will be more igf-1 tests coming in. I wouldn't come to any conclusions off of 2 tests. I'll be doing an igf-1 test in 3 weeks to a month. I'm sitting on 6 kits, soooooo, yeah. Lol

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Ah I see..

I’m starting my kit from here in a few weeks, will definitely come back here to advise. Very pleased with communication and shipping was fast. I’m hoping for some good GH, I love the idea you can get 300iu in a kit, thus is great for someone like me who travels overseas all the time.

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TheBreadWinner's picture

If foreverfitbod is correct - based on alleged source:

supremes are 24iu grey tops
deluxe are 15iu
economy/standard 10iu

The 24s and 15s jano tests are all overdosed when cross-referencing other forum results I can find, including results published by the alleged source themselves.

I would not consider K4L's listings to constitute "false advertisement" based on this - however, there may be some stretching of the truth via cherry picked results. A F500 company could get away with this so I'm not particularly upset if an individual committing federal crimes engaged in clever marketing.

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This comment is entirely theory; however, this is making some sense to me. At the end of the day, all the stuff comes from the same places - UGLs are reselling peptides and brewing injectables from raws. None of these vendors have multimillion dollar labs.

Note: if this post breaks the rules - I would request support or reference for members to learn about supply chain and logistics for the things they may be purchasing and testing. Not how to do it, find it, or whatever... how does it work?

I think this is important - reduce the unknowns to - "is my vendor reliable, discrete, and trustworthy".

Kits4lessdomestic's picture

Hey man! I'm glad you brought this up, as it shows some people are possibly being mislead into thinking that we are synthesizing and lypholizing our products in-house. To my knowledge, no such operations exist domestically (in the underground world that is).

Currently all of our products are wholesaled. We have used QSC as a vendor for Standard Batches A through C, although we haven't used them since. Reason being? Our current supplier is significantly better when it comes to communication, logistics, etc. QSC takes a month to give us a tracking number, while our current vendor has gotten product on our doorstep in less than 2 weeks from payment clearing. That's no real fault of QSC by the way, they are simply a massive operation with 10x more demand and clients than they can actually handle.

You are 100% right that almost all raw materials in our industry come from only a handful of factories, primarily in China. Even most suppliers that are wholesaling the products are actually just distributors, and aren't necessarily employed by the factories in question.

however, there may be some stretching of the truth via cherry picked results

You are 100% correct, there is nothing that stops us, or any source from cherry picking lab results. We recently have been making an effort to send in more and more samples for every HGH batch, to illustrate the amount of intra-batch variance that can exist, but admittedly, this still doesn't stop us from cherry picking results. The only way to hedge against that as a consumer beyond a shadow of a doubt is through blind testing. That's why we incentivize it with store credit.

If there is any other clarity I can provide regarding our supply chain, I am inclined to answer, provided that answering wouldn't pose a risk to our operational security.

TheBreadWinner's picture

damnit - felt like I was solving a mystery haha. I find it a bit less satisfying as at least QSC has years of HPLC, jano tests, etc. At the same time, QSC also has gotten more recent negative press - so a different source can be seen as a positive.

Would you say its just coincidence that supremes and QSC 24s both have grey tops? I dont know if there's common color scales.

Does the recent legislation in China impact you? I would guess not, since you are acting as a vendor rather than an individual.

Thank you for providing an update!

Kits4lessdomestic's picture

I generally do not like to speak in absolutes, but I am 95% certain QSC does not manufacture any peptides themselves, and my general chit-chat with our main distributor in China has more or less confirmed this. It is entirely possible I am wrong, as I am not intimately familiar with their operation.

What I can say categorically though, is that the overwhelming majority of AAS raws, peptides, etc from China are produced in completely "legal" facilities. The same facilities that are producing say, Testosterone raws for Pfizer. (Pharmaceutical companies have the buying power to demand MUCH higher quality control standards from these factories. The fact of the matter is, all the product that doesn't meet the pharmacopeia standards gets distilled into the "underground", ie our industry. Hence why you rarely see 99% purity raw test reports in the "underground".)

Tangential fun fact, despite their being hundreds if not thousands of companies, and even factories that sell and wholesale creatine monohydrate, you can count on one, maybe two hands the number of factories that are actually synthesizing creatine monohydrate themselves. Simply put, the technology at play here is very antiquated, and pretty much monopolized by a few big players. It's not that Pfizer couldn't make their own testosterone APIs, it's just that they have absolutely no desire to, they are focused on the cutting edge of pharmaceutical engineering, as opposed to wasting their bandwidth messing around with technology from the 1930s.

Would you say its just coincidence that supremes and QSC 24s both have grey tops? I dont know if there's common color scales.

It's entirely possible, in fact relatively probable, that where ever QSC sources their grey top HGH is the same place our distributor sources them from. I'm sure I could squeeze a direct answer to this out of my distributor, as our relationship is quite strong, but I'm not necessarily inclined to do so. I will say though, that top colors are relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things, our supplier gives us full autonomy to have any top colors we'd like on our products, as they custom order their batches from the factory they get the product from. They also custom order the "overdose" specifications on the product. To directly answer your question, yes the grey top "Supreme" batch is technically supposed to be 24iu, plus the overdosing specifications they request, so your logic train tracks very well. Since our business model is predicated on testing every batch, we by and large have ignored the dosing the batches are supposed to contain, and decided to let the test results speak for themselves. Otherwise, we would just advertise "Supreme" as 240 IU kits, but that would of course be quite lazy, and disingenuous.

Does the recent legislation in China impact you? I would guess not, since you are acting as a vendor rather than an individual.

I've been an observer of the "underground PED" scene in China for quite some time, both peripherally from the outside in as a consumer, and now from the "inside out" as a vendor. Every time there is allegedly some sort of new legislation and crackdowns, their seems to be a "blip" of enforcement, and then everything goes back to normal. I'm not going to pretend I have even a vague understanding of China's politics, but I think by and large the Chinese government every so often instigates some sort of "crackdown" on our industry for political appeasement, and then it all dies down and goes back to "normal". Again, this has just been my observation, and it's entirely possible that I am completely off base. I have a handful of relationships with people that have been around the block much longer than me, and they largely agree with my sentiment.

I will say, I do applaud your investigative work though haha! You're far more well informed than most, and hopefully this dialogue will be educational for other consumers.

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Wow - really appreciate the deep dive and it tracks that QSC is more likely a distributor rather than the manufacturer - for a facility that can actually make the things in question - they just don't really need to and its not textbook business anyway.

To think that a particular source is totally vertically integrated and that includes a team for "underground" logistics - yeaaaa no probably not.

Really insightful - Thanks for taking the time and being transparent. I also hope others find value in the info shared.

Happy Easter!

Kits4lessdomestic's picture

My pleasure man! Glad I could be insightful!

This whole discussion piqued my interest, so I had some back and forth with our main distributor about it. Here's what he said regarding QSC. Keep in mind the language barrier here haha.

Their model should be the same as ours. She will not have her own factory, unless it is an illegal underground factory, because such a factory has to be equipped with a lot of workers. The most important thing is that the production of generic drugs will face serious criminal responsibility in China, and there is no need for her to take risks.

Here are some factories that are actually producing HGH out of China

http://m.qjbio.com.cn
https://www.gensci-china.com

Happy Easter :-)

ForeverFitBod1's picture

Or we can read the results ourselves from a reputable member who was running six IU per day. That works too.

So yes, if the source is reliable discrete and trustworthy. Nothing else really matters. Not even bloods.

So in 12 years you just woke up one day and decided to be very active here.. ok.then

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TheBreadWinner's picture

That's not what I meant - by understanding where things come from and how it works behind the scenes it just gives people a more informed position to evaluate from. Your posts pointed me in a direction I wasn't aware of and instantly leveled up the data I can reference.

I didn't say nothing else matters, I said reducing unknowns. I'm interested in harm reduction.

Please consider taking a rational, logical approach when making arguments - strong emotional appeals are for politicians.

Thank you.

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As far as being able to receive a store credit, there isn't much to it. Just be able to prove you purchased the product from us, and send out a sample to Janoshik (or other lab). If you send out multiple vials for variance testing, we will fully reimburse that aswell.

If you have questions regarding the actual process of sending in samples to Janoshik, his team is usually quick and happy to answer.

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scoobydoo's picture

Are you running your gh yet?

scoobydoo's picture

Ok. I remember seeing that. Looks like you respond well to gh. Are you thinking of doing an igf-1 test after you start Kits gh?

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Awesome. I'd upvote you, but I'm out. Lol

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Got it

ForeverFitBod1's picture

I think you have to put in an order, pick a random vial from any of the boxes, and have it sent out for testing. Then you will get reimbursed

Oh appreciate the friend request this morning too, I don't get them too often lol

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press1's picture

LMAO!!! Are you no longer one of the 'Cool kids' mate?!!

ForeverFitBod1's picture

Lets just say being an asshole is only my shy side haha

Have I told you + Press1 your the MAN + lately? Well I just did! Holy Karma King! I haven't noticed lately, but it's well deserved and respected. It's Red. He's on FIRE ~Much love

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press1's picture

LMAO Mate Lol Not only Red Bro - the Darker shade!! I can't actually remember where it goes after that colour, I think Rusty was into the Mid 5k's but I think its still red at that point.

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Can i cut in and have this dance

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