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Supreme Batch A.
3IU AM and 3IU PM for 6IU total.
I was only on it for 19 days before checking, so maybe that did something? Only on 150mg/week of test cyp right now with it.
I’ll get it checked again once I finish the box. Took quest 10 damn days to post this. Sorry for the long ass wait.

EDIT for full transparency:
I do have my own theory. My AST/ALT have not fully recovered from my previous cycle and they’re still sitting at like 80 each. I was trying out a new supplement instead of my TUDCA/NAC/Milk thistle (and it clearly didn’t work). I’m thinking since my liver is still in a stressed state/recovery mode it wasn’t able to fully do its thing for igf. I bet this is reflected on my retest after going back to my standard liver protocol.

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HandsomeLifter's picture

Most definitely

23Sparta's picture

Appreciation for posting bloods. Have you previously ever scored an IGF-1 high, out of range?

SeeOhShow's picture

I hadn’t got to the point of being able to test on my other brands GH before hopping over to kits brand. I jumped immediately so I could get bloods for y’all. The test is pretty cheap and I have no problem running it a bunch to test other variables

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23Sparta's picture

Thankfully, it is a cheap test. I’ve never scored a high IGF-1 and I’ve tested quite a few times with various brands and under various protocols. Super interesting to me is this video where vigorous Steve goes over Chase Irons bloodwork

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7cu6Dty8YI

Time stamp 1:19:00 a little after that. Chase is using 18iu a day of 1st world pharma grade growth and his IGF-1 is in the 200s. He said he’s never had an IGF-1 in the 300s and Steve said the same thing as well.

Just something to consider and keep in mind

Chad P's picture

That’s interesting. They both say theirs float between 150-250…

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23Sparta's picture

Correct, and you know both of them (especially Steve) have years of their own bloodwork to go off of. They also have the funds to be able to afford and consistently use pharma grade. Chase even remarks that it’s not unusual, he consults lots of people. Some individuals do not score high IGF-1. Why that is and what that actually means, idk. I do know you can still reap massive benefits from having high GH serum levels. Also, that Steve at his peak was big af, and Case is mutating into a monster in front of our eyes. I’m just saying that everyone is different and judging a products quality through bloods isn’t always cut and dry.

Chad P's picture

Yea I’ve learned that just hanging around the forums and seeing conversations about test scores, particularly test c or e where 2 individuals run the same amount from particular sources and have scores that aren’t even close to each others.

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23Sparta's picture

Yup, it’s highly individual, lots of variables at play aside from product quality. Can be very frustrating at times.

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Mac12769's picture

Damn. Thanks for testing/posting. Look forward to retest, but that’s enough for me to see.

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KevK's picture

Where you doing 6IU for the 19 days?

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SeeOhShow's picture

Yes. Started immediately at 6IU, because I was already at 5IU from another brand. Went from 2.5/2.5 to 3/3 on day 1 of injecting Supreme A

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KevK's picture

Not good feel for you. 223 is a bass line (as you will know) depending how old you are.

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SeeOhShow's picture

Everyone I know it’s a bad score for the dosage. I’m gonna switch from injecting subq to shallow IM, run out the rest of the box at 6IU/day same split as before. Then get bloods again. I have 4 vials left in the box. So ~30 more days I’ll be posting bloods again.

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NWApatches's picture

I know almost nothing about growth/igf and testing. Are you saying this is a good test for 6 IUs of growth daily?

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DeeMan's picture

Yea this is a good test for GH but not the score expected for the 6IU dosing. I would of thought at least double this score. But hey maybe a better score will come with these kits.

Mdes's picture

This score is extremely low for 6ius

NWApatches's picture

Ok. I was dead set on using this source for growth this summer because of pricing. Low test = low quality correct?

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Rosschestzip's picture

Not necessarily tho. He could be on a medication that lowers the score, he could be a non or low responder. And we do t know his initial score. BUT this score doesn’t look good. If he’s a normal responder, started at a normal level and doesn’t take anything else that could lower or mess with the test, then yes this stuff would be considered not very good

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Mdes's picture

Usually how it works . That’s a good number for someone’s baseline without taking any exogenous growth . Considering this is the first igf test for this source I’d wait to see if any other people test . I got the deluxe b just because of price but it’s hard to go off of just feel . I felt more from less ius from another top sources growth

Kits4lessdomestic's picture

The first IGF test on eroids I believe, however we do have a handful on other boards.

Hopefully the total sample size increases a ton, we only started offering a store credit in the past 2 months or so.

DeeMan's picture

100%.....depending on age that would be baseline IGF level for some folks.

SeeOhShow's picture

Correct. But I’m gonna test again once I finish the box

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Mdes's picture

Damn not good for 6iu . I’m on deluxe b at 5iu . Thanks for the blood work

wanted's picture

Does this make you think about upping the dose. Now im alittle concerned

DeeMan's picture

Don't be skerrrrrd now!

wanted's picture

Im gona go with it. But im now wondering if i have to drop my masteron that im running at 400 mg if running hgh. I have kept it all in last time and mirror looked great but not sure the numbers

Chad P's picture

I’m running the cut stack so I’ll keep it incorporated, gonna try to get my gh/IGF tested in the next few weeks and see where I’m at. Like these guys said, not necessarily the compound, but how the compound affects you and your markers.

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DeeMan's picture

Some guys disagree but I do think masteron or other dht derivatives will affect score based on what I've seen and heard. Just my opinion