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-1 35 year old - digital nomad all over europe - from Texas - have Rx for Test but restarting a cycle

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35 year old Texan - Digital Nomad - not my first cycle or rodeo but now worries - Test by prescription, Anavar, Semaglutide - main worry is mood swing.

Howdy Guys and maybe Gals -

No stranger to the gym I'm benching 315 and squatting close to the same. Deadlift is much lighter with a knee and back injury.

History:I did a cycle way back at 21years old (t400, tren, equipoise) - ruined my testosterone

Now on TRT: since 31 and 120-240mg/week + aromasin on injection days + viagra (100mg)/cialis(20mg daily on non Viagra days) that barely work when I'm with a partner

I now have a real prescription for Testosterone Cypionate from my urologist. As a nomad I travel all over, it's hard to get quality meds all the times. In Bosnia they had no earthly idea what anti-aromatase was. While in Serbia all they'd give me is Depo Test which I believe is a cypionate. I hate it.

I don't like it because it's easy to accidentally have it linger in my system too long and do too much. Screwing with my mood swings.

My biggest concern is: MOOD - I have a lucrative very public facing role where I negotiate large contracts and I can't be weepy or over aggressive or passive aggressive with no filter like I was in my 20s taking the t400, tren and equipoise - or even now if i accidentlly do too much depo. I cannot afford to lose this job.

Questions then:
So what test should I switch too that's safer to not overdo accidentally and keep my mood stable ( I have to take it by prescription for the rest of my life). I try to stay around 140-240mg per week. Enough to be peak normal values. Maybe enanthate instead of cypionate?
What additional compound could i add to help with weight loss without crazy moods. I was thinking anavar or ostarine or mk2866, and semaglutide
Will the other compound be safe if i've had a knee reconstruction - no adverse effect? - Ex: I here Winstrol is bad on joints
I was also prescribed Ozempic/Wegovy (Semaglutide) but it's sold out where I am. If i find some can i use it conjunction with the above?
When I was in my 20s doing that crazy cycle my mood was crazy but my libido was destroyed and I still have trouble with it. I've done 100mg Sildenafil before and 25mg tadalafil daily before both with minimal effects. Once in Thailand I took 100mg of their Sidegra and that's the only thing that worked but I don't know where to find it or if there's something better. By taking all these I want my libido and sexual performance to not get any more depressing. Low libido and i barely have any sensativity. So Sidegra if i can get it maybe something else too?
What if any PCT/Arimidex or Clomid do I need to take if I'm maintaining my TRT dosage for the rest of my life.
Alot of info but turning to the experts. Smile

creatinehcl's picture

I don't know why nobody said it, but mental illnesses/disorders and impotence are not only related to the amount of testosterone/estrogen. Sorry if this sounds offensive, but judging by your writing, your problem has nothing to do with testosterone/estrogen/hormones, even if your testosterone is at zero and your estrogen is sky high. In Serbia they offered you Testosterone enanthate. Depo Galenika. That's the only thing they have in pharmacies. Both in Bosnia and Serbia you could get anti-aromatase drugs. You just had to search/ask by the name of the drug.

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Makwa's picture

You are all fiucked up because your test dose keeps changing and is to high. Quit trying to break the high end of normal. That is not healthy nor is it good. Keep in normal range with consistent dose and estro will be normal and mood swings gone. If you need an AI your test dose is to high. You are pushing the envelope with dosages and it is obviously biting you in the ass. Start adding more shit to the equation and it just gets worse. The simple solution is staring you in the right in the face.

Rosschestzip's picture

I think he also aromatizes like a mofo. He deleted the pictures but his lab work from the past showed very high estro, it’s not the usual units of measurement I’m used to but rough estimate I think was like maybe 80 pg/ml which i think is very high especially for 120mgs test. I don’t know how much other experimenting he was doing at the time so we can’t know for sure. I think he, more so then the average guy, shouldn’t be playing around, he seems very sensitive to estro sides and aromatizes to the maxxx. Also could be one of those rare cases you hear about where a guy uses tren like once or twice and then has mental issues for life.

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NaughtyBoi's picture

Go to the doctor and get on an anxiety medication, something to chill you out.

Tren will cause you to clean out a bar room in a split second, bad one to be on if your line of work. If you are still on it

ollienomad's picture

100%. I won't take it again. I stopped it back in my 20s. Which is why I now have a healthy respect for mood effects from medications/substances. Smile

I'm just super stressed trying to figure this out overseas.

DavosD's picture

You sound bi-polar as fuck, try seeing a psychiatrist. Also if you're test is prescribed by a doctor you should be able to travel with it...

JakeKO's picture

Yeah, but Dr’s want that office visit every six weeks. I doubt they would send him refills if he hasn’t seen them in a while

ollienomad's picture

Probably the anxiety of dealing with doctors overseas. I have a bipolar buddy, I'm not, I'm just stressed. I have prescriptions from my urologist but that doesn't mean that every pharmacy will accept it. Sometimes it's simple stuff, for example, you can't buy melatonin (sleep aid) in the UK without a prescription. It's 200.00 for a 15 min consultation with a private GP and then it's 45.00 per prescription that they give you since you aren't a citizen using their national health service.

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Did you ever suspect the reason for the mood swings was because you were taking trenbolone? What dosage were you taking in your twenties? Also, rosschestzip is correct regarding the use of aromasin being unnecessary on TRT.

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So the mood swings were happening when I was 35 also here in Europe. I was taking 120mg test cypionate weekly. then my estrogen skyrocketed. I've been trying to upload a picture of my labs but forum won't let me.

my estradiol hit 259.98 pmol/L and the pharmacist in mostar said that it was waaaay too high so i needed to take aromasin to bring it down and then nolvadex

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15 years later? You think so? I hope not, we’ll have a whole generation of mental cases walking around in about ten years with all this “tren hype” all over social media with the young gym bros lmao

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JakeKO's picture

They only thing I would suggest you adding under your circumstances would be Proviron. The best thing to help with weight loss is to stop overeating shitty food. Keep a better diet and the Testosterone will work its magic. There are very minor differences between Test Cyp and Test Enanthate. The only way to overdo either one is by choice. It won’t happen by mistake, as you would have to make a conscious effort to inject more.

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I haven''t heard of Proviron but will look into it. I'm a digital nomad so everything for me is harder when it comes to TRT no doctors in any country agree and it's a true trial to just get the meds i need because they all disagree with each other and my us doctor says he can't treat me over here.

i just figured enanthate is safer because it goes away faster and less chance to have extra in my system by accident with the half life. also take a look at the comment i left above:

So the mood swings were happening when I was 35 also here in Europe. I was taking 120mg test cypionate weekly. then my estrogen skyrocketed. I've been trying to upload a picture of my labs but forum won't let me.

my estradiol hit 259.98 pmol/L and the pharmacist in mostar said that it was waaaay too high so i needed to take aromasin to bring it down and then nolvadex

JakeKO's picture

Trust me, Proviron is the way to go for you. Also keep Arimadex on hand. When estrogen spikes up, pop half a pill and you’ll feel better tomorrow

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I’m confused why you like the cypionate from your doctor but not the test depot cypionate? And your mood really changes that much if you take just a little extra? You may be like hypersensitive or maybe I’m the oddball but my mood doesn’t change at all no matter how much I take. There’s a difference between me being on versus off but the dose doesn’t really change much for mood. Certain other compounds do but not test, at least for me. Is it possible that it’s like placebo and you feel that way because you know you took more? I’d be curious to see your mood if you didn’t know how much you were taking.

You should get full bloodwork done, not just testosterone but estro, and prolactin as well. Those things effect libido big time. So I’ve never used Cialis and Viagra for ED issues , only for gym pumps but I think you may your be taking way too much ED medicine. You should be doing like 10mg a day of Cialis and then maybe viagra on a special day but not daily Viagra plus 20 mg Cialis on random days. Also you won’t need any pct if your on trt for life and without bloodwork we can’t really recommend how much AI you’ll need regularly. You might not need any at all, especially if you stay below 200 mg and are only taking a replacement dose. Idk how your doctor had it calculated without bloodwork so I’m assuming you e had bloodwork done at some point, try and see what that looked like just as starting point, but that should definitely be your first step

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My thought process was that if I missed or dosed too soon then the whatever remaineder added onto the existing amount in my bloodstream. I started TRT in the USA from Urology Texas years ago then decided to try to live my dream as a nomad across europe but now i'm my own doctor because TRT is like a magical world to some EU doctors.

The only ED med that worked for me was when I took 100mg of Sidegra in Thailand but I can't find that anywhere online.

What do you think about the rest of my questions anavar? Maybe low dose winstrol or something else? Doctors in the UK suck. It's 250pounds for 15 minute consultation that they may disagree with and then 45 pounds per prescription not counting tests.

I know I have hypogonadism it's been diagnosed in croatia, bosnia, and serbia. i'm just trying to limit mood swings but help with a slight bulk and cut without my mood going crazy. i have a great job but it requires me to keep my cool on video calls negotiating stuff.

so suggesstions?

and also then i don't need to worry about pct?

like now if i take 125mg test cyp with one aromasin my dick is dead for two days. and i cant find a doctor because they dont' beleive in trt or charge an absurd amount and my us doctor can't help me abroad. so i turn to my brothers on here. Smile not medical advice but if i was your buddy how woud you help me. Smile

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Your dick is dead because your taking aromasin with only 125 mgs of test. 99% of guys won’t need an AI on that low of dose of test. Now most people would say you need to do bloodwork to determine if you need it or not, but I’d bet your crashing your estro and say you don’t need it. Or you at least don’t need the amount your taking. Your mods shouldn’t be going crazy at all. And if you don’t have high estro and your tanking your estro then I’d be curious if that wasn’t the cause for the mood swings as well. So dropping the aromasin could be the solution to all your problems and you could probably drop the ED stuff as well.
I wouldn’t add in any other compounds until you get this under control, more compounds is just more issues, so if your already having major issues, you’d be screwed to add in more. Even after you get these under control I wouldn’t go adding in more until you fully understand how this stuff works, your ideas on dosing and one ester vs another and building up in your system and all that kinda concerns me but that’s a whole different discussion

So first I’d drop the aromasin or lower it dramatically and do bloodwork, if you can’t do bloodwork where you are then, you’ll have to just go by how you feel I guess, and adjust that way but at your test dose I’m guessing you don’t need it at all.

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ollienomad's picture

Every time I try to upload my labs with my name and birthdate blocked out it doesn't upload with the information blacked out. If there are any specific lab numbers that are helpful I have labs from different gaps of months. Thanks again.

JakeKO's picture

Screen shot your pics, and then post the screenshots. Your camera quality may be set too high

ollienomad's picture

I'm a digital nomad so everything for me is harder when it comes to TRT no doctors in any country agree and it's a true trial to just get the meds i need because they all disagree with each other and my us doctor says he can't treat me over here.

i just figured enanthate is safer because it goes away faster and less chance to have extra in my system by accident with the half life. also take a look at the comment i left above:

So the mood swings were happening when I was 35 also here in Europe. I was taking 120mg test cypionate weekly. then my estrogen skyrocketed. I've been trying to upload a picture of my labs but forum won't let me.

my estradiol hit 259.98 pmol/L and the pharmacist in mostar said that it was waaaay too high so i needed to take aromasin to bring it down and then nolvadex

DavosD's picture

Maybe its time to stay home with your digital nomad ass and get your hormones in check smh...

ollienomad's picture

I've thought about it but I'd rather find a solution while traveling all over the world working remotely. I'm sure there are people who are diabetic who do the same thing and need a medication but still go everywhere. One of my buddies is a coder in Bali now needing insulin. My trouble is just figuring out the right hormone mix.

JakeKO's picture

LMAO!!!! I’m going to have to look up the meaning of Digital Nomad

ollienomad's picture

Every time I try to upload my labs with my name and birthdate blocked out it doesn't upload with the information blacked out. If there are any specific lab numbers that are helpful I have labs from different gaps of months. Thanks again.

ollienomad's picture

Definitely check it out. People who can travel the world freely while working remotely. I've visited almost 16 countries all over europe with my cattle dog while working remotely. It's an awesome lifestyle unless you have issues with doctors like I do. Northern lights in Norway, Beaches in Italy Spain Croatia and Greece. Parties in Eastern Europe. I've got buddies doing the same thing in South America and Asia.

I gotta say. I don't understand the vitriol and negativity from some people on here when there's someone just asking for some help. So I do appreciate at least you trying to give me a direction to look at with the Proviron. Thank you.

Rosschestzip's picture

So the labs don’t really help us now because these levels are always changing, so today your levels could be 1000% different then a year ago. So one thing is the difference in half life between cypionate and enanthate is insignificant in relation to system buildup and side effects, your going to use basically the same dosing schedule with both. But if your more comfortable using one then the other then that is fine. But as far as libido, ED and mood swings, I’m going to say it probably all related to the aromasin. I would drop it completely but STILL HOLD ON TO IT, just in case. You may aromatize A lot to have estrodial levels that high in the past. So you may need a low dose to stay in check but since you don’t have access to doctors your gunna have to play a guessing game. And if your getting mods swings no matter what then that may be a mental health issue that’s just being exacerbated by the hormone usage. I’d just take the trt dose of testosterone with nothing else for a few weeks and see how you feel, if your only issue is the mood swings then I wouldn’t add in the aromasin, I’d only add that if your getting more physical signs like acne, nipple soreness/puffiness and things like that. Like jake said proviron helps a lot of guys with libido and say they just feel a lot better on it. But just know that’s also changing your hormone levels more but hopefully for the better not worse. But if dropping aromasin helps everything besides mood swings then I’d keep doing that and handle it as best you can until you can get to a mental health professional. In the meantime maybe try meditation or yoga. Good luck brother

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That sounds like a lot of fun. Not an option for my old ass, but I do try to travel frequently. I’m still hooked on the Caribbean. Might start touring Europe in the next few years. My parents own two homes in Spain but I haven’t been there since I was 10 years old. I always wanted to visit Amsterdam, but they legalized weed in my state two years ago, so I lost interest, LOL.

Enjoy your life, Bro! It goes by very fast as you get older.

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Visit Amsterdam, I'm sure you still can't window shop for hookers in your state yet.

ollienomad's picture

Doing my best man. Just have to level out my meds. Happy to give advice or help on the EU. Make sure to bring all your meds with you before hand hahahaha.

Take a look at Rotterdam or the Hague. Amsterdam is cool but unless you crazy young kids it can get old quick.

JakeKO's picture

Don’t forget the Arimadex. Pop as needed, not as uncomfortable as Aromasin

Makwa's picture

Adex should not be popped as needed. Estro rebound since it is not a suicide inhibitor. The roller coaster ride just starts all over again.

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Are there any lab numbers that would be helpful I just can't figure out how to upload them with my name and birthdate cut out. When I crop it it still loads the whole page on here.

JakeKO's picture

Screen shot your pics, and then post the screenshots. Your camera quality may be set too high

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