posted Mon, 01/22/2024 - 16:13
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PLS COMMENT: Cycle of 600 mg C/week after 7 weeks = Free T of 1909 pg/ml and TOTAL T of 5625 ng/dl, ESTRADIOL 307 pmol/l
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Hi all, do the numbers in my subject line seem shocking to anyone?
Im age 41, 6' tall, 215 lb, 25% body fat.
I have probably packed on 10 lb of muscle in the 7 weeks I took 600 mg of Cypionate... but when I got my numbers I stopped.
I have been short of breath and have had some acid reflux, but those have been the only side effects... Also took anastrozole to combat estrogen.
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Take me through your process of loading up your shots and taking them. I’m wondering if you are taking more than 600mg due to how high test and estrogen levels are, so maybe there are some bad measurements to blame.
That test level is nearly double what I would expect most to score with 600mg of test so we just might have a math issue here.
Hi Makwa, thanks for jumping in. I agree the number is shocking. I am on Cypionate from a pharmacy... not shady stuff from online. Same with the Adex. The cypionate is 100mg per ml... so I was taking 3ml or cc twice per week for 5 weeks. Its the Free test number that is so damn shocking... Do guys see levels like that who regularly do cycles? Regarding the skepticism below... Im not a salesperson... just a regular guy, 41 y/o, 6'... BF might be closer to 20%.
Bro it's 200mg/ ml so your taking 1200 mgs of test weekly for 5 weeks. Could be wrong but I never got 100mg/ml test cyp from any Dr I went through and I been to more than a few.
The measurements are different in Canada. It's 100 mg per ml.
Ahh gotcha gotcha
Test levels are way too high. Not necessary
Get back on your TRT dose and research about diet and training. Sounds like a heart attack waiting to happen. Knock that bodyfat in half first before even thinking about running a cycle. That 10lbs is just bloat. How much ai are you taking now?
On my TRT dose of 200 mg per week, I was prescribed to take Arimidex 1mg for 2 days following the shot (ie 2mg over two days ). While I was on cycle, I took 1mg each day of the week... it clearly was not able to keep up to the estrogen...although I did not have any gyno.
Body fat way to high. That is probably why you need so much adex. Cut that body fat in half and you probably won't need any on TRT. 1mg/d is like 15x the amount of adex most people would need with 600mg of test to keep their estro in range and you weren't even close to range.
Yet another fat dude who has never had a proper diet for a day in his life thinking he'll get jacked doing steroids.
Seriously, you sound like someone who clearly must have a ton of really good friends and brings joy to everyone around them.
You had a coach for years and are still on 25% bf, then you decided to use steroids obviously without doing proper research. What is the logic in this? You thought steroids where gonna help you. You are learning now that steroids are not magic.
Hahaha. That was funny. I think some guys just wore out seeing the same thing over and over.
Dude is gonna get a heart attack and then they'll blame steroids as usual. Smh. He had no business doing steroids in the first place. And now he's pissed at me for telling him the truth. Fuck outta here.
Actually, I came on here for the raw truth. I am not pissed. I just find your personality and character come through the way you have chosen to word your comments.
Well thats the raw truth dawg, I'm sorry for being harsh. Im a dick sometimes not gonna lie. But its just pure annoyance at people who think steroids are candy.
The reality of life sucks sometimes. Thank God we can change it
Sorry, but that age, that bodyfat and that dose of steroids = heart attack. You seem to lack knowledge and every kind of basics to even attempt HRT.
Stop what you are doing, get medical help.
Then lose bodyfat, learn about nutrition and exercise. We will talk about 250mgs of test in 2-3 years. Take care.
So let's assume then that I really have messed up here - could you please provide me a bit more detail?
you started taking steroids while way too fat to benefit from them...
you can improve 200% of how you look if you read up on nutrition and exercise... anyone who takes drugs at those stats, clearly hasnt trained too long and clearly doesnt know about nutrition.
also the muscle you say you put on in 7 weeks is just water... no one puts on 10lbs of muscle in 7 weeks...it takes like 5 weeks for your body to actually start reacting on testosterone...
fastest way to fix everything would be a coach who can just give you a plan for everything, if you dont want to study all of that yourself.
The back story is that I have been training with a trainer for 3 years...without T and made almost zero muscle gain. Only when I started taking TRT this past fall did I all of a sudden see improvements in muscle gain and physique. So I wanted to see what a handful of weeks on 600 would do... so now I know... numbers are in the danger zone. But I push back on your conclusion that I have no idea what I am doing re diet and workout. All you know about me is what I have posted here.
Your trainer was straight trash. You can train yourself through YouTube much better than that
25% bodyfat is all i need to know about you or your trainer... in 3 years you could have been 6'0 , 190lbs, athletic, with full set of abs and strong... then you could have added some steroids and pushed 200-210 with a full six pack and at least a 3 plate bench for reps.
When did you start running your AI
From the beginning.
Fake
I'm trying to determine if you are trolling. I am a suburban dad of 3 and husband. Business manager... not selling anything. I have better things to do than come on a forum and make up numbers. Genuinely trying to decipher how my numbers shot up like this. Obviously 600 is way too much to be taking, though I don't find the sarcasm and "you're an idiot" type of comments very insightful or helpful.
I'm saying your arimidex is fake
Ok gotcha, sorry. No, its pharma prescribed by my TRT doc... unless pharmacy has fake shit.
Ahh no surely not.. what's your schedule for dosing ai/ test?
My prescribed TRT dose is 200 mg / week, Adex 1mg for 2 days following the shot (ie, 2mg adex over 2 days)... while on 600 mg / week I took 1mg Adex every day.
Estro is completely off chart. Heartburn sounds like tren. Wrong test reads trenbologna as estrogen
Edit. I saw your prior forums and "about you". Ok so youre not real but selling steroids? How much do they cost?
Im not sure what you are talking about re: selling.
Ya I wonder if the two posts about his test numbers are sort of advertisements, like “look how high my test levels are on this sources testosterone”
Hes trolling for moopie. Pm him and buy
Wow. If only my life was so exciting... but if I was in sales, why would I take such a sleuthy indirect approach?
What's moopie? Ask him for me bud.
Everybody wants some
Lmao
I assure you that is not the case. I'm genuinely looking for input.
Well if this are your legit stats and levels and you are concerned(which you should be). I’d immediately lower that dose,(come off) lose weight/bodyfat and see a cardiologist and get an ekg ASAP. Estrogen can be cardioprotective but I doubt there’s any benefit at levels that high and it’s doing way more damage then good. And being out of breath is a major concern and 5,000 test is way to high as well, especially at 40 and over 20 percent bf. You’d think you were a competitive bodybuilder on a crazy prep with those numbers.