posted Sun, 10/01/2023 - 19:10
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Bumping dosages a bit (test/deca/mast)
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36yo 5’8” @200lbs and 12%bf
Currently running
500 test
400 deca
300 mast
Considering bumping it up a bit
750-900 test
600 deca
400 mast
What are your thoughts? Is the bump worth it? Ideally I want to get to 220-230lbs diet is pretty on spot on (high carbs for the time being)
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I'm running same cycle 12 weeks in... just bumped mine up. Test/sustanon 500 to 750 deca 400 to 600. Mast 200 to 300. Using mast more for a.i. I hate to say it but it's pharma gear and feels nowhere close to the ugl, and last cycle I ran was ugl gear. I most definitely feel like the ugl gear was much better. I'm in about 10 weeks. Almost no acne so far. Hell maybe I'm crazy, I say bump it up along with your food intake and see how you feel.
Nice! How much gains have you seen so far?
I'm up 5 lbs since bumping up 4 weeks ago. Changed gym routine and diet up some too
Nice! What’s your diet like? I’m on 500 carbs 350 protein rn fats are fairly low but I don’t really track those that much since most of my cooking is pretty lean for the most part
Bump your food up not the anabolics.
What do you think is max for BF percentage you should go on a bulk with bodybuilding or aesthetics in mind?
Max BF%.....I wouldn't go above 15%. That doesn't mean starting at 15% though. A practice I like to use is cyclic bulking, pick a top end BF, let's just say 15% for example and then a low end say 3-4% lower so say 12% and bounce between the two using cycling bulking principles.
If you really want to be amazed at how much muscle you can put on while on cycle, I'm talking actual tissue not water weight, then get into the mid single digits, every extra calorie basically just turns into muscle. Most successful bulks are after a contest sitting at 4-5% BF. You will never gain more muscle in your life when starting out that low. that single cycle will put on more mass than multiple cycles combined the rest of the year. Run that same cycle with same diet, same training and you won't even gain a 1/4 of what you did starting it at 15% BF. If you start a bulk fluffy, you will just get fluffier, start it out lean and you will pack the muscle on instead. Don't think in terms of max BF%. Think in terms of how low I can realistically get before starting bulk and don't get more than a few BF% above that. That is how you truly build the most muscle.
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Shittt…. Well I’m at 22% I’ll read cyclic again, need to make adjustments. I’m assuming an immediate cut I have about 6 weeks left on cycle. Who would you approach it?
That may be off I don’t feel that fat I’ll upload some progress pictures. I used one of those electro impedance scales. Not sure if a ton of water weight fucks those up.
Never use impedance scale. Most worthless thing ever made. I was about 4% Bf before a comp and it was telling me I was 16%
To many variables that influence it to ever make it even somewhat accurate. 3 point Jackson Pollock caliper test is pretty damn accurate and easy to do yourself. $10 skinfold caliper from Amazon is all you need.
Great point! Sometimes I feel like I’m eating enough to feed a small army! It’s so much easier to over train than it is to over eat ------
Also remember, It is hard to out train a good diet
Facts! Thank you!
How’s this cycle feel? I have never done Deca or Mast. I’m mid cycle with Anadrol and test.
Si far it’s been great, lean gains for sure, deca tends to have some water retention but mast has helped that for sure, only issue I’ve had is the damn back acne, got really noticeable after week 8ish but it’s getting under control with red light therapy surprisingly enough i also started using benzoyl peroxide which has helped prevent new outbreaks a good bit. All in all I’m loving this cycle just considering bumping up the dosage some, but I’m unsure if it’s worth doing that yet, I got about 15lbs out of it since I started, this is week 15
Tanning beds can help with acne as well
Second on the tanning beds. Really helped me when I was younger and got acne on my back.
I’m definitely gonna try to tan on a weekly basis now!
I also got Isotretinoin which is supposed to be one of the best orals to treat acne but I’m doing a bit more research on that before I add more stress to the liver
Your profile pic - I’d remove / cover / blur your face to avoid “unwanted attention”.
20-30lbs of lean muscle is unrealistic. Increasing the amount of gear won’t change that.
Thanks for that, Idk why I didn’t even think about the picture --
And yes it’s unrealistic if we’re talking about it happening from day to night I know it’s gonna take some time, just want to make sure I’m doing it the most efficient way possible
Nope. If youre less than a pound per week then whens the last time you changed workout to shock new growth? Week what of cycle?
200lbs with goal of 220 would suggest a full year of thst goal of course with time off between cycles. But 20lbs is a bit unreasonable
I usually tweak my workouts every 6-8 weeks (not a major overhaul)
As of right now I’m on week 15 I started at 184-186 if I remember correctly
I know those 20lbs are gonna take sometime, we can say that’s just the “end” goal just want to make sure I’m not leaving anything on the table but rather doing the whole thing in the most efficient way possible (without hopping on tren right if the rip lol)
Week 15... of how long of a cycle?
Depends, at the levels I’m on I’m pretty sure it can go for much longer, (so I’ve been told) specially if I’m keeping an eye on side effects and all that but if I bump up I might add 24 weeks or so depending on how labs come back after 4-6 weeks (if I do bump up)
Hope this isnt first cycle. Lol
Oh no I was on a test only cycle before all this
Insane to jump from first cycle to what is more like a tenth cycle. Good luck!
What do you recommend?