+ 16 Right before dropping carbs
So this is right before I hired my new coach and he totally changed my entire program. Dropped my carbs significantly and increased my protein intake. Who new training program high volume. As soon as I’m done with our current diet phase I will post a progress pic. I was also running pureanabolics at this current photo but currently on another source. I was eating a fuck ton of carbs here and was sitting at a sloppy 240. 6’4” too. I’m down 16 pounds from this pic and recomping nicely. Just trying to get my digestion down which has been my main and only issue. I was on TRT in this pic and that which shall not be named as well as 2iu Nord and Geno. Probably eating 1000 carbs a day all jasmine rice, OOF!
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With that much of carbs especially solid food maybe your body has a hard time cranking up enough insulin. 500mg of berberine 3 times per day should help a LOT the digestion. I feel when I go too high in protein 1,5-2g I feel the same as you. But with all the food you clearly need a help from herbs.
One thing I just recently added was berberine. I do take a boat load of support supps/herbs. I will see if increasing the berberine to 3x a day will help. I appreciate the advice bro.
So you're on the good path. I have started at 1000mg and just went to 1500mg and feel slightly hypo per moment which make sense as I am very low in carbs. But for you with the amount of food you're consuming it might be a little help.
I’m willing to do whatever it takes at this point. When my wife started berberine she was shitting like a champ for almost 2 weeks lol. Guess the stuff cleans you out good.
What's going on with you digestion? What compounds are you running?
Im running sust 150mg ed, EQ 150mg ed, Tren Ace 50mg ed and just added in Var 50mg 5 days ago. I’m 8 weeks in on this current run and same time with my new diet with my new coach. 4 whole food meals with 6-8oz beef and or chicken 3 oz jasmine rice and two isolate shakes. I have a lot of gut pain, slow digestion, lots of bloating, some days my stomach is so bad I can’t lift. I take several supps for digestion as well and recently added Sunfiber which has helped somewhat and a nighttime Mag02 supp. But constipation really Tone. Aside from all the other mess. Not able to go regularly or when I do it’s nothing to write home about. Drink a gallon of water a day too. Digest aid revive betaine HCL etc etc
I am not your coach but red meat can sit for a very long time in the stomach, like DAYS ! If you're desperate and want to clean the mess ASAP you might go with Kevin Levrone old fashion diet white fish, rice. Once it's great throw in a little chicken, then try the red meat. Red meat I would save it for last meal so I dont starve during the night sleep.
Shit the Sus giving you serious pip? If not can you PM the brand if it’s not pureanabolics. I been using sus but it’s crippling.
Pm sent bro
From 2020 until recently I've had digestive issues, it was my stomach though not working I didn't have trouble taking a dump. My food was just sitting in my stomach and not emptying, it would make me quite nauseous and at the worst times vomiting. I had shit absorbsion of nutrients it's a miracle I was able to still maintain but I totally understand when you don't feel good in the guts it can be debilitating. I've discovered certain compounds don't agree with me anymore as I age. Tren definitely gives me these flair ups and I have a theory that digestive issues can be caused by overload of androgens or androgen induced toxicity. Tren is very androgenic. Oral compounds are hard for me as well.
When you were on only TRT, did you have these issues?
This sounds horrible btw brother. How did you handle it? How did you function say to day? We’re you using everything in the book for gut health or the essential.
I sent you a PM brother explaining a little more in detail what I was running at that photo which was taken 8 weeks ago. Do you think I should cut out the Tren?
I think Tren use actually stopped me absorbing B12 for a period of time. Never had issues before using it.
Shit well I think I’m gonna discontinue using it. Just seems like it’s causing more harm than good at this point.
I would cut it out and see if that's it's. My digestion is best on Test, EQ, and GH. these are the best compounds for me personally. I can use masteron with no issues too but after a week on tren my stomach goes to sleep mode.
I really appreciate the help Tone. Thanks for sharing your experiences too. I’m gonna wrap this tren run up and switch it over to Masteron. Hopefully I get some relief when I do. What your saying makes total sense.
I hope that we figure it out, I'm here anytime bro keep me posted. I wish there was a way to get more bodybuilders and guys who use anabolics with digestive issues to somehow talk and try to figure it out. Before Cedric McMillan died he put out a video talking about the same symptoms I had on his Instagram and the doctors didn't know exactly what was even wrong with him. I sent him a PM on there but he never read it...... If this is a real thing I figure out I will have it named "Androgen Induced Digestive Disorder". I think I'm going to start a forum topic about this
Truly appreciate you Tone. It’s so funny that you say that about bodybuilders too cause I know these guys have issues but they simply don’t talk about it or protocols or anything ever other than a “I take this shit drink in the morning for gut health” and that’s it. Or they will talk about a episode of bad digestion they had but won’t say anything else on it. I think by you starting a forum topic on this would be awesome. I think there needs to be way more awareness and exposure for bodybuilders. I mean, our whole life revolves around eating bro. Imagine if we can’t digest our food or have immense trouble doing so. It just crushes you physically and mentally. I get depressed when I can’t shit or eat or I can’t train cause I couldn’t eat breakfast from stomach pain. I think your involvement on this issue would warrant a lot of participation from fellow members as you are a long time respected member here. I’d participate on it regularly.
Just thinking back maybe a year or so ago a young body builder Hunter Labrada had digestive issues and he was drinking lots of shakes and even blending his food meals..... There's no doubt in my mind "androgen overload" causes this.... It's tough because there's been cycles I used a ton of androgens and was fine when I was younger. That's the thing about this, our bodies react differently sometimes to the same stuff we did in the past.
Ima fan of Hunter and I remember all this. He’s corrected it cause he doesn’t drink his meals anymore and looks amazing. Tampa pro win just days ago. Vigorous Steve has amazing content on this subject too. I need to find the video but I’m pretty sure he said the same thing you are saying now. It’s gotta be it bro.
Looking great man how u feel after eating that much rice I eat a lot of oatmeal for my carbs might have to give the rice a try love the jasmine.
Thank you legion!! The rice is like the easiest thing i could always get down. Well, I mean that I can just eat fuck loads of it bro. It digests somewhat fast so I’m ready for my next meal pretty quic.
Main reason why I like the oatmeal it taste good and easy to digest gonna start adding in jasmine rice just to change it up thanks man appreciate it.
Wow, looks great bro!
Tryin Murder, thank you for the kind words.
Lot of good mass to work with there. Dropping those carbs should really slice you up.
Makwa, I appreciate your encouragement. You been around a long time and your encouragement is valued.
I wish I looked like that from eating 1000g carbs. You’re looking like a final boss in a GTA game.
I appreciate the kind words Simon. Lol just trying to level up with you fellas.
dang dude, you thick.
Thank you Unc. Trying to get to boss level like you and the fellas.
Solid physique carnal!
Orrale Gracias!!
DamikeLooking Big, lean and mean. I live on jasmine rice! Always have a huge pan full of it on hand.
Bro, if it wasn’t for Jasmine rice I’d probably hate bodybuilding lmao. Thanks bro
Looking solid mate. 16lbs is great work to keep up good work
Thanks Push, appreciate you.
This is what years of effort produces, nice job man! I believe the term is “brick shit house”.
Thank you Drex, staying consistent is the hardest part in all of this. Well, that and diet. And this fuckin digestion. Need to start pumping up the colonics bruh
No chance we'll be sleeping head to toe in the bunk bed mate LMFAO Ya can see why no one gave you shit in prison Lol
Press where there’s a will there’s a way. Lmao
Looking great, Bro! I’ll get there someday, LOL
Jake you look like a beast bro knock it off loco
Good work fella.
Appreciate that Catalyst.
Look at this dude! All yoked up!
Looking good brother. For some weird reason you're physique and tatts remind me of that wrestler Batista. Hell you even have his shaved head lol. Nice
But anyways look, on fourth sentence from bottom edit out that iu and H- word that's right before pre and post workout. I know you've been gone awhile. Just looking out for you.
Copy bro thank you for the kind words and the head up. I’ll take care of that now
It's all good.
Got it
Copy... You bet