posted Sat, 07/01/2023 - 05:15
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-1 Is this cycle good enough to get a good physique without ruining my health?
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Forget about the deca i forgot it was a nor 19, I cab’t pct with it. Gonna keep it for later if i ever blast and cruise.
I use test p, with anadrol to have both kick in at the same time and have a nice kickstarter. I will time it perfectly for me to stop using drol when the test e will kick in.
I plan to bulk untill week 8, and if I GET A LIttle fat or wattery or if I want to get leaner i will cut on clen. Orherwise i will just keep maingaining.
stats 180cm
78kg 12% body fat
Been training for 4 years
second cycle.
I already commended it,
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Adex isn't taken daily. It's a twice a week AI. But more importantly, your second cycle should look just like your 1st. If you must add an oral provi would be the one. It's reasonably predictable w/minimal hepatoxicity.
A prop kicker is reckless as you probably don't understand esters yet and adding adrol is just weird. Why is there whinny here?
I’ll bet that the first half of the cycle you see some good growth. Then you’ll throw in the Winstrol and end up exactly where you started wondering what went wrong. Then you’ll question the quality of the gear, although it was all your own fault. I’m speaking from experience of making the same mistake. Pick one goal, and run with it. Either bulk or cut. Never both. The body don’t work that way. Good luck!
RustyhookerCheck his prior forums @JakeKO dudes a troll
That makes sense!
Why would my body won’t accept to cut after a bulk? Especially since winstrol help to maintain muscle and burn fat. It wouldnt make sense for me to lose muscle after bulking and cutting on 2 powerfull. Anabolic counpounds.
It doesn’t make sense,
I will only cut if i get above 13% bodyfat.
I will bulk, then i will cut.
The only thing that really burns fat is diet and training. If Winstrol burnt fat I would be in the best shape ever because it’s my favorite compound. After a good bulk you should pct and take enough time off to get rid of all the excess water weight and burn your fat naturally so that when you cut you will get the most out of the cycle and get shredded. You don’t have to believe me though. That’s just the way my body works.
Just seen Jo Lindner died yesterday of 'unknown causes'.
That’s sad. They’re saying it was an aneurysm
https://www.thehealthsite.com/news/jo-lindner-famous-bodybuilder-dies-at...
Man these guys are dropping out left and right. RIP
180cm
78kg 12% body fat
Been training for 4 years
second cycle.
Fella I’m going to be really straight with you. You’ve built no base whatsoever and are running gear way prematurely. 170lbs at your height after running a cycle suggests you need to concentrate on your diet, not throwing more gear at it.
I don't have a great genetic, even If I'm training hard.
I'm probably lower in b% I have been cutting for the last months, I'm pbly at 10% now. I was at 13% last time i calculated and i weighted 83kg.
RustyhookerSo everything @Catalyst said was correct.....
We're trying to tell you. Keep it simple, why be in a rush? No need to add various compounds at second cycle. Forget what ya heard, forget about what this other guy said and what he's doing cause all that's irrelevant to you. One to two inject compounds the most at this point. One last thing..you gotta think about the end game. You're just starting.
2nd cycle.....stick to test and keep it simple. In the end it's your diet and training that will dictate your results. Don't focus so much on "amount of compounds" which will just end up having you rely on them to achieve gains. Test/NPP if you absolutely wish to add another compound. Anything you gain from Orals like anadrol will quickly dissappear upon discontinuation of the compound. Best left for later on when you've exhausted all your options and are needing extra boosts. At the rate you are going...what will your 3rd, 4th, 5th cycle look like?
RustyhookerThats a second cycle? What you posted is more like 4th or 5th cycle. Cutter bulkers never work. Pct?
RustyhookerPrior forums and you didnt learn at all
If you are wanting to bulk on a second cycle I would personally go Test E and NPP and that way you can build up nice steady muscle through out the cycle. All you are going to see with the Adrol is a strength surge in the first 4 weeks that will simply disappear as soon as you stop taking it. Its a bit harsh for a second cycle especially at 1.5 tabs per day. If you are desperate for a quick bulk at the beginning Dbol is the better oral to go for - but then you are going to be disappointed for the rest of the cycle when the pumps, strength and glycogen load go when you stop running it Lol. However you could run it 30mg/day for 6 weeks no problem. Drop the Test prop as there is no need for it.
What do you mean?
I’m training for gains, i don’t care abt losing strength.
So does that mean i will loose muscle gains after stoping anadrol?
Anadrol is more a strength compound than it is a size compound imo, thats why I don't think it will fit into your plan well.
I heard a lot of people saying that it was also execellent for mass gaining.
And it was the best oral for mass with dbol
Anadrol will give you a great strength boost, so if you train hard, and eat A LOT of good food, you will definitely grow, although at your weight and body fat, Dbol would be a lot more fun. Although I think you’d be better off running test alone.
Anadrol and Winstrol are orals that are toxic to the liver and will raise liver enzymes especially at those dosages. Over time this toxicity can contribute to ruining your health so if you're looking for one of the "safer" cycles for a first timer, this one isn't it. Not with the orals. You're right about no pct with deca, takes too long to clear. Be safe and well.
Thank you, Second cycle actually, and that’s why i use liv52. To protect my liver. I’m young and in good health and my dosage nor the period of time used is problematic long term i belive.
That's good but even for a second cycle I don't think most would agree with anyone going this route. Matter of fact I know they wouldn't. First few cycles should be simple. But hey all we can do is advise.
It will be more diet and training than anything that will dictate what you gain. If it's a first cycle I would just stick to Test.
Don’t worry, i have that on check. It’s my 2d cycle actually
Do you think the cycle is good otherwise?
I'd rather not do orals, personally. NPP > Deca, shorter cycle length and easier to come off if something bad happens.
Cool. It says first cycle at bottom in stats.
I mistyped i changed it sorry