posted Mon, 05/08/2023 - 14:58
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The results where spread out on like 5 pages so I copy and pasted all the important ones into one picture, and im not real good at editing and stuff so it looks like shit. But if any of you bloodwork experts out there think im gunna die soon let me know, Thanks!
Edit: I realized estimated GFR got cut off which is one of the ones that im worried about. it was >60 ml/min/SA
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First of all bud what were your Liver results like - ALT, AST etc?
Yep the eGFR is defo a cause for concern, it should not be below 60 buddy. Ideal range is 90 to 100 and believe it or not anything less than 90 is graded into various stages of Chronic Kidney Disease. We do however lose 1 unit per year of our lives so the older you are the less it is likely to be, especially if you have done long courses of certain medications such as NSAID's which are bad for the kidneys as they cut blood supply off to them for periods of time. However if this reading is based off creatinine and you are a 300lb meat machine then it can be somewhat off! It looks like you are not though so this must be down to something. Do you know exactly what the number was?
No it literally said >60 so I figured that's just how it was rated, I hope its actually 60 and not way under like 20 or something. And I'm only 30 so I think its still supposed to be higher. I'm meeting with my doctor to go over all these in a month maybe he'll know what's up. But kidney damage is irreversible, isn't it? I never drink enough water and I know that's not good for your kidneys, so I really got to start drinking and maybe that'll help them out a bit.
Bro my bad I messed up here - early morning here when I read that and misinterpreted it wrong!!! It means your eGFR is more than 60
Not sure what figure it is but defo isn't less than 60 - Press will NEVER become a Doctor LMFAO 
Half of my patients would be comitting suicide thinking they are dying after seeing me.
Disclaimer: Dr. Press is not a real Doctor, if he asks to do a full anal cavity search do not take his word for it and seek a second opinion before consenting.
So, I used a gfr calculator I found online and I'm 98 or 89, depending on which equation you use, so I think the hospital I used just says over and under 60. So dr. Press gave me high blood pressure for nothing
Yeh sorry pal - I bet you were writing your Will out all morning eh?! LMAO
Yep there is one for Caucasian and one for African American isn't there? Its calibrated differently for African Americans as you are at higher risk of developing kidney disease apparently.
Oh shit I didn't even catch that lol, you had me fucking stressing lol. but it still isn't great probably, right? if it was 90 something it would say >90 or do you think this test just says over 60 and under 60? my BUN and creatinine where fine and I believe that's how its calculated maybe I can look up the equation they use and calculate it myself. And if they use body weight, they have mine all fucked up because it was done by the hospital lab and in their records I weighed 135 when I left the hospital last summer and now I'm 200. Damn at least you would've convinced me to start drinking more water and taking better care of my kidneys and maybe taking out a life insurance policy lol
Yep they are extremely important to take care of mate when on AAS, even more important than the liver essentially but many overlook this factor as doctors don't tend to concentrate on eGFR readings unless you are showing protein in urine (foamy urine in the toilet). Watching BP and HR are number 1 to watch out for so you don't blow your filters in your kidneys and then just general detoxifying via other supps works well. Astragalus Root, Turmeric, Cranberry extract, Milk Thistle.
Ya I've been really concerned lately about my kidneys. I think hearing about how awful dialysis is and the fact that your kidneys don't heal themselves like the liver does has just scared me. I also had a bad hospitalization that really traumatized me, so now I don't have that invincible attitude anymore. I always just kind of thought Id always be fine and if something bad ever did happened that a doctor or medicine could just fix it. And I recently watched a bunch of Leo and Bostin loyds podcast and leo's all about longevity and health and Bostin was really reckless and developed like stage 5 kidney disease or failure and just hearing other body builders' stories of kidney issues that have completely ended their lives or at least careers. I just think the combination of all that has just kind of put a healthy fear of health troubles, especially kidney problems, in my mind.
Stay away from tren if worried about kidneys. My cousin ended up on dialysis because of tren.
Im sorry to hear that man, I've heard other people say the same thing. and I haven't touched it in years, not even because of kidneys but because of gyno, and it never gave me anxiety before but I've noticed it with other compounds now that I'm older and I think I'm just more sensitive now and I couldn't handle the insomnia now, I need my sleep lol. and its too bad it has such a popularity on like social media and in the like "culture" or whatever, because kids are fucking themselves up everyday with that stuff and its the first thing they wanna run. I think it was the first compound I ran besides test and dbol.
24 yr old kid went from 150lbs to an actual 212 lb IFBB pro with multiple sponsorships within only a year. Now he is lucky if he is 140lbs soaking wet. Looks like a drowned rat. One of the elite with the genetics to make it there. His gym buddies kept pushing him and he was on way to long. The tren burned him out. He basically didn't even know what he was doing. He was back in town one day and showed up at the gym and asked me if I knew anything about tren because he wasn't sure if what his so called buddies were telling him was true or not.
So then what happened Mak as I assume he wasn't showing any signs of illness at this point - did he get bloodwork done and see his kidney results were bad?
No bloodwork. Just was feeling deathly ill and couldn't get out of bed one day. Girlfriend rushed him to ER and the rest is history.
Thats just horrible man, that's exactly what I mean, I wish it wasn't so hyped up and attractive to kids. Thats really sad, too bad he didn't find the right guys/guy that could've mentored him in the gym.
I thought exactly the same too mate in the early years, that I'd be alright and never have any problems because I felt fine. That invincibility left me too the first time I was in A&E with stomach pains so bad I couldn't even drink let alone eat, I had researched it and came up with the conclusion it was because of heart problems - so when the doctor turned round and said that bloods showed it was because I was nearly in liver failure level I was in shock. But of course I never ever took any liver supps and ran tren and Dbol for long periods and in high amounts too. The way I felt that day I would of paid any amount of money just to feel 'normal' again it was horrific.
I think there were several contributing factors with Bostin that destroyed his kidneys including running various peptides on trial for companies, but the thing that always stood out in my mind was a video online where he is being interviewed. He was joking around that his BP was always 200 / 100 plus even at rest because of what he ran, bud there is only so long you can run at that level before something goes very wrong somewhere. So just think of what level it was when he was training.
High blood pressure with a high protein diet will destroy kidneys. Period.
Do you think a high protein diet is bad for the kidneys with out high blood pressure? or with no kidney damage? I think I read somewhere that the only study that showed protein was bad for kidneys was on people who were already in kidney failure and that protein is not hard on the kidneys for the average person and it would have to be like crazy high protein. I dont know for sure but I dont think having 2 grams or less per pound per day would do any harm.
Let me start by saying I’m a pretty humble guy, before I open my yap I like to do a little research to avoid looking like a dick, or more of a dick. Thumbs up buddy, it appears the science has changed, and higher protein diets, with protein coming from a variety of sources may in reality lower blood pressure. The high protein diet kidney damage research has been debunked. I’m going to do some more research to understand fully, but thank you for pointing me in the right direction with the latest data. I wish I could give more than one thumbs up.
That was just the info I could find, I think the medical community still considers a high protein diet to be harmful but IDK. They often get things wrong especially with nutrition. The food pyramid is a joke, Lucky charms and a go-gurt is considered a healthy breakfast, But most hospitals, schools, jails or anywhere really just carb you to death, protein has become the bad guy somehow, so I think its really hard to get a straight answer on this protein/kidney dilemma. And I just want to say that in my eyes its one sign of someone who is truly intelligent is being able to say either that they just don't know something or admitting that someone else could be right. and Im not saying Im right and your wrong but I just really respect someone who can consider someone else point of view and whos mind can be changed when presented with new info
I truly appreciate that, I do. Of course there’s issues I’m pretty firm on, but that’s my superego, those are moral lines I have drawn, guilt, etc, but my ego is healthy. I haven’t gotten this far and stayed alive as long as I have by being closed to new ways of thinking or advice from others. You seem like a solid guy Ross, glad to meet you on here.
Ya you too man for sure. And I can definitely be the same way Im not always too open when I "know" I'm right lol, my girl swears I just love to argue. And one thing Ive gotten most from this site hasn't even been necessarily facts or information but more like advice and a 2nd opinion on things that I was doing stupidly or recklessly and I listened and its only benefited me, so far at least haha
I have asked multiple docs and perhaps the one I trust the most is my nephrologist. I was close to going on dialysis because of my bout with rhabdomyolysis and my kidneys really took a beating. I am now concerned about long term kidney health and of course I heard the wives tales about high protein diets and the effect on kidneys. To paraphrase, all the docs I have talked to including my nephrologist said you have nothing to worry about, eat as much protein as you want, it won't affect your kidneys.
I think if your kidneys are able to filter correctly there's nothing to worry about. I think its the buildup of urea that causes all the problems and if your kidneys aren't functioning then adding more protein is adding more and more urea and ammonia. So if your using all the protein your consuming there's definitely no harm, and even if you're eating more than you can use there most likely isn't any harm in that as long your kidneys are functioning properly. Thats at least how I understand the whole process,
You a humble dude Drex. Stay that way.
Oh ya I know he did horrible shit to himself but it was just kind of an example of what can happen even if you think your fine and young and "healthy". I read somewhere he was doing like whole vials and whole grams of new and unresearched random peptides daily and like no human had really even tried that shit before, or atleast no human studies.
I know exactly what you mean man, Id do anything to be as healthy as I was at like 18 or something. Im lucky (horribly unlucky also) that my health issue was from infection and not like long term damage, but it still rocked my world and now I need to be really carful with things. But I atleast know now to keep an eye on things and my doctors really good about running tests, if I tell him im worried about something he runs like a million tests. I just think its hard to understand, espcially when your young, that an unseen microscopic thing inside of you can literally be killing you and you feel fine.
TricepatopsYou want it greater then 60 preferably around 100 which means your kidneys are filtrating fine. Below 60 is considered bad.