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Hello Eroids Family (⁠•⁠ө⁠•⁠)⁠♡

I start a new cycle soon, like in the past with therapy dose for helping the recovery with physiotherapist and coach (sheathing muscle, strengthening and cardio box)

If all is well soon i have the possibility to restart the training at gym with all the stuff :-)

Actually i plan a cycle like this :

  • Nandrolone Decanoate 100mg / week
  • Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 50mg twice week
  • Sustanon 250 125mg to 250mg / week
  • Anadrol 50 (i plan 1/ day for max 4 weeks but i wait my results about hematocrit to start this compound)
  • Proviron 25mg daily (i up to 50 if i need)
  • Arimidex 0.5mg daily (if i need and depend blood work)
  • IGF-1 LR3 25mcg daily (i up to 50mcg depend the results/ feeling)

I did a blood test the 30.03 at 6:40 AM and i wait the rest of my blood work.

Actually i have :

  • 228,87 ng/dL TEST (Total)

  • 273 ng/mL Somatomedin-C

  • 1,708 µUI/ml TSH

  • 0,20 ng/mL PSA

  • 0,42 g/L Apolipoprotein A1

  • 0,82 g/L Triglycerides

  • 1,88 g/L Cholesterol total

  • 0,20 g/L HDL Cholesterol

  • 1,52 g/L LDL

  • ASAT (Transaminases TGO) 51 U/L (<34) 38

  • ALAT (Transaminases TGP) 70 U/L

  • Hematocrit 55%

Uptad :
Results from blood work sending 17.04
- Oestradiol 101,1 pg/mL (<39,8)
- Prolactine 7,9 µg/L (2,1−17,7)
(Chimiluminescence) 168,1 µUI/mL (44,7−376,6)
- Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)
(Chimiluminescence)
7,0 nmol/L (17,1−77,6)

So i add to the cycle :
- 0.5mg Arimidex (i try to cute with the tool)

I check in around 4 weeks estradiol, prolactin, hematocrit, test total, SHBG

If all is well i start the cycle next week, like in the past i write every injection and give at the end of the cycle with blood work.

I try my best to made a log (diet, supplement,training).

Have a blessed day,
Sincerely.

Lundgren -

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Up with last blood work !
I start the cycle tomorrow ❤️
I see to made a log here on eroids !
See you (⁠•⁠ө⁠•⁠)⁠♡

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Hello ❤️
To complete the blood work i wait :

  • SHBG
  • Estradiol
  • Prolactine

I wait the results to start the cycle if all is well this week !

Have a blessed day,
Sincerely.

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Uptad : My hematocrit are little bit elevated, so i start with only Test + Nandrolone + Proviron.

I give in one month a new blood work to check the this value, and if it's always elevated i see for bleeding in hospital (or if it's the time donate some blood).

Take care.

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sooo GOOOOD

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Uptad !
I start the cycle tomorrow !

All the stuff but without Anadrol, my hematocrit are little bit elevated, in around 4 weeks i check some value to see if my test level to reduce/ save or add, but i think 1ml have a good spot, maybe every 10 days (Propionate 2.5 days, Phenylpropionate 4.5 days, Isocaproate 7 days and Decanoate around 12-14 days)

I see to made a log here it's surely better :-)

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Hey (^_^)
Thanks ....
I plan surely a blood work at the week 6/7 and at the end too :-)
Have good day !

Makwa's picture

If you are going to run IGF-LR3 you also need to run HGH alongside it since it will cause a negative feedback loop and shut down your natty HGH production.

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Hey ! Thanks for your advice :-)
Unfortunately i will have to do without GH.
But next time i try to have both ....
To be honest i love GH single or IGF-1 single.
You have a particular protocol in your mind ?

Makwa's picture

It's like passing up free money by not taking GH and IGF together. They have a synergistic effect so 1+1=3. By suppressing your natty GH by taking IGF solo you will be losing out on the direct metabolic effects/benefits that GH provides. GH has a direct effect on nitrogen retention, i.e. muscle building/sparing, that does not go through the IGF pathway. GH also directly affects your metabolism by releasing glucose and fatty acids into your bloodstream making it immediately available for energy use. This essentially results in increased fat loss and more muscular energy output. Taking IGF solo suppresses all of this and you lose out on all of these benefits. Doesn't take alot but you need some GH to retain these benefits. Ideally you need to take both HGH and IGF to keep blood serum levels of both of them at optimum levels.

You need to cycle the IGF since it will downgrade your IGF receptors eventually. 4wks on 4 off seems to be the best protocol. I like to start out at 50mcg post workout since that is when the IGF receptors are upregulated and take along side some fast digesting carbs like cyclic dextrin. I usually do 50mcg first two weeks then 75mcg the third week and 100mcg the fourth week. You eventually build up a tolerance to it, hence why it needs to be cycled.

I can usually cut my HGH dose in half when cycling in the IGF. 3-4iu seems to work well. I like to take one of the GH doses immediately pre workout since it will then be peaking when I consume my post workout shake and maximize the nutrient shuttling. It also releases glucose/fatty acids that become immediately available for energy during my workout and seems to help with maximizing fat loss under those conditions.

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So my understanding was that igf-1 can cause cancer cells to grow more then hgh because igf-1 alone doesn’t have the negative feedback loop, so are you saying that if you take them together you no longer have to worry about that at all or does it just kinda help a little? Idk if i understand the process completely

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Makwa's picture

You only have to worry about the negative feedback loop if taking IGF solo. It will shut down natty HGH. Exogenous HGH will also depress natty HGH but you are still getting HGH and all the positive benefits so really no biggie. You don't need to take IGF with HGH, but you should be taking HGH with IGF.

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My friend again thanks a lot i see if the seller have some rHGH to run with the same lab this cycle and made a serious cycle with only this !

I uptad : my hematocrit and transaminases are little bit elevated i used mk677 10mg first week 25 mg second week, it's why my IGF-1 are little bit elevated normally i have around 120-170.

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Well, thanks for the protocol.

To be honest i dont plan rHGH because in the past when i tried pharma grade 2uis and 4ui's daily my IGF-1 level have up at more 400 but ... The TSH have drop like hell :-(

I planned only IGF-1 because in the past i was lucky to have a very good source that only offered IGF-1 LR3 in peptide and especially arimidex / aromasin / prami / clomid in liquid format.

I had very good memories starting at 25mcg and 50mcg, i remember that the vascularity was impressive :-) the price was a bit high but it worked very well.

It is for this reason that I wanted to try this IGF-1 LR3 with similar doses, because if it is good 25-50mcg brings fantastic effects (my veins are full like when i take dbol but without excessive water retention)

Thank you for taking the time to explain the protocol and your experience to me, it will help me in the future.

So if i understand well, i need to plan some T4 if i run with rHGH + IGF-1 LR3 ?

Actually the dose are for me good between 2 to 4 ui's , it's not elevated like bodybuilding dose (6-15 ui's daily)

Thanks again my friend i really appreciate your help and involvement (^_^) ~

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I have never had thyroid issues with GH, but if your bloodwork is showing something different then plan accordingly.

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Yes in the past i used a little cycle of around 28 days with rHGH like :
Week 1 : 2 ui's daily
Week 2 : 2 ui's daily
Week 3 : 4 ui's daily
Week 4 : 4 ui's daily
Test in a university hospital and my thiroid have drop like hell :-(

The same with insulin (but it was the nurse who administered in I.V) after 12 hours of fasting, every day for 15 days, after 10 iu's I received G5 IV followed by a meal rich in slow/fast carbohydrates and protein, the same thiroid have drop like hell and lot water retention....

So if i plan GH i need to think about thiroid and what compound are the best.

I try to take not a lot compound it's why i choose IGF-1 LR3 (with rHGH = thiroid and surely prolactin).

Glad for you if your thiroid are well, maybe because your stack IGF-1 LR3 and rHGH ?

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I sincerely hope things go well for you this time buddy

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Hello :-)

Thanks a lot ...
This time i try my best about the detail of diet and training, it's also important when we give any type of cycle ;-D
I hope your ok with your cycle and feel awesome !