Oxytocin/muscle repair
The start of June 2021 I tore my bicep muscle sparring. I tried to use various peptides etc. to heal the tear, but nothing worked.
A few weeks back, I noticed an article on how oxytocin administration for older mice/people will help muscle injuries. After 3 days of taking oxytocin, my bicep finally started coming back to life surprisingly.
I have a bad thyroid, bad testosterone, and a high ACHT that I’m taking test with my endocrinologist to figure out where it’s coming from.
My endocrinologist had no clue about oxytocin. I googled a test that they use to measure oxytocin levels and sent that to him. I was in his office and he didn’t even know how to order the test.
So I’m trying to figure out dosing protocol for oxytocin. I’m 37 yo, but I have a wide range of hormone malfunctioning issues duo to not taking steroids the right way in the past.
So trying to figure out how long I should take oxytocin and what dosages( #confused
Thank you for any advice
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AnonThis interest me a lot. +1
Then the factual arrangement with a Mod. Talking shi* about anyone in these forums is a grounds for people to stand down and agree with the Mods for future credibility with the addiction to increase karma, fake friends, and real or fake praise.
Everyone wants to be right, but when one thing or many things can destroy one or many of one’s credibility, panic sets in to not look like a bitc*
Im sorry, I shouldn’t be fake swearing thinking God is gonna let me off the hook with adding a ***.
When one goes from living a life as the anti christ, to beginning to live or try to live a life that Jesus lived, makes you value and continue to justify all your future actions with everything that you possibly do.
For what reason might that be?
***God putting so much fear into your heart and soul
Please forgive me my father
AnonI'm not here for religion. I must ask tho, has the use of Oxytocin made you more religious or spiritual? Do you think you are having any psychological side effects from experimenting on yourself with this research peptide?
Any hallucinations visual and/or audible?
After about 3 days I could feel it healing my torn bicep. Took for 10 to 14 days. No psychological sides were noticed. If you inject too much, you can get a headache or head rush. I ran out for a few days and didn’t inject and my arm still stayed stable at work and exercising. (Opposed to the previous 6 months of having spasms and not being able to use it with the risk of reinjuring it or having moments of spasms or pain.
Then after I started taking it again, a couple days into hitting around 100 to 300 mcg’s I felt a relaxed, really happy mood, being able to interject and be more social, as I am otherwise not.
My spiritual aspect of talking to my/our higher power hasn’t increased or decreased do to oxytocin.
Melanotan 2 and testosterone has the hormones and libido in overdrive some nights.
Back in 2011 I was running melanotan 2 and I got nice and dark, but I started getting new random dark moles everywhere.
I started taking melanotan 2 last month and my color is good, but I notice the moles coming out, so I’m cutting it down and switching to melanotan 1 and see how that will treat me.
Been on moderate doses of peptides since I had my IGF and HGH tested. Will cycle out in a couple weeks or so and see where my levels jumped too.
Do you or anyone else know if Bpc 157 causes an increase in IGF or HGH?
AnonI ran Melanotan 2 to tan well one year. Got a nasty scratch on my shin while taking it and it made a dark scar. Sides were more erections too.
AnonI see. Good to hear. Seems to maybe have an anti social anxiety effect.
"In order to find out the potential mechanism by which BPC 157 improves the healing of tendon, we performed a cDNA microarray in a previous study and the expression of growth hormone receptor gene was one of the most up-regulated in tendon fibroblasts treated with BPC 157"
Source:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6271067/
Lots of good info in that source pertaining to your question. Enjoy
@IrishMack check this source link, it's big and interesting.
I'm actually researching to get some in, I'll keep you in the loop.... it is really hard to be certain of authenticity... but not impossible. Post me if you find a trusted site first... it does help.
So the majority of places online that are selling shark cartilage are all fake or all underdosed?
Maybe God is also reminding me that I haven’t been taking triple strength glucosamine since my injury also.
As far as I’m concerned, oxytocin healed my arm. I’m good now. I just need to find a doctor who can test for it and give me a dosage protocol.
TricepatopsHow bad did you tear it? Most peptides you will get on the internet will not repair a torn tendon or ligament. There are stem cells and other stuff out there that you can see a doctor for that has shown success but costs at least $1000 dollars and on up. If oxytocin truly helped or Bpc 157 or TB 500 they would have been bought up by drug compaines or someone else would have made sure you couldn't get it because they would be losing money. These people who claim TB 500 and , BPC 157 works on a full tear or almost a full tear are lying. It might help with a small tear where the orthopedic doctor sends you to rehab to help and it does then those are the types of tears that will maybe be helped by those peptides.
tb500 and bpc-157 does help with tears in the ligament, muscles, and tendons but nothing can repair actual rips or if it tears off the bone. If it was pure bullshit you wouldn't see so many mens health clinics buying up the supplies like crazy right now. Take a visit to Florida, the home of the TRT clinic. I went on vacation there recently and they had fkn billboards advertising it. The price will make you take a second step back though. The issue is there is so much fake and bunk tb500 and bpc-157.
TricepatopsThere is so much fake and underosed peptides but it all depends on tear. If it is the type that can be healed by physical therapy then yes they can most likely help but to find real stuff and run the recommend doses it is still expensive as almost a dose of stem cell or some PRP therapy. But it isn't going to work on a rear that needs surgery that is what I was meaning to say. If this stuff worked like the mice or rat research this shit would not be out here for us to buy legally it would be made by big pharm for big profit. I guess maybe you could run them as prevention type meds? But the price to me isn't worth it unless you have alot of disposable income.
But this guy here has a full thickness tear which is pretty much surgery time and if he keeps using it eventually going to rip off from it's insertion site or wherever the tear is at.
RustyhookerCatalyst wrote down the proper loading of tb500. I got it for my dogs knee injury. But by time of just loading the 65lb dog i was going to be thru several bottles.
TricepatopsI would use TB 500 before BPC 157. Just because it obviously does something to the race horses. Pretty sure most racing horses get tested for it and if they have it in system they are disqualified.
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Holy shit this (Very long post) was the most meth induced Evangelical nonsense I've ever read on eroids. Get help. Go to your church leaders and discuss with them about your peptide conversations with God. Maybe they'll canonize you and add your doctrine to Joseph Smith's.
Haven’t had a cigarette, or an alcoholic drink, or illicit drug since June 20th, 2021.
Longest I v e ever been sober being in the free world. Not locked up in jail being sober.
I never copy and pasted this post to share with my therapist, there is probably not a way to retract this so I can let my therapist follow up.
Then the irony about things that I brought light to, were for the haters to justify the facts about the things that I listed that were all inevitably valuable to the economy to human life as we know it.
That fact that you didn’t and don t want to be looked at as losing this battle, only shows an indication that Satan has a stronghold on your perception of looking and feeling bad.
So who was the mod that deleted this post? Triceratops? Are you the Mod that is the weakest link?
I am the mod that deleted your posts, and I assure you I am no weak link.
That isn't a very long time. You're in your "honeymoon" phase of your "rebirth". Tone it down. Watch the movie Tommy, Pete Townshend accurately portrays what you're feeling now after Tommey (deaf, dumb, and blind kid) "Sees".
Your ego is running away with you, and you're destined for a fall.
Ever hear the phrase, "Judge not lest you be judged?" Is not Satan the great deceiver? who's ear is he whispering in mine or yours? Is this a comment born from love or judgment?
If you want to bend an ear PM me. If you want to evangelize, start a group. This is not the place.
So weak and miserable that you couldn’t let anybody else comment to get a feel for what the crowd actually thought.
Instead you felt scared and timid to hear people give indication of praise upon some of the ideas that would have continued to make you feel like a weaker pathetic piece of shi* that was showed up and didn’t have any validity in bashing oxytocin to begin with, let alone my long message that nobody was able to bash them damn self or give some kind of recommendation of factual praise that would have continued to eat at your ego and your whole life being a mod, trying to feel like the coolest link, when you just came in last place.
Does anybody want me to rewrite my post to get some true commentary that can be bashed or praised? Mod. Trying to play Judge over some real life shi* so he don’t look like a bitc* how do you feel about self right now?
That’s what happens when you think satan s your strong suite, till God s glory prevails in victory as he always does.
You are a simple factual coward at least or best unfortunately so. Period
This is not your pulpit.
I'll ignore your "holier than thou" rantings for now as you clearly are not fully yourself yet.
You are correct. I apologize. Please forgive me, God the father.
I know you pissed people off in the past but holy shit someone popped up and Greg or pale maybe even the big guy just shut them down. I think it was a pretty sexy pic of you until they went back to middle school with the name calling. Rusty rusty haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
AnonAfter Ben Greenfield fitness authored an article on it and went on Rogan talking about it the prices for BPC-157 went way up. It's not the secret it once was.
It's a damn shame too
Findings: There is a full-thickness rupture of the distal left biceps tendon associated with tendon retraction. The torn distal end of the tendon is retracted about 11cm proximal to the radial tuberosity . There is a mild amount of edema or hemorrhage along the bicepitoradical burse. There is a mild to moderate feathery edema along the myotendinous junction of the biceps.
It took me 2 months to get an MRI cause I had an ankle bracelet on for the law. Otherwise they would have done surgery:
In the past I could only lift 15lb dumbbells with my left arm, since I ve been taking oxytocin I can lift 20lbs. I can also throw boxing punches and use my arm at work without having any rapid onset of pain like I did before using oxytocin.
You can tell my looking at my bicep that it is retracted still. But now, I’ know I ll be able to box again cause of oxytocin.
Don’t have money for stem cells. Gonna stick to bpc 157-tb500 and oxytocin. Hopefully I can find a knowledgeable doctor that can guide me on taking this stuff though. Till then, I ll play Guinea pig. All my hormones are shot and messed up anyway. I’m on synthetic everything already.
Jus need to focus on moderation
TricepatopsYou know to run a good full cycle of TB 500 and BPC 157 and if it is real will cost over 500 dollars or more. Not saying yours might heal but I tried both of those for a torn labrum and they didn't help me at all. Also from what you listed about your tear I am 99.9% positive your wasting your money. Surgery looks like your only option if not willing to go other route. The only increase from strength be is most likely a reduction in swelling and adapting to the pain.
The thing is that I ran Tb500 and bpc 157 and it did not help. IGF Lr3 IGF des, GHRP 2, cjc 1295, nothing helped.
Ever since I started injecting 100-300mcg’s of oxytocin it feels 100 brand new. It s too late to do a surgery, the doctor said.
Where am at now with the oxytocin, I’m happy. I’m not getting the muscle spasm like I did in the past. Now I’m gonna google shark cartilage and try to find me some of that if the science sounds promising…
TricepatopsI would get a second opinion you have a full thickness tear. That means your tendon is totally torn through. Pretty much surgery is your only option. I wish you the best
I’m still waiting on a reply from the sports med doctor on oxytocin, I mean, your right, my arm is disfigured, it looks like I lost a piece of my bicep. I would really like that piece to fill out and come back.
I have an MRI on Jan 3rd to get an MRI on my pituitary, to see if that s what’s making my excess high ACHT. The past 6 months I tested my ACHT it has came up 74, 71, and last week was 63. With 60 being the cut off point.
It feels like I’m at 85-90 percent after oxytocin. After we do these MRI s on my brain and lungs and get rid of the excess ACHT, I could see my arm getting even better.
The only answer I have for why my ACHT has dropped is cause I started taking peptides that all kill cancer, on top of supplements that do.
But we’re not even sure where this high ACHT is coming from. God trying to put me in another trial and make my impatient a$$ sit back and wait and call on HIM. Yes, please give me patients Lord. This ACHT is driving me nuts!
The weirdest thing is that I got up in front of my church 2-3 months ago and told them, that God told me that I have cancer.
So I thought I had cancer in my colon. No cancer. Now I will feel like a totalidiot for telling my church that I had/have cancer.
I really hope I do have cancer. I already know God is going to heal me. He may be upset with me about telling the church, when I didn’t get permission to speak about this?
So I’m confused on what s gonna happen about the ACHT high production. Cancer or no cancer I’m getting my dang ACHT dropped so I don’t have any excess moon cheeks anymore Satan! How s it gonna make you feel after I clear that up Devil .
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Dang, and after 9 years, I was getting really excited to make the karma breakthrough and hit 9 karma points!
Nobody on here must be taking oxytocin I take it. It will soon start to jump off. That is for sure. Good day.
AnonJust obey the forum rules. Everything is explained to you here in the comments. You broke the rules.
In fact, researchers around the world are studying the use of oxytocin for seemingly every condition imaginable, including using oxytocin nasal spray to alleviate symptoms associated with mental disorders such as autism, schizophrenia and dementia. However, this research currently demonstrates mixed and inconsistent results, particularly regarding oxytocin's influence on social skills.
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AnonYour second paragraph is complete plagiarism. It's not even in quotation marks. It's copy and pasted from an article that you did not link. This is against forum posting rules. You been here 9 years you should know the rules. -1
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RustyhookerSo you know everything yet are here asking steroid heads for what reason? Do you see md or phd folks here to retort?
Reading your sumptoms above plus whatever youve not listed it dounds like grasping straws. I hope you find peace
Well actually I retorted, he didn’t listen…
RustyhookerStrange times. Its common to look for bigger answers to overcome major issues but i cant tell if hes serious or not. I need a nap.
No, I need to find a new forum or some doctors that have more insight. My endocrinologist wrote me a referral for a sports medicine doctor, but I highly doubt he will have any more valuable knowledge than what the World Wide Web can offer one.
Like start the robot or human studies already. What they waiting for????
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So you didn’t listen to me. Why would anyone else make a difference.
Here you go big fella.
The hypothalamus is regulated by what? The bodies natural responses. So when you slam yourself with women hormones, it’s going to go into hyperdrive and compensate.
If you knew so much about oxytocin, you would know it increases progesterone levels ten fold. Hence, the caber.
Your pituitary gland is responsible for oxytocin, so once you put that into overdrive it’s going to negate other hormones.
Argue all you want. Take the shit if you want. It’s your body and you’re the idiot.
If you wanna pm me and have a big boy conversation I’m all about it.
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Anon-1 for copy pasta without including source links.
Source:
https://www.eroids.com/rules
Here’s what I’ll tell you.
Oxytocin in the unnatural form won’t be as beneficial for a man, while men have an exceptionally smaller amount of receptors. The main use for it in women is the letdown reflex and the uterine contraction is just a great byproduct hince why Pitocin is used to increase labor. It was not originally synthesized to create labor, it was for women who didn’t produce milk.
As far as it being prescribed to a man, if your physician is going to prescribe it run away. No one I know with a medical license is going crush your pituitary gland further or hypothalamus on the slight chance it’s going to help with muscle recovery. You would have to take so much cabergoline to combat this, that you’ll feel like dying in no time.
There’s a reason why this isn’t a “big” thing in muscle recovery. The only established protocol for men and pitocin has nothing to do with muscle recovery so I won’t even tell you that dosing because I’m not in agreeable with you on this idea.
[Google- Oxytocin Muscle Growth} picture spells out the benefits.
So how might administration of this crush your pituitary gland or hypothalamus? What does cabergoline have to do with combatting what effect?
It sounds like we need allot more human studies for this.
The stuff is healing my injury that wouldn’t heal with Tb500 bpc157 and all the top healing peptides out there.
Systemic administration of oxytocin appears to rapidly improve muscle regeneration by enhancing aged muscle stem cell proliferation. ... At the young age of 3 months, the two groups of mice appeared to have comparable muscle mass and repair efficiency after a muscle injury.Jul 21, 2014
AnonThe overwhelming majority of what you said is copy and pasted plagiarism from this article:
https://www.kqed.org/science/19381/new-uc-berkeley-study-shows-oxytocin-...
Include the comment I'm replying to. Bottom paragraph is copy pasta.
Apparently you know more than me. Do you man.
AnonWhat sides did the mice have? Lactation and/or overly relaxed and gaping holes?
God made oxytocin the love drug to heal all of this world, in many shapes and forms.
It hasn’t made a main stream break through cause Jesus has announced his throne back on earth. Within 365 days, 7 years TOPS this drug will be healing people and thins for many different matters.
God has spoken
Anon-1 for trolling by injecting intangible and unsubstantiated faith based religious beliefs with zero demonstrable evidence, and zero predictive capability, into objective medical science. You're a kook.
RustyhookerOxytocin for birthing moms? Noone here will have that info. Maybe someone suprises us all.
With all the health issues you posted. You need jesus. Not steroids.