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It could of been in transit for 3,4, 5 months. Dont matter.
That first bottle is just going to get your levels up but to see results you are going to need to wait about 6 or 7 weeks. What Grow said is quite accurate from my experience. As for different color oils could be from the way it was brewed. The rules won’t let me explain but it’s possible to have 2 bottles of test and the colors be a little different. Bloods is your best bet. Before and after.
How can you gauge the quality of the test when it’s only starting to build up in 4 weeks and you’ve already started a new vial? No disrespect and this site is all about sharing opinions but none of what you say makes logical sense to me.
I started in June. It’s now August and I’m really feeling it. Do the math.
Were you on week 5 when you posted the comment, you mentioned a nearly a month and a half (comment 7 days ago). Actual dates would be more helpful and improve the chances of your information being taken seriously. Is this your 2nd cycle?
I’m not discrediting you, I’m only saying in my opinion it’s a tough call to judge a vial of test e in the first 4-6 weeks unless it’s TRT dose. Reason being it takes weeks for the ester to build up and if you’ve started to inject a new vial by week 4/5/6/7 of course it’s going to feel stronger, bloods have peeked saturation levels and the party is starting.
I know in the first five weeks of it’s good. That’s where I make most my gains. They seem to slow down after that.
Everything in this game it’s person relevant of course but I get some bloat but 0 real muscle gains up to week 5. The true building for me happens after week 6+ and floods in after that up until week 13/14 when they start to slow down I would need to up the dosages to keep at that speed or usually stop blasting and TRT.
Week 6 is the sweet and every time, week 8 I am very aggressive. On more than one occasion right at 7 to 8 weeks im rolling around in the floor with some friend I would never get physical with. Let alone try to hurt . Over some joking around nonsense. Then just as quick its gone and they looking at me like WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DUDE. I am unusually nutter than squirl poop
Haha I get that aggressive feeling as well but don’t act on it. My favorite part is with the women tho. They can totally sense the testosterone. The beta/insecure ones will call me a player and it’s a turn off. The alpha/secure ones love it and it’s the best feeling.
It can be a hell of a ride as things are getting started and you’re adjusting to the hormones. High test can get me emotional from week 8 onwards also but I’ll tend to keep things on the lower side now a days
That’s what I suspected. Happy you posted this because on the scale last night I was a little disappointed with the numbers. With just test I am usually heavier at this point so I was worried that i only have two weeks left until it slows down. Mind you I have only used testosterone only cycles sometimes with HGH, and deca once. Last time I used deca the gains came slow. So you stated what I suspected. Seems like with deca it kicks in later around week 6 like you said. I definitely feel the test. I used the same exact bottles and batch of test last time alone with the best results I ever had. It was from the ten vial promo he had. Ran it with HGH. Now I feel better going forward and can’t wait til week 6. What I remember most about the deca is how strong I got from it and how good I felt. Deca dick hit me already once and I’m adjusting my AI and caber dosage. It’s working a little better. Plus I have some sex pills just in case. I think the deca hogs all of the receptors so the test doesn’t get in there as much. This makes me think I should just run my test lower to not waste all of the test.
I was taking about test in general mate. I haven’t run it with GH which could completely change the gains/impact/etc.
I’ve ran deca 3-4 times and it’s really difficult to know when it’s at full saturation and kicking in fully. I do get very strong from it also and bloat up big time.
I’m going to give high NPP and TRT dose test a go for my next run, it’s easier on lipids apparently as say Tren or high test with ai usage and according to some members on here with solid physiques it’s a good mass builder.
I am trying NPP with EQ next summer. Low dose NPP with 600 mg EQ and 500 mg test. Npp maybe at 200 mg a week
I love low dose NPP. 350mg per week with a small amount of test prop and some mast is a brilliant blast. You’ll make some sick gains for sure
I’m trying masteron for the first time too. I have three vials of enanthate. I don’t like too dry of a look but not too wet. I like just a tiny bit of water weight. Makes me look healthy.
I’m with you on that, plus unless you have the genetics for it staying dry for weeks on end is tough work. I would include mast in most blasts but I’m thinking the money might be better spent on a years worth of GH
What dosages are you running? Dropping your test could amplify some deca sides. Particularly ED issues. Higher test can offset that issue.
I'm running test/npp 600/400 respectively, and I wake up rock hard every morning. No caber.
500 mgs of test and 400 mgs of deca
Exactly! Which is why I wrote this. I’m not unhappy just saying it was definitely a noticeable difference. I also really wonder if the 2 month transit mid covid outbreak had something to do with it honestly. Who knows where that package was sitting.
I’m running the same thing. I’m in week 4. The test I felt the sex drive increase the second week. The gains are slower but when I run deca it seems the gains come slower. I think it’s because the deca ester is longer. Also it binds more to your receptors. I used just test from dragon last time Same batch same product, I ordered these cycles in one order. My gains came faster with test alone. So it has to be the deca that kicks in slower. I was going to post the question asking if deca with test takes longer to kick in and if gains come slower it I think I alreadyy know the answer. Stuff is definitely good. Best I ever had.
That’s a good theory. I’m getting two free vials of test for the covid transit so I can’t complain at all. I ordered the 4 tests vials on same order. Two vials are lighter in color and exp 3 years (2021) sooner than the darker ones (2024) so I got two batches in same order. And I’m saying the darker ones are primo!
Yeah i should be more clear. My first time I could feel the sides at about 2 weeks and full effects in 4. This time In 5 weeks I had slight gains but not like first time and none of the normal high test feeling (boners, oily skin, appetite, aggressive mood, and ball shrinkage) after 5 weeks of first lighter colored vial. I did take Aromasin this time around but that shouldnt cure all sides just the puffy nips and water retention.. Im 2 and a half weeks on second vial when I posted when I really started to ‘feel’ the test if you know what I’m talking about. I’m used 250mg every 3 days. Im now 4 weeks on second vial and am just now getting boners ball shrink etc. Also way faster gains. I do think the first vial had test just not as potent like this second vial. My first cycle vials also felt like the second bottle.
I also ran 150mg of DECA with the test E first month taking every 3 days. Not sure if Deca would make things different but it didn’t add anything noticeable in my opinion so I stopped running it. Just on the 2nd vial of test E and feels good like my first cycle. Do I have scientific proof no just what my body is feeling and responding to.
When did you start your aromasin?
2.5 weeks in. I typically take it day after a test dose. And I have not had any puffy nips
I would wager that’s why it felt so different mate. You know your body but the test hasn’t build up enough to warrant needing an ai by week 2.5.
If you didn’t need an ai before why did you start one this cycle out of curiosity?
My first cycle I didn’t know any better and Aromasin is $$. But my first cycle my nips were always itchy and sensitive when I was dosing and the worst was when I cycled off the test I had the worst water retention in my feet. Like my feet were so swollen my shoes wouldn’t fit. And clomid didn’t do shit for that. So I made sure I had something this time.
You think Aromasin would make the test feel that much different? I’m taking half of one tablet so 12.5mg about every 3 days. After my test dose.
There’s a lot to break down here mate, it might be worth throwing up your own forum about this topic and also using the search function to read up more about test/ai/etc.
But I will say 12.5mg of aromasin in week 2 of a test e cycle would crash most people’s E2 and make them feel pretty shit. Usually speaking you don’t start an ai (aromasin) until week 4/6 if it’s even needed at all (which bloods will show).
I work in a lab at a hospital and my blood is run every week. (We use our own blood for controls and get paid 6$ for it lol) So I’m pretty dialed in this time. My first cycle I did not have a lab job or any bloods done.
Quiet the perk of the job! Did you have high e2 on week 2 of your test e cycle hence needing to take an ai?
Can you post your bloods so we can see the quality of the test?
It is lol I go back into work Monday and I can share the exact values each week. At the start my e2 was already mid-high range and test total and free were low range. I saw my test begin to go up and e2 go up so I took the Aromasin and my e2 went down but not out of normal range.
And by e2 I’m assuming you mean estradiol level