+ 1 Death by Promo?
Could you imagine if a majority of folks not returning to review Promos, died or overdosed due to ignorance? It was merely a thought, but I see it time and time again, cats not doing their homework and just going with what worked for "x,y,z" AAS vet/bodybuilder. Or worse, talking about "1000Mg of test" for a 1st cycle, "100Mg Anavar only 1st cycle (scared of pins)", and just yesterday, a beginner - wanting to use 3 compounds for a 1st cycle. I swear - people think that you just take a pill/injection and get a physique. This post isn't meant to shit on anyone, but could you imagine if that were the case for some of these Promos? Shit, not even just Promos, but in general.
I know some of these cats are just "free gear queers" and leave. But that's just retarded, considering it builds a relationship for future Promo potential. And it only takes a few minutes to review. Just running my thoughts for the morning.
Oh yeah, good morning.
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Very good point but hard to find any feedback on this.
Found this case study of steroid death!
"Death By Primo" uncanny resemblance to your title! Came up on google search of "Steroid Overdose" but had been on gear for two years. Soo not an overdose, but still a great "Case Study" to read.
His cycle was Dbol & Primo when he landed in hospital! Keeled over two weeks later 37 years old!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3939390/
You have to understand that we are all teachers whether we like it or not. Some of us will do it the way people tell us too, others will just do what they want.
Both are good. Both will give us feedback....
Cplvela0811You're right. Data is data.
Another huge tragedy of this hypothetical would be how difficult obtaining quality gear would become if overdose deaths were this common. The internet option damn sure wouldn't survive more than a few months.
Cplvela0811Well, if deaths occurred, I dont think they would leave a review for us to find out.
It was just a thought though.
That is true. I'm not knocking the idea. My comment was just an idea about what else would happen if your idea was a reality.
If there was a Yearly prize for most imaginative forum Title you'd definitely be in the running bud LOL
I can imagine, just let me finish my ayahuasca
Was wondering what happened to Big E after ebc. This explains it.
Cplvela0811The X-Files.
There not reviewing because they will loose karma for whoring.
Cplvela0811I don't doubt it, mate. Gear queers.
TronThat might be one of the weirdest things I've ever seen anyone post. What if they DIED that is why they aren't returning to review promos? If that were the case it would be a worldwide massacre and all over the news with that many fuckers. Or are you saying what if they died BECAUSE they didn't review promos? Like karma got them in the absolute worse and unnecessary way possible. KILLED them for not reviewing. That's funny in a dark way. but FUNNY. just in a dark way.
True lol
Cplvela0811It may just be my opinion, and bear with me folks. Dying ain't funny to me. But that's just my opinion. I am sure someone will argue with me on that.
"They" would imply "all", but I said a "majority" which is a portion of the reviewers. I also mentioned a portion being gear queers, and running off without a review. Something has gotta give with the reviews.
Maybe a tad awkward, but this is a gear/health website. If I was talking Aliens and ghosts...well...
The post is not calling Promos or AAS bad. Instead, I was expressing the lack of reviews and potential causes for why some reviews haven't shown up over the years. People not having knowledge or labs prior to running gear is a recipe for disaster. I am not saying it was everyone's case.
I also meant 1st cycle users and never included the veterans of the game (as they do know their shit).
I, personally condone AAS - if the numbers/labs are ok. Do I recommend it without knowledge? No. Hopefully these clear up some of the confusion.
Refering to the first cycles part of that post. I like the story of Samir Bannout saying on youtube his first cycle was only 75mg of Deca Durabolin a week thru the Doctor after 7 years training natty! My my my... How times have changed! It's now all about the "gear" & less about training/nutrition/lifestyle!
Pssst.. https://youtu.be/b94nxjwljqs
Video @ 18:15 mark :0)
Cplvela0811Man, these 1 compound cycles (without test) are always interesting to me. I've always been told to include test. Thanks bro. +1 for finding the man saying it himself.
I would rather sit with piles for an hour on the toilet than run a cycle without test.
Found another one for you! This time "Vince Taylor". Only 250mg of Test; mostly anabolics!
https://youtu.be/ptie9dx0GlI
You'll like this video too!
https://youtu.be/QSyXzKYGJaY
1 compound at a time
View @ 27:30
Nowadays guys taking roids before they start training, 16-17 years ago when I started bodybuilding all I cared about was to eat. I ate, ate and ate and although my training was bullshit I had results cause I ate enough...thats the key to get big !
Cplvela0811You're right. Most guys today will join a gym and start a cycle at 30+ bodyfat and bitch when you bring up diet and hard work.
Seriously?
TronThat's what I was just saying... Is that not the oddest thing you've ever seen someone post???
Cplvela0811I believe the poster started with "Could you imagine." The equivalent of "what if."
I understand the meaning of "could you imagine" although English isn't my mother tongue ;)
But my reply is still the same. Is this meant as a serious question? I can NOT imagine that anybody died by a overdose of gear after a promo and I'm pretty sure nobody else does...
Cplvela0811In writing, it's called an opener. Nothing more than a conversation starter. See what you did there? "I can NOT imagine." You used your imagination, just like me. I am sure folks probably didn't "imagine" that they could get cancer from HGH either.
If I genuinely caused your mindset offense, it was not my intention.
TronOh...Babies can also get cancer from zantac now. Like if their mom took zantac while she was pregnant. I saw it on facebook so you know it's true. They had a picture of an actress that was fake pregnant. And the doctor was like looking at her sternly yet sorrowful. Like he just broke the news to her. And she is holding her head like you would if you just got SUPER bad news. But in the way that maybe the kid has cancer...maybe the little fucker doesn't. Don't take zantac Bitch. And she's just taking all that information in at once.
Cplvela0811I think there's a probability of getting it (cancer) from your 1st tobacco product, too!
Tren E i.v. , lol!
Lmfao...
Cplvela0811Fuck, "could you imagine."
In the promo's it would be quite hard to get enough gear to run large enough doses for a long enough period of time to do any proper damage. They are also designed so that newcomers with low karma and have never done a promo with the source before cannot get more than $200 of gear generally. That would generally equate to about 4 Vials of Test E which would not be enough. The only way it could possibly happen is if someone took maybe a massive amount of Anadrol in one go or similar - But if someone is hellbent on doing it they will probably just buy it anyway. Same as if someone buys painkillers in a pharmacy it becomes their responsibility how they choose to take it.
Cplvela0811That's a strong case in point mate. Thank you for sharing.
Its funny they can get 2 bottle of test E and review as much as they want to suck up the sources butt.
Here is death by promo fyi
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/user-blacklist/promo-whore-blacklist
Death on eroids at least
And for those that don't review
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/user-blacklist/promo-whores-who-don...
And last but certainly not least those that review but do it so bad that it's just gibberish
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/user-blacklist/creators-of-shitty-r...
Any questions
Cplvela0811I see whatcha did there, and that's actually very fitting.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/promo-etiquite
Here's a post I made five years ago on it. I think I will probably update it with current info
Cplvela0811Hey, I'll give it a read. Thanks for taking the time to share with me.
Anabolics are one of the few drugs you can’t really OD on. You could take 10 grams of test and it wouldn’t kill you. You’d probably feel awful though.
Cplvela0811If I may, have there been studies for that, regarding 10 grams of test? That's insane. I do know that hypertension will kill you on it's own, and anabolics have a history of raising BP further and increasing blood viscosity. That impacts the heart and kidneys. Steroid induced cardiomyopathy and cardiomegaly (enlargement of heart) are real concerns for AAS abuse. We would also have to factor in genetics and family history.
I know you're most likely well and so are the vets, but I was more so focusing on the new cats taking incredulous amounts of gear - the wrong way and potentially explaining the review crisis (pure speculation tho)
Thanks for commenting big dog.
P.S. Are you bearded mate? I've been growing mine for about 4 months now.
Growin for the last 12 years or so. But I gotta keep it somewhat trimmed for work.
I don’t know of lab setting tests but guys have been pushing the envelope on dosing for a very long time. I personally know people running 3 grams. Anytime you use a base compound your short term levels are 10 times that of even a normal steroid cycle. I’ve seen 10,000 total test on bloodwork after suspension or base shots. But it doesn’t result in death.
You’re on the money about long term abuse compounding negative health, but all those things take years to kill. I just want to clarify that an OD or acute death due to too large a shot of steroids is not possible.
Cplvela0811That's some growth mate. I wish more careers allowed wizard beards.
Hypertension and heart disease are among the leading causes of death, world wide. For me, I believe that dosage abuse can lead to acute/onset ramifications. 3 grams is a lot, but still far from 10.
The heart is a muscle, like the biceps, except it's a cardiac muscle as opposed to skeletal. Our bodies grow significantly on AAS with a couple hours of training a day - including rest. The heart does not rest. If one can gain 20+ Lbs on gear, I wonder how much the heart grows in tandem. I feel for the ones always on (not considering TRT/HRT). But then again, the bodybuilder diet requires a high caloric intake, so perhaps sodium ingestion and AAS water retention play their part. Hmm.
I am sure genetics and family history play their part. Once agin, thanks for the reply.
You’re telling me mate. Some guys can have a neck tattoo at work but they can’t grow the natural hair on their own face.
I think at the pro level water retention is taken much more seriously. When you’re 300 pounds an extra 30 pounds of water can have a huge impact.
To add to your point on the heart, take into account the rising use of preworkout anabolics and igf1/hgh use preworkout. Spiking growth factors right when the heart is about to be the most used muscle in the body... this is one reason I advise if individuals go that route they do it for one muscle group at a time, and not blast a protocol like that all week.
Cplvela0811Ain't that the truth. We were born this way.
Wow, I did not even consider what you added to the equation. There are so many factors to examine. Talking to you is legit mate. No bullshit and keeping it intellectual and real like a true O.G. +1
That's some good info. +2
Cplvela0811Thanks a lot big boss. I appreciate that.
Manateeswimmer5678Unfortunately people do do promos and not follow through with reviews. I spoke to a mod here to make sure I was following protocol correctly and agree with everyone. It really isn't free gear because you need to fulfill your end by reviewing. Hope no one died as well.
Cplvela0811You're right, mate. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If a source can hook us up for 3 months worth of gains, the least we can do is give them 5 minutes worth of gains (review for customers).
Thanks for the request bro.