posted Mon, 11/25/2019 - 03:45
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First bloodwork after long blast-cruise
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http://imgfz.com/i/fhRgFyt.jpeg this is my first Blood work after 6 weeks off, currently with 50 clomid 20 nolvadex.
I have been in a long use of steroids trying to recover if its posible...thoughts? Te test isnt that bad but lh and fsh remain supressed...i Will do another bloodwork in a Month
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Be patient! In my case....The body resets itself with time! Your markers & levels will get better every month. Most people jump back on & don't give the body time to heal!
This and many other articles directly contradict what many on these forums are saying in regards to HCG use during post-cycle therapy.
https://www.theironden.com/forum/threads/avoiding-hcg-burnout-with-nac.1...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0376871610000384
My 2 cents. Either you didn´t respond to the SERMs or your SERMs were bunk. First, make sure you buy some PHARMA SERMS (50mg clomiphene is all you need and saturates the ER almost completely). Second, do another round of PCT. I would do 2 weeks 50mg clomid, 2 weeks 25mg clomid followed by 2 weeks 25mg clomid EOD. And I think your test is very bad, as likely your high SHBG elevates it. estradiol elevates SHBG btw.
As to consulting an endo, yes great if he is knowledgable, but I see you are in Europe and as I know first-hand, many endos here have absolutely no clue when it comes to steroid users and also it would take quite some time to get an appointment
Molinin302I'm not a Dr, but this is a topic I can add my 2 cents in. Take that for what's it's worth. You're off, but not horrendously off. What's your "blast and cruise" dosages? Exactly how long is "long"? We do what we can to recover, you can get good advice, but not enough info. Are you still crusing? What dose? Get specific. Long esters? Short? Deca?
Try adding HCG and HMG for the LH and FSH
While stimulating his testes that would just further supress both his hypothalamus and his pituitary. He has CENTRAL secondary hypogonadism, so the only thing that works is time and a SERM.
AnonConsult an endo, it is entirely possible to recover, but is dependent on the individual circumstances.
Best left to a professional!
The weirdest thing maybe be LH anda fsh im taking 50 mg of clomid shouldent be high?
Are you confident that your clomid is legitimate ? (Not fake, underdosed)
I cant be 100% sure no farm grade. The Blood work was been in the week 5 of pct. Pct was 10 days off, 1000 hcg eod for 10 days, then start 40 nolvadex + 100 clomid for 2 weeks and 20 nolvadex and 50 clomid for another 2 weeks finising now the pct maybe extend for some few days more. I still believe i can recover but the lh Signal dont understand if im off and taking clomid, maybe its too early?
In a similar situation to you... Any improvement?
New bloodwork done i ll Will Up later