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The lethargy is what stops me from using it - each time I try I back out after 3 days. If I feel lethargic and my bodyload feels like 25st I can't train properly even though the strength gains from it are probs the best of any oral. Setting PR's are no fun if you feel like death at the same time lol
Agree 100% man for me if it interferes with my ability to eat or train it’s not worth running unless it’s close to comp in prep. Not sure if you follow Jordan Peters but he always says the same thing as well. I can’t handle superdrol for too long either, usually just chuck in to break through plateaus.
Tell that to the world of powerlifting and B.B.
They agree with me - no one wants to run cycles that make them feel like sh** even the likes of larry wheels...and I don't know of any BBer's that care about PR's
Eddie Hall with his eyes popping out because of the amount of drugs he was on not count? Loads of bodybuilders care about PR, Ronnie Colman is one name that springs to mind. Professional BBers a lot of the time feel like death on the days leading up to the competition trying to set their own “PR” however not in the context you were speaking of.
jayiskEddie Halls eye didnt pop out. and it has nothing to due with the amount of gear he was on.
He was dead lifting over a 1000 fawking lbs.
PL gear usage is nothing compared to BB's.
PL generally just run gear.., BB's are running 10 different PED's.
PcushionPowerlifting is built around strength which takes time and little gear does help but true strength takes years. Bodybuilding is about extreme muscle development which cannot be naturally acquired in the fashion desired. One could devote their entire life to muscle development and do everything right and not get near the pros today.
Little gear????? LMFAO
Try a vial a day leading up to comp and not to mention orals
PcushionI didn’t say they don’t take gear I said it’s low in comparison to the cocktails pro bodybuilders take. Bodybuilders also are taking diuretics, insulin, tons of hgh etc. You don’t hear a lot about power lifters dropping dead of heart attack’s but bodybuilders are a different story. I would also be willing to bet that power lifters aren’t taking upwards of 1,500 mg tren and pumping themselves full of dht derivatives. Could be wrong but based of off pure number of people who drop dead from bodybuilding I doubt it.
Lol powerlifters take just as much gear as bodybuilders. They’re fucking huge and can make the average pro bodybuilder look tiny in comparison. They might not have the same body composition but they still need maximal muscle mass. I use to train at an elite powerlifting gym and talk to a lot of top powerlifters. They use to take grams of gear and orals before a meet.
Those photos of a B.B. next to a power lifter but things in perspective! The guys unless I’m a light weight class are monsters
They are insane, the amount they eat too. Most bodybuilders wouldn’t even get near the amount of calories they can put down.
I’m going off what press1 told mr Eddie’s biographical stated.
Where have you heard PL run less than bodybuilders From what I’ve seen from speaking to power lifters in person and reading online they run HUGE amounts of gear.
jayiskWhat i am saying is they both run high levels of steroids but BB run a lot of other PED's.
Such as excessive growth, slin, sarms, serms, peptides, t3, clen, diuretics..,some amphetamines..,other cutting agents, igf, etc.
Not saying either way is right. But if you want to be an elite or world champion., as many of them have said., they are willing to die to achieve that. That is generally the mindset of any top level athlete. to do whatever it takes to be the best.
I have read Eddie saying his eyeball popped in training. But until i see a video i would say he just said that to sound crazy. I can be wrong he is crazy bastard. But again if it did happen it wasnt because of gear it had to due with the high amount of weight being lifting.
Everything’s a contributing factor to it I imagine jay, all the drugs, food intake, his unnatural size, lifting a house all has a toll to pay.
jayiskMost people dont realize that Brian Shaw 6 ft 8 440lbs and Thor 6'9 430 lbs.., Eddie Hall is only 6 ft 3 and was 420 lbs. that is a lot of weight for that height compared to the other strongmen. Eddie Hall has already said if he doesnt stop PL at that size he will die within 10 yrs. between the food, gear, and training. i believe he is cutting weight now. Some of these guys started as PL's.
In elite PL most people are use to seeing the guys in the 287 and 308 lb weight classes. After 308 lb weight class it is Super Heavy Weights who usually are better known in equipped PL..,not raw PL.
Raw PL are usually jacked as fawk.
If people mistakenly think PL are fat it is because they are thinking of when equipped PL dominated PL for 30 yrs or so until around 2010 and raw PL made a comeback.
With multi-ply equipped lifting..,bench shirt, squat suit, dl suit.., getting fat and having a big stomach helped to fill out the lifting suits to make them tighter and they could use their big stomachs for better leverage on the bench and squat.
Eddie hall can obviously handle A LOT of gear and it simply doesn't bother him. The same with a lot of Pro BBers who can run insane cycles and still train hard where most of us wouldn't be able to move - they have high tolerances and still feel 'normal'. Ronnie Coleman was a competitive Powerlifter before he was a Bodybuilder so of course he cares about PR's still.
I agree with this, another component to these top guys being genetic freaks is that they can handle insane amount of drugs and their health markers don’t take as much of a hit as the average person would. They still take a hit and feel shit of course but they have the ability to push the envelope a lot more.
Weather he can ‘handle it’ or not it doesn’t discount the fact that when his eyes popped out of his head he probably felt like absolute shit.
Ronnie is a bodybuilder, like many others who care about PR although it’s not the main goal it’s still in their sights.
This isn’t like how they publish it in Muscle magazine, these lads are going balls deep where health comes second, weather that’s metal or physical.
I've noticed you keep being clever with me lately like the other comment from a few days ago - Is there a problem?
I’ve been clever with you lately? Com’on fella it’s eroids, we discuss things here. Don’t be weird, I have nothing but respect for you.
PcushionThese guys in reference are willing to sacrifice everything to be the best in the world. For me it’s amazing and dumb as hell all at once.
These guys/girls are pushing it for the glory only pretty much considering the paybacks in this industry. As you said both commendable but crazy.
Hey guys... Question: Is the USA Domestic actually shipped from within the continental Unites States???
PcushionI wonder the same man. 15 days on domestic is suspect. Good source but 15 is not ok with me.
PcushionI don’t see why they would do that but they went from being fast domestically to not. It caused me to start buying my AI from the same source I get gear. Which is cool, but Dragon was cheaper.
HA!!!!! Yeah man, I've ordered "US Domestic" before and received a seizure letter instead. Also had one to get thru but you could tell from the postage that it came from overseas.... Not real concerned about the long turnaround, just don't need another customs letter ;-) Have a good week my dood!!!!!
PcushionWell isn’t that about a bitch. Damn seizure letter from an “alleged” domestic warehouse. I am going to stay with who I use. I can order on Monday and have my package on Thursday.
I would think so
Guys first hand news I got in my mail
From dragon pharma :-)
They gonna make the sust 350 as Testosterone Blend on the label instead of sustanon 350
They will launc in few weeks original sustanon 270