Cycle Necessity?
Alright, so here’s what’s going on, last cycle I ran I was doing test, dbol, deca
Test e1000mg/w
Deca 600/w
Dbol 75/ day early cycle
Late into the cycle my willy broke down wouldn’t not stay solid for more than 15 seconds I immediately cut out the deca and used cialis for about a month and a half till I got the confidence to attempt at it without the helping hand
A bro told me hey man rule of thumb keep the test at least double the amount of the deca..
Current cycle
Test e 1250/w
Deca 400/w
Anadrol 75/d beginning of cycle only
Now is caber needed with deca being at 400 with such a high test dose and if so can dropping it to 300 void me having to go through the caber purchasing headache.
If I have to buy it I will nothing is worth going through the dilemma I went through before.. just wanna make sure because I feel that I maybe just overdid the deca and under the test since it took so long to happen
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Went ahead and grabbed caber
Well I did originally start off with 600 test 300 deca didn’t notice any crazy gains till I jumped it up to a gram I also ended out last cycle at 220 took a 6 month break and dropped back down to 200
RustyhookerEverything you just posted was 100% food related and gym related.
Good luck in your endeavors
basskiller891) way too much gear, for real
2) 500mgs test a week + an ai is more than enough
3) prolactin and progesterone are often only problems if E is out of check, if your'e using an ai and controlling E the deca shouldn't give you any issues
Those are some heavy doses. Throw up a pic. It’ll give the community a better idea on how to advise you, and I wanna see what a gram a week does. 200 pounds on some people is small, while 185 on others looks pretty damn good.
That’s a lot of AAS for your size my friend !!!
2 grams of gear a week,.........??
Your an idiot,....... any thing I might say to you would fall on deaf ears.
Geared up at 28,...... fried by 30.
Dude that's a crazy high mg cycle.. how many cycles you got in.. and your only28... you should chill bro those numbers are crazy
28, 5’8 and 200lbs and you’re thinking of running deca after you already had issues? You need to re-evaluate your diet not your next cycle.
Solid gains can be made with your test dosed at 600mgs a week. No need to be running 1250mgs a week that's just crazy. If you have been running cycles for many many years I can almost see you running it that high. I never understand why people always think more is better. In so many cases Less is more. You should really consider dropping your test down a bit. With you running it that high now what are you going to do 5yrs from now. Your body is going to adapt to that amount and sooner than later 1250mgs a week isn't going to allow you to make solid gains you'll to pin 5000mgs a week. Maby I'm over thinking it a little bit but I would highly recommend you drop your test by half my friend. With a proper diet and a sold workout plan you can move mountains with just 600mgs. Just my shinny penny's worth.
Totally agree bro... my plan is to keep doses as low as possible for as long as possible.. If I need to go crazy high for effect probably time for a break ya know man
You can say that again. Absolutely no need for 1250mgs of test unless your at the top of the pro circuit and had been cycling for a decade or better. Ill stick with my 500 and to be honest I probably could get by with just 4 if I'd kick it into a higher gear. Dudes natty levels are fried crisper than burnt KFC chicken. This day in time its always more more more when it should be less less less. Like I said above 500mgs with a stellar diet and a hardcore work out regiment and you got all you need for steady gains.
No bullshit bro the only time I go over500 is if my gear is doseed at300 Lol... he'll end up on trt young for sure if not careful... there is a lot of guys running tons of gear that aren't even30 I don't get it
Double post.
High blood pressure will nuke your dick just as bad as Deca. 1,000/600 test/deca ratio shouldn't cause ED unless you were failing to keep other hormones like prolactin and E2 in check. However at those doses there is a legitimate chance that your blood pressure was through the roof and contributing to your ED.
1,250/400 Deca is just ridiculous. Run it at 750/400, save some money on test and use it to purchase proper ancillaries.
Thanks brother will do
Not to mention anadrol is also known for high blood pressure
Very good point
Hello Sir,
void me having to go through the caber purchasing headache? So you have gone through the headache of buying hormones and caber is too much??lol
Well this is just a beginning as you will also need to go through blood work procedure to monitor your prolactin and estrogen levels to adjust your AI's. And even may need to do this couple of times to adjust the right dosage of AI's.
So suggestion would be maybe to stay away from hormones unless you are prepared to do everything the right as this sport doesn't just consist of couple workouts a week and few injections.
Regards
Red.1979these values are too high for me! I recommend lowering the doses and prolonging the cycle a little more. You do not need large amounts to raise testosterone levels. It is my opinion.
Why do you need deca. If the last time was so bad, just dont fuck with it again. Like these guys said. Do bloodwork dont guess.
Everyone is different so we don't know if you'll need caber or not . Your dick didn't work for a month and you didn't think about doing bloods to see what the problem was ? Sam is correct , over 1.5g is a lot of gear .
Seems like a lot of gear for a 200 lb guy...
Understatement??Lol.. And he's only28.. that's a lot of gear for sure bro
And where was the estrogen management? Prolactin levels?
Had arimidex on hand and took it daily didn’t notice any problems with estro, which made me suspect it to be a prolactin issue, is lowering the deca dose enough or is caber required
Taking a-dex daily could have very well tanked your estrogen and caused, or greatly amplified the problem. If you drew bloods this conversation would be about how to fix exactly what was causing it instead of what the cause may have been. Consider it a learning opportunity and have pre, mid and post cycle blood work done.
RustyhookerAge: 28
Height: 5 11
Weight: 200
BF: 10
Youre effin up. Big time. Whats your priors? Bloods show? Punch your friend in the mouf
You’re suggesting a drop to maybe
750 test
300 deca
With deca I’ve always been told to keep the test high which is why I was leaning towards being at at least a gram to be a little bit over double
There are pro coaches using deca only cycles on clients, that was alot of gear, test has alot of sides my best cycle was little test 350 mgs of sus 600 deca 600 eq, with properly dosed arimidex, caber ... and always have lettozole + extra caber on hand just incase you feel the onset of gyno ( whichif ur dick didnt work for a month u should reallllly be careful) and if ur that sensasite to deca, you really should statt with npp cause if it happens again those long esters are going to keep working, and are stcuk on letro and caber, essentially wasting a cycle or utiziling just a fraction of it. All because of the headache of research and buying caber? Caber ended up being an amazing addition to my cycle, i sleep better and the lady loves it when u can go at it again so much faster after round 1
RustyhookerBeing told is the problem. Whats your prior cycles? Prior bloods at week 5?
Thats where we gotta start bro.
I was tought that originally to, but if you do your research you will find everybody is different, i find i get more success keeping testosterone similar if not less than deca, and have you tried other esters? Never use a hormone that you dont have an ancillary on hand for
The last statement couldn't be more true
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I think many of us learned from mentors or experianced gym partners who have good intentions, but arent hip to more recent trends and science, many times experianced members here look like assholes, either commenting on a post that someone has made lazily before reading the rules, and clearly without doing enough if any research, the head asche in ur case isnt buying caber its explaining to ur woman why she cant get u off and why u need money to get your gyno removed, diligence and ALOT of research that we all have taken the time to do, and with that attitude trying to get you to realize just how important that is