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+ 3 Natty Pic - But Going to jump in - Getting all my goods - Getting prepared for hardcore training.

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Will post the pic results

Test only 400mg

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kotia's picture

I appreciate your views guys and agree with many of your observations.

I am gonna play it safe. Test 400mg 12 weeks , hcg 250ui twice week, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD , Letro in hands( I heard about test gyno , dont want those b*** titties lol ) , PCT ( Clomid,Nolva ). then break for 2/3 months.

Hopefully nice gains.

Thx all

Sam I Am's picture

Pull bloods in the middle. As lean as you are you may find you don’t need that much ai. There’s no way to know until you’ve ran it. Then you can fine tune it. Your on the right track.

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helloBrooklyn's picture

Natty ;)

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Dope's picture

Great place to start , nice and lean please not fuck this up man

400 mg test will give same gains as your propose cycle , believe me i not bullshit you

Respect

Dope

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growthman's picture

Dope always steals my words haha. Same .02 from me good starting point...I think your dosage is spot on from where you’re starting. +1 bro

333's picture

Now this is the perfect position for someone to start a cycle good for you bro but like said below just stick to 400 to 500mg test only you will gain a lot from that alone

kotia's picture

I know ,,, Changed my mind ...Will go for Test E 400. 12wk to see how it goes.

kotia's picture

Wisdom just spoke.

Thank you.

Sam I Am's picture

+1 for knowing how to train and eat. If you haven’t ran a cycle you’ll be surprised what 500 mgs of Test will do. Good luck.

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daksmack's picture

Hope you learn to tread eater for jumping in the ocean. As you will learn, less is more and more is more sides. You have no idea what your getting into. Don't waste your first test cycle with all the other side. My first test cyp cycle was and always will be my favorite. Experience that.

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kotia's picture

LoL Vets got my back. The sides are my main concern for sure.. Everybody at the gym is telling me the same...sides will go.to.the roof.. so I guess I will go.easy. test e only and put the rest in a box for now.

Thx

daksmack's picture

Hell yea. Keep that stuff for another time. Keep us posted

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RangerVet's picture

Wow can i offer you some wisdom?
If you start the steroid ride out at 2 plus grams on first cycle then what your cycle be in 10 years? You don't know how your body will react or respond to anything you have. Start with test enanthate or whatever you have. That's it nothing else. Then in a month or 2 you will know exactly how test feels and what is does to you good or bad.take a break. Then if eq interest you the a try dose of test try eq at low dose maybe 400 a week for 2minths or 3 months so you know what eq does for you? Break. Go back to test add proviron. You will grow. Your cycle please throw away. Listen to each comment and change your cycle. My 2 cents

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Copy that.. Ranger.. I know there are vets here. I respect that. Will think about it once I get everything handy. Still waiting on my deliveries

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LOL Same thing goes for Viking Genetics. .. Mostly traps are genetics, like calves ,, you got them or not.. No matter how hard do you train.. meant naturally, They aint gonna popped up like crazy if you dont have the genetics.. Just saying black genetics here, coz most well built black guys I know have traps. Not all of them sure but plenty of my friends.

I dont look for any advice. I had plenty resourceful tips..

Is that the 1st recommended 1st cycle. I never said. Nobody does. Is that gonna give me decent results.. Hopefully amazing.. if anything goes wrong and in case the body cant handle it I will just cut 1 compound after the other. And finish with Test and hgh only , worst case scenario.. .

Is Just an experiment I am gonna share. And I will post my results.

Cheers guys. And get pumped up.

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Most People goes with 1 compound on first cycle.. Not everyone. Is an experiment, I was really thinking about for long time. I wanna try a good cycle, with the most safe gear. Primo is very safe, need to be run in higher dosage, same goes with Eq, Test is just the base. Maybe Anavar would be an overkill. maybe wont use it at week 4, if the body reacts well to the other aas... and HGH is a bonus , to keep the gain, the recovery steady.

I dont want Tren, Deca.

Btw : traps are in my family for generations now...black genetics.

helloBrooklyn's picture

black genetics

That’s a new one. Usually it’s the burly white boys who have enormous traps

Sam I Am's picture

Black genetics? I know plenty of black guys that don’t have traps. Your an idiot for even saying that...

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ram500's picture

Just curious why you think he is idiot for saying that

Sam I Am's picture

Because not all black guys have good genetics or traps.

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Bill G's picture

Two grams plus hgh on first cycle. Bull shit. And I agree with the chunkypbnj.

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All my friends on juice told me the same thing. Just go with one or two compounds. You guys might be right.

But I trained.10 years from now and being natty is enough. I aint right now in the best shape in that picture, Is a hard work to keep an amazing body all year round... Some people dont believe me natty. is alright ..I told them wait and see, when I will be on, I wont lie. But you will never look at me that way again.

I would donate my blood at week 10.

chunkypbnj's picture

Waste of expensive gear. Why not do it proper and see what 5 or 6 hundred mg of test does before going with that way too advanced for your ass cycle. Oh and those veins on your traps don't say natty to me.

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Sam I Am's picture

X2.

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