Can someone explain why P.E.D are illegal
What your thoughts on why p.e.d are illegal
The government wants it to look like they really care about our health and well-being ,mean while the biggest killers in this world are alcohol and tobacco.
It dosnt make sense to me
The government really don't give a fuck about us
Alcohol and tobacco make the government so much money that it will never be illegal no matter how many deaths it causes a year.
Deaths associated with tobacco=more than 7000000
per year
Deaths associated with alcohol=more than 2500000
Per year
I couldn't even find 1 statistic for deaths caused by steroids
But I doubt it's over 100.
I reckon it's lower than 100 deaths
So obviously steroids and performance enhancing drugs are not illegal because there so dangerous or the government really cares for us
If that was the case alcohol and tobacco would be number one to go.
So some thing else is behind the ban on these substances
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Rustyhookerhere is exactly why
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/t3-suspension
Yup. Fucking idiots, that's why!!!
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RustyhookerHe's lucky to be alive but now he's a thyroid patient for life. Friends on thyroid absolutely hate it.
THIS LINK IS AN INCREDIBLE SHARE. It just reinforces that none of this shit is a game. Ever.
RustyhookerIt also enforced why I'm such the asshole for demanding stats and priors. Dude flew under the radar until his near death experience.
+1 for "being an asshole" (aka-making the very reasonable request to share stats, priors and goals, since you're spending YOUR time to HELP others). Don't give up. I won't either. This place makes a difference. A huge one. This thread, as well as the link you shared, are simply a few of the thousands of examples of how educational this place is.
Couldn't agree more mate.....well said
RustyhookerAmen bro!
AnonAt the rate people have children these days we need things to control population. I mean it your own personal choice to engage in harmful activities so in most cases it helps the big picture with population control. Most of my family has died from emphysema or suicide so its not like im just saying this to be insensitive. Its common sense that people need to die at a greater or equal rate as births, or start regulating births.
Imo they should be illegal ... ask yourself one question would you want your 18 year old son or daughter using them? The answer is no !! Now that said would I want my son or daughter smoking tobacco or drinking either no.
PowahDaveThey aren't really illegal, just heavily regulated?
Anything that can cause serious health issues including leading to death, needs to be heavily regulated
RustyhookerThey aren't really illegal, just heavily regulated?
How's that again? Not understanding you
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PowahDaveMany ped's are prescription drugs for illness but used for performance in underground circles... I suppose EPO is a good one to look at... its use under legal circumstances is for anemia issues, but in cycling as a PED. So isn't it fair to say most PED'S ain't illegal but regulated and used improperly which doesn't make the drug itself illegal right?
RustyhookerRegulated which makes the drug illegal without script. You can slice and dice the words all day but get caught with 2 bottles of any ped and you're going to jail regardless of use without a script. I cant think of any ped that is actually legal.
PowahDaveWell there is a difference between possession charges and the drug itself being illegal. The drugs status dont change but the suppliers might. Thats what regulation is I guess. Where I come from possession isn't illegal unless supplying or selling. EPO is considered a ped is a legal prescription drug for anaemia
RustyhookerWell hell then. Adderall is amphetamine and by your standard....legal as well.
PowahDaveYes of course but not my standards, by the US govt/fda's. It's another prescription drug. But go further, beyond the illicitly used and you have caffeine and the likes. Also a ped and only regulated for food and drinks bit not the suppl industry. Adderall is actually illegal in some countries like Japan. Pretty obvious difference. Point is... op may have been asking why can't we have a free for all... whereas there is already a line in the sand and for good reasons
steroids are a niche market,If made legal the consumer regulation expenses would outweigh taxable income.
Wait, steroids aren't dangerous? Shit. If steroids don't shave at least a good 10-15 years off of my life expectancy I will be very disappointed.
I'm glad they're illegal. It makes the clique more exclusive. Helps us stand out more. As far as talk about the quality of steroids improving with government regulation, I'm sorry, UGLs just need to step up their fucking games. There is no excuse for underdosed or bunk garbage. The government can't hold our hands on every goddamned thing. If they tried to I'd chew their arm off at the wrist.
Get that Boston Loyd mentality out of your head. Steroids can cause death. I know a few in my personal life who have passed and others who suffer from liver, hbp, kidney damage etc.... Now should they be illigal? Hell no
Death does not happen from steroids, complications from taking steroids is the death. It causes high cholesterol, high blood pressure, hypertension, liver damage, e.t.c. you dont hear about the deaths because of the above reasons. Most of the bodybuilders of my childhood died of steroids, but the cause of death was heart attack in the papers.
AAS will not be legal also because of big pharma.
Ah, but do steroids cause or exacerbate? Using a blanket statement such as "steroids cause kidney damage" is to me as fallacious as saying "behind the neck presses damages your rotator cuff." We all know people with good shoulder mobility can perform BTN presses no problems but people who have bad shoulders to begin with cannot. Is it the same with steroids? Two men can megadose the shit out of themselves but only one may develop kidney issues. That would lead me to believe that the steroids exacerbated a kidney issue that was waiting to happen just genetically. Some people just have bad luck from birth. My diastolic is routinely over 180. Always. Just genetically. With or without steroids. And on medication. What am I gonna do, cry about it? I've stared death in the face once and survived. I've come to peace with my mortality and whether I die tonight or 50 years from now means absolutely nothing to me.
The point? The government operates under the assumption that we all care whether we live or die
People like me are outliers. That is why they are illegal.
You must be in your 20's. Will see how u feel when u hit your 30's and 40's. Sure you feel invincible now, but take it from someone who has been there. There will come a time when health is a priority.
Health is and should be priority at all times...I've had my eyes opened to that over the past week
Medically speaking, you are correct. BUT if you know you have a medical condition or you start showing signs of having a problem and continue taking the medication, thats not caring if you live or die, thats stupidity. If you dont care if you live or die there are easier ways to kill yourself that are faster.
Not caring whether you live or die is NOT the same as being suicidal. Trust me.
Actually, I understand what you are saying. I want to enjoy life and live, I just won't have any worries if I die. Too many near death experiences prevent me from being any other way.
Yup
RustyhookerBecause the risks to kiddies and adults from injecting hot plate brews. No medical certs in preparation or clean environments. But med schools teach drainage of these occurrences.
damn rusty! thats straight up powerpoint and shit!
RustyhookerTreaments are learned in the classroom. Hormones in class was 3 pages and 2 exam questions. Thats pre-med for ya and why the PhD does your endocrine system. Specialized.
Sad part is reading the trt group over the years and many of the folks endo didn't know what the op learned there. Made their trt manageable and the op passed along knowledge to endo.
Damn rusty that shit can't be unseen!!!!!
RustyhookerScares me too bro. Try to do our best with sterility but the body can react with sterile abscess.
Hopefully the new folks see and learn. I too would hate to be drained.
LMFAO HAHAHA!!
He's a nightmare for this Lol.....gets the message across tho. ;)
Theink he posted a while back was a video of a similar thing......it was stuck in my head for days
RustyhookerWifey used to love assisting with boils and abscesses. I dunno why but she thought it was too cool. Its interesting but still.....
yes I saw the one with the guy missing half his delt.Nasty Nasty!!!
Unfortunately the reality is it could happen to anyone of us
Stay safe mate ;)
I guess the trick is to use the most reputable source you can.I always re- sterilize my oils with heat.The most important thing is to not ignore infection even for a day.
RustyhookerProblem with heat is that heat can destroy the hormone. Sterility and many injection points imo is key. Its all a risk. Even diabetics catch abscess sometimes and thats pharma. Body can just react.
Truth brother!Some of my worst pip was pharma.Quad felt like it had a fever.I never developed an abscess but I don't play, straight to Doctor.Truth is compounding pharmacies can fuck up as well.I don't care if I denature some of the hormone my UGL shit is getting heated.Plus you are correct sterilize everything and then do it again!
I take that back
I get you now
Well if it was legal then it will be pharma grade
So manufactured professionally
As for the kiddies they can put a age limit on buying p.e.d just how they do with alcohol and tobacco
RustyhookerImo .... it could be properly and medically done. Doc's used to do bloods, monitor etc. Hgh used to be used for ligament injuries. Folks got nutty. Fda got greedy. Just too much red tape.
The doc in a box monitors, bloods and prescribes at a huge price/cost.
Rustyhookerclearly neglecting his traps...
He has no friends willing to inject the synthol for him.
Rusty this post is about legal steroids.The shit this guy used to look like this is perfectly legal and always has been.Now it's a very bad idea but legal.
I didn't really under stand your other comment
So you reckon because of Greg valantino there banned.lol
Greg was a big momo/fuko