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Prolactin issues off Test E only. Should I use Caber?

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40 years old very experienced but have always avoided Tren due to my tremendous head of hair that my wife loves. Been on TRT for 5 years and this is my first cycle in 2 years.

That said I am now entering my 5th week into my Test-E cycle which is very mild at 500 mg per week. I was very surprised when I got my labs back that my total test was only 994 but even more surprising was that for the first time ever my prolactin was above the normal range. During week 4 out of no where I had complete libido shutdown and erectile dysfunction My pralactin was at 17.0 which is above so how much caber should I take and is that prolactin level enough to shut the libido down??? I posted my labs but here is cut a paste. Sorry about the book just first time having to deal with this.....I am now taking for the last week 12.5 eod of aromosin. I just received my caber and thank god my Cialis. How much caber you all thinking?

Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 108 HIGH 65-99 mg/dL 01
BUN 13 6-20 mg/dL 01
Creatinine, Serum 1.18 0.76-1.27 mg/dL 01
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 77 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
eGFR If Africn Am 89 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 11 9-20 01
Please note reference interval change
Sodium, Serum 140 134-144 mmol/L 01
Potassium, Serum 4.3 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01
Chloride, Serum 97 96-106 mmol/L 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 18-29 mmol/L 01
Calcium, Serum 9.7 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.8 6.0-8.5 g/dL 01
Albumin, Serum 4.6 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01
Globulin, Total 2.2 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
A/G Ratio 2.1 1.2-2.2 01
Please note reference interval change
Bilirubin, Total 0.3 0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 52 39-117 IU/L 01
AST (SGOT) 52 HIGH 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) 43 0-44 IU/L 01
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 994 348-1197 ng/dL 01
Comment: Comment 01
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.

Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
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FSH, Serum
FSH <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
Prolactin
Prolactin 16.6 HIGH 4.0-15.2 ng/mL 01
Estradiol
Estradiol 64.8 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01

giardap's picture

High estro causes prolactin to rise

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12stone's picture

Prolactin isn't that far out of range. Estrogen is. Aromasin needs to be everyday. I would guess estrogen more of a problem than prolactin. But that's just me. My prolactin levels get around that every time I run Tren and libido is fine but nips get puffy and sore. Where is ur estrogen usually at on trt?

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drewbaby's picture

My family Doctor who is 80 years old and has been our family doc for 3 generations. Since I haven't cycled in a few years he just runs my labs and says it looks all good etc. I never think to ask as I'm taking some pretty high trt at 200 mg per week with zero sides. I was completely shut down by my mid 30's due to multiple steroid abuse in the 90's as a stupid kid listening to the older guys at the gym pre-internet. When I was 20 I ran a 20 week Deca/Test cycle which has caused me problems since. I work with high level high school athletes and I always share this story and why steroid abuse is BAD and the long term consequences that accompany them.

12stone's picture

I would go to 12.5 e day on the Aromasin, wait a week and go get bloods. AI's work diff for everyone bloods are the only real way to gauge. For example Arimidex doesn't work very well for me anymore but was all I used for years. Our bodies change over time. Leave the caber until you get estrogen in check and prolactin will probably fix itself. Let me know if I can help, I'm no guru but try to speak from personal experience.

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Makwa's picture

That is what I would do. Get on a consistent daily dose of Asin then get bloods after a week or two and adjust dose accordingly. I wouldn't start to mess with prolactin until the estro is under control and then see where your prolactin is. Take one thing at a time so you can understand what is going on here.