First Cycle - 8 weeks - TEST PROP / ANAVAR
Before I get tore into about for my age and weight I know I haven't reached my genetic potential yet, but I'm inpatient. Also please be aware that I'm not native speaker so my English couldn't be so perfect.
The last half of the year I was doing research (online, guys in the gym) about what to chose for my first time.
I've chose this gear (see table) after that.
I expect (would like) to gain about 15 pounds of lean muscle and drop my bf down at 10%. (Currently have 15%).
Since I'm not afraid of pins I've chosen PROP for my 1st cycle (because of lower sides)
Going to start this cycle from January 2017, but opened this log now as I have some questions and would like to have all ready to go in January.
Questions:
125mg eod , isn't it too much for first cycle, would 100mg be better for me?
Should I run Pregnyl during PCT or just during the cycle?
| Week | Test Prop | Anavar | Arimidex | HCG Pregnyl | Clomid | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 125mg eod | 0.25 eod | ||||
| 2 | 125mg eod | 0.25 eod | ||||
| 3 | 125mg eod | 60mg ed | 0.25 eod | 500ui | ||
| 4 | 125mg eod | 60mg ed | 0.25 eod | 500ui | ||
| 5 | 125mg eod | 60mg ed | 0.25 eod | 500ui | ||
| 6 | 125mg eod | 60mg ed | 0.25 eod | 500ui | ||
| 7 | 125mg eod | 60mg ed | 0.25 eod | 500ui | ||
| 8 | 125mg eod | 60mg ed | 0.25 eod | 500ui | ||
| 9 | 500ui | 100 | 40 | |||
| 10 | 500ui | 50 | 20 | |||
| 11 | 500ui | 25 | 20 | |||
| 12 | 500ui | 25 | 20 |
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Too many compounds
Too little experience for said compounds
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Nope
Nah
Listen to everybody below bro their trying to help you, don't do this cycle.
Hey what's up bro. I think you should listen to some of these guys on the boards. There not trying to steer you wrong or stop you from getting big dude.
What there saying is, you have not put in the work yet to even assume your ready for gear or anything that's PED related.
I am Not sure if your looking for someone to set you straight on here or actually seeking the opinions from guys who have been in your shoes.
Your body is not ready for a cycle. Yes you can take one, and yes your going to change your physique/body composition. But as soon as you stop the use of anabolics, with your training background , your only going to resort back to your previous size. That's a part of learning the ropes to. Keeping proper diets in place to maintain gains while you off cycle..
I just don't think your ready for the blast and cruise life my friend.
You don't have a real base, and it would be very un wise for you to not just physically limit yourself but, mentally. I have had so many guy in front of me, asking for advice because, they have destroyed ther self confidence or ability to workout after comming of gear. . It is sad because, some of the guys have so much talent but, they lose it from phycological changes due to cycling before there ready. It's a real thing that people don't mention a lot on these boards but, trust me bro, you don't want to go down that road.
Get acouple more pounds on your frame. Get a better understanding for nutrition, and how to make gains without using PEDs. You clearly have some learning to do in the weight room to, so maybe it is wise to listen to the guys who made comments..
You will enjoy what you accomplished so much more and, you won't be battling to keep your size all year long.
It's your right of course to do what you want but, don't expect to get any real friends on here if you can't listen and actually apply the knowledge being passed on to you. There are guys on here with kids your age, don't expect them to not try an steer you in the right direction.
Side note. Who told you test prop was better for Beginners. Yes, maybe if sides start to occur, the ester is very short half life and, can get it of your system pretty quick but, the estrogen conversion is still a factor and, consider maintaining blood levels.
you clearly aren't getting prior E2 levels checked or blood work so, you need really consider these things. Also, PIP for prop can be not pleasant, it has has alcohol in it so don't expect peaches and cream.
Idk bro, my advice is to hold off until you are more advanced but, hey, I am just another concerned community member, what do I know..
"Open your eyes bro"
The reason I covet this site is because lucky for you, you have guys like us here who will do what we can to try and help you from making a mistake like your about to make. You don't need to run a cycle. You need to eat big and train hard. Since this is you first cycle according to what you've stated so far. You have no idea how painful test prop can be for a lot of people. More than likely you can be prepared for test flu, pip that you've never experienced before n your life and knots at the injection site that last for days. I will never run prop again because of the symptoms that I just described to you. You say that your inpatient.... well then you're in the wrong game. Plus on top of it all you want to run two compounds that are used for cutting not bulking. You aren't ready to run a cycle and I hope you don't. Good luck to you.
Lol here we go again..
"I've done research online"
"I've gotten information from people in the gym"
And here I am with a cycle that I know between my age and cycle history I shouldn't be running but I'll throw it up anyways. Sph kids. The younger generation is doomed. :(
I won't pick on you for your grammar since you said ahead of time it's not the greatest. Your at the age where there's a fork in the road it's up to you to use that big squash up there in your head bro. That's my .02
Don't do it bubba...
That is unfortunate. You are putting the cart in front of the horse here which doesn't work very well.
Sounds like you have made your mind up on running a cycle so I am out. Good luck.
So bro . I hope you are 26 as you said . I'm also not an English speaker thought we can understand each other good with our shit English .
Before I give you any advice about your cycle I would like to know few things .
What is your diet look a like ?
How many years you are in gym ?
How many days you train per week ?
And if you post one photo you will help us to help you ?
But in this moment forget about your cycle
Your cycle is a cut cycle to have a nice body to seduce some girls and this doesn't work in winter
Winter bulking summer cutting for expert bodybuilder
In your case answer the question above then we can see what we can do for you .
Deal
I am almost 27 to be fair and been lifting 3 years, had some gaps because of my shoulder injuries.
My current diet is about 200g of carbs per day(office work, IT department, cant raise it much) , 200g of protein and max. 50g of fat.
Currently train 4-5 times per week.
Mo - Chest
Tue - Biceps, Triceps
We - Back
Th - Shoulders
Fri - Legs (Lets say once per 14 days in gym and have football every 2nd Friday).
Photos attached.
U think I should get anavar off and go just Test cycle?
I don't grow if i don't hit all the muscle groups twice a week/ 3on1off. Try that for 10 more years.
Huge issue dude. If you can't eat, you can't grow. If you don't work, do they still pay you?
You are looking into this to much. Your gains you want over night. Well they will leave you overnight to. Your gains will basically be pure oils, and everyone you work with is going to know your taking steroids..
Yea bro . The 12 year old boys I triain eat this or more daily. If you can't up your calories because of work than your doomed.
Go back to the drawing board dude. no shame in holding up the white flag before the wars begins.
Excellent! Good looking out
You're working out too much and eating too little. Fix those issues before even considering gear.
Agreed. Everyone always has some lame excuse for why they can't grow.. in my opinion you don't deserve the gear until you start gripping more iron. And actually change your diet for an extended period of time. Like 6 months to 1 year. Maybe if you put a solid 10 pounds on and start having growing issue, then take some gear. But you look like you need to eat if you want to be bigger bro, if you need help with nutrition information or just to seek somthing more than you already know. I'm a message a way.. or I am sure even some vet or cool brother will help you.
I saw your photo . Why the hell you need anavar and prop . You need to grow man . Eat big train hard and rest well . You don't need gear bro really . You need eat .
So Makwa here . Catch up with him and learn . If you started your cycle then good luck . If not here is makwa get what you want to learn when he is in I'm out .
Nope.