adrol or dbol to kickstart
Yes another topic on VS. adrol and dbol. This is more of a bored at work / wanted to bs about others experiences. But in my unique situation, Ive tried dbol from raw and only did about 20mg for 2 weeks and 40 for the 3rd then ran out(something like that?. With my bulk cycle I`m going to run either adrol which will be my first run with adrol, or dbol and give it another go with something like 40mg for 25 days and see if that makes a difference. Although some places i read it says take it at a lower dose for longer but i want to kickstart my bulk cycle so i figured a shorter higher dose would be a better hand.
adrol> What ive read, is that its harder to keep gains but kicks in faster , also you see results quicker but loose a bit after (but im running a cycle test deca so i dont see the problem)
headaches and water retention is a factor.
dbol> basically the same but takes just a tad longer to kick in, results are slightly easier to keep after coming off(agan, im running a cycle and this is just to kick start)
water retention, gyno etc is a factor.
So help a brotha out, chit chat with me while I`m work ;)
Thanks for any real experiences and advice.
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Why are you kickstarting your cycle? I'm not a fan personally. After it was suggested to be patient and wait a couple/few weeks to let the oils kick in then add the orals I'll never go back. I've been getting more out of my cycles this way.
Ive already started my adrol dbol at 35mg each.
everyone is different i guess. Never tried adrol so you never know till you try,
Boston Loyd once did 200 mg Adrol for 8 weeks.. Just saying
good for him.
Thanks guys for all the great feedback. Literally cant get over how respectable this forum is.
And I kept diggin and might just run both at a low dose since ive read that could be an ideal plan since the dbol is a (antidepressant) etc.
It was a few other forums i searched it on and figured Id get your guys intake.
either at the same time for 25 days at 40mg of each a day, or
do the 2 on 2 off but switch the compounds maybe? that seems kinda cool unless it would mess your hormones up?
say start with adrol 2 weeks, then after take dbol 2 weeks and go back to adrol 2 then dbol 2. I guess thats a total of 8 weeks though so that may be a big fat no no.?
Keep an eye on your lipids. TUDCA would be a good staple if going that route.
your standard milk thistle isnt sufficient ?
TUDCA and essentiale forte. I don't mess around with NAC or milk thistle anymore.
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sorry i did a quick search and tried to delete the dam reply before anyone saw lol
thanks
i have used both compounds just like that and had great results............. i use low dose mast/provi combo for Ai purposes.... once you get the D.bol rolling you may have to double check your Ai and fine tune to suit.
hahah thanks guys for the advice. And it sounds like adrol ill try out just cause i havent yet. Running adrol for say only 3 weeks enough at 50mg ed?
for anyone that doesnt know, Im still 250 at 6` and a true 12%
Best to pulse it 50mg/d 2wks on 2 off. Adrol seems to build up a toleranceor whatever you want to call it real quick so better results are obtained in running in that way.
Yep............ definitely the way to run it
and for the guy below asking about Ai.............. it will not aromatise AT ALL running it this way in my experience
Thank you sir
does pulsing adrol like that have a noticeable " yo yo" effect on e2?..... not meaning to hijack the thread, but I think op will b running test deca also so getting the ai dialed in mite be tricky..( if it does infact convert similar to dbol)
Never noticed any effect like that. adrol doesn't aromatize like dbol does. Good chunk of bodybuilders actually use it during comp during carb loading with no fear of aromatization.
Thanx for the info
Dbol isnt that way correct?
And thank you, i forgot i read that somewhere before also.
When it comes to keeping gains that comes down to diet and training and rest. You should be training just as hard if not harder when it's gone. Diet, you should be increasing your intake the bigger and heavier you get and when you come off the same thing applies. Many guys come off and miss meals some days or don't eat enough to sustain their new mass let alone possibly gain more. Rest, is just as important.
When it comes to water bloat and or quality of size. Many go back and forth with Dbol is all water and look forwards to moon face and high bp. Sorry I call bullshit. I've watched many guys prep with it for fuck sakes. Comes down to diet, cardio, training etc etc keep a strict diet and don't shovel shit down your throat and you won't blow up and retain a ton of water and what not. Slip up and you'll look like the Michelin man.
Once again the blondes vs brunettes debate. Go for whatever you are in the mood for. In the end they are both women.
+1 for wisdom
i have kickstarted cycles with both compounds. Dbol gave me really bad bacne although ive never heard of this happening to anyone else from dbol. Personally i would try Anadrol. I have ran it a few times and the first time i ran it was when i got the greatest results. Put on 30 lbs in 3 weeks. My appetite was suppressed for the first 3-4 days but eventually wore off! Little water retention but if your diet is in check then you well be amazed man. Anadrol is a wonderful yet toxic compound so dont even think about running it longer than 4 weeks. Start off with 50mg a day. If headaches or other sides occur try splitting it in half and take half in the am and half in pm. Very strong stuff and you will without doubt see incredible results.
I love both, each has its own properties. Dbol doesn't necessarily take longer to kick in, more like it shows different properties sooner. But that's the beauty of an oral compound. They go to work right away.
As far as what Blazinghost wrote, don't be super scared of appetite suppression. People who tend to loose it from Drol tend to get that effect from every oral compound. Just in varies degrees. (Really sucks when this occurs. I am lucky enough to be able to not have this issue)
I would say to give drol a try, and see for yourself! Just how you did with Dbol. I won't tell you what to do or suggest doseage as I do not know you and your physique well enough, but if you don't run it at least once you'll never know.
Oh and the water retention thing is avoidable. Don't eat like shit, drink plenty of water (5-8L) daily. And add in 30 minute walks every morning before heading to work. This will drastically change the negative effects and you'll see it also takes away the big BP issues. Keep it in check though just in case. Everyone is different. If you start to notice it getting up there, drink down beet juice in the AM before your walk (if you take my advice). This will help naturally and also cleans the liver out!
I am a coach, and if a client does everything right and is lean enough a couple weeks out, anadrol is my FAVORITE compound to add into the mix. And when you see the stage shots... water is non-existent.
Hope this helps you out and keeps you from being so damn bored at work!! Ha
A bombs always tank my appetite, give me major heart burn and raises my bp drastically.
D-bol was better for me the water retention I can deal with my bp was slightly elevated but nothing compared to the A bombs.
I tried t bol this year and liked it other than it messed with my appetite as well.