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question for all u true vets, if u haven't had at least 4 cycles in please dont respond.. I have been using this gear since 2013 never had a issue except 1 time and they made it right, communication great.. Now just finished up 15 week cycle;
eq- 600mg/week (weeks 1-15)
test e 250- 600mg/week (weeks 1-15)
40mg/per day (weeks 1-4)
60mg/per day weeks 8-15)
through the cycle something didn't seem right, no real strength gains, diet was in check and body fat wasnt nothing to write home about but what concerned me most was lack on progress on strength and size.. Usually on test e at 500mg per week I get sweet results but not this time.. I went to have blood work done any anyone who knows anything about labs test levels normal range for Testosterone ng/dl 240-950 and mine came in at 778.7 way lower than expected my labs in the past usually knocking around 1100... Did a shout out and their explanation is must be something wrong with my body.. Tell me what yall think, vets only...I had almost 6 months since last cycle... Thx

Catalyst's picture

What is your baseline test reading off cycle?

england60's picture

i am usually hitting around 590-625, I have my blood run anywhere from 1-3x per year depending if I am running gear.. Just to make sure I am back to normal...

Catalyst's picture

Like Rusty said below, gear was bollocks mate.

england60's picture

yeah i have reached that level and higher when on good legit gear that why I was like something is not right, you know when gear is good your body will tell you...

england60's picture

yeah bro actually ran labs on the last week of cycle because I had to know if my head was playing games with me but u know ur body bro... Didnt want to run after cycle or pct cause that's not really gonna tell u shit.. When in doubt I run labs while well into the cycle, if its good gear it will show in the labs and then again about 12 weeks after pct to make sure I have recovered.... appreciate the feedback

PIN_CUSHION's picture

I actually got some of that during a promo on the cheap(should have known then) saw some suspect reviews and test so decided to throw it away. Wasn't out much. I'm glad there were people here like yourself who posted blood work, that kept me from wasting my time. Sucks it happened to you too.

zeb0312's picture

Yea the old saying you get what you pay for......

Sometimes it's just to good to be true and it is 90% of the time seems.

england60's picture

funny thing I got my stack on a promo and honestly bro had good results in the past.. I am out a good little bit have to throw all the rest of it out but it is a lesson learned.. I have only been burned 2 other times in 5 years so thats not too bad, pisses me of but thats the name of the game brother... We should all communicate on this site, look out for each other, hate to hear about people getting burned or sick from bad gear

The Impastable's picture

Glad you managed to resolve the cause of your bloodwork... all part of the game i suppose! Still sorry to hear your cycle was unsuccessful...

england60's picture

yeah bro, thats the risk we take with we deal with ugl, hit and miss!!!!!!!!! Maybe better luck next time...

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Wrong place for this. Post it on the source's page.

england60's picture

thx was just looking for feedback from some vets also, i did post on the sources page though..

PIN_CUSHION's picture

I would remove or edit this post. Can't post brand or source names in open forum. There could be multiple things that caused a lack of gains, but it seems as if you're just questioning the gear.

england60's picture

damn brother thx for looking out, just finished the edit, see if thats good enough.. You think I will get some experienced feedback or just keep it to the source page?
thx

The Impastable's picture

I think Pin is saying if you're questioning the gear then keep it to the source page. If you believe that perhaps there could be something else going on that caused these results, then you may get feedback here. I'd have to agree with Pin though, the structure of this post seems to be questioning the gear and would be better off on the source page.

england60's picture

thx bro looking for 2nd opinion on this page, already posted on the source page... I know it is hit and miss depending on who u use it come with the territory... Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me... its all good

PIN_CUSHION's picture

At what point in your cycle did you get blood work? and have you been doing a PCT after each cycle?

england60's picture

yeah bro i dont mess around and always do the pct at the right time at least 2-3 weeks after last injection.. i got the labs when I was in the cycle because it just didnt seem like it was kicking in right, poor results... I got them done around week 15 while everything was fresh in my system...started pct last week and when done with pct will wait about 12 weeks to have more blood done.. This is my normal routine and never had a issue with being up when on gear and stabilizing when its all done...thx

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Well just simply speaking on test results those numbers do seem low for 600 a week. You're not the only one I've seen post low numbers with that particular lab. Taking labs the last week of your cycle is different. What was your pinning schedule and how long after an injection did you take your test?

england60's picture

thats all I am looking for brother is just second opinion, i am usually in tune with my body and I can tell when gear is good from the gym time and personal along with the changes in strength and body composition and thats why I was like hold the :fu" something is not right... appreciate the feedback.. It is the risk we take and hopefully a lesson learned....