posted Tue, 04/12/2016 - 07:12
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-1 To cruise or not to cruise?
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I have returned to training after a 15 year break. I had limited success with gear when I was younger mostly due to financial limitations. I have been on what some would call a never ending cycle for the past 15 months. I have made good gains from 135lbs (18-20%) up to 185lbs (14-16%) but I am scared to come off completely. I vary doses and products greatly. My winter cycle was the classic 750 test C a week, 500 Deca a week, with the first 8 weeks of 50 mg D bol daily. I am down to 80 mg test prop EOD now and maintaining reasonable well. I am planning to cruise for 90 days then hit a big one again. Thoughts?
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Quit wasting our time.
More great advice from King Pin Cushion....I bow to thee
Get on your knees.
Can I lay down in your squat rack and enjoy your tantalizing rump over my grille when you squat 10,000lbs m'lord?!
lol
Now now boys, you can't be posting up all provocatively on the open forums without having room for another!
Let me get this straight. LOL You're telling me you started out with a lean body mass of 108 lbs (135 @ 20%) and are now sitting with a LBM of 159 lbs (185 @ 14%). That's a gain of 51 lbs. of pure lean muscle mass in 15 months.
Bro, you need to be on the speaking circuit writing books killing it on the social media outlets and educating the weight training world on how to get it done. What you have accomplished is beyond incredible. I want to learn from you bro - everything - training, diet, chemicals. I'm in awe and humbled by your greatness. Please post some before and after pics so I can soak this in. We all need to understand how you did this. I have busted my ass in the gym and at no point in 15 years ever put on 50 lbs of muscle in a little over a year. I don't know anybody that has ever done this. We need to get the mods to upgrade your tag from new basic to guru immediately. We need to upgrade your karma to at least 1,000 for openers. I'm speechless. I so hope you're not a f_ing lying sniveling piece of s__t.
That was a poor life decision.
135lbs with 20%bf?
I say Troll alert!!!!
You missed the part where I'm up over 50 lbs from my base weight. Who can say that truthfully? I see guys at 230 who weight 200 naturally, Big deal. I'm a skinny fat guy who's made a total transformation. Hats off to all the genetically gifted guys who gain 30 lbs. LOL
I went from 105 to 180 with no gear in wait for it.... 1,and half years with strait food and pure dedication that 50 pound increase for noob gains isn't going to impress anyone one here bub. People aren't impressed with my 75 pound noob gains lmao
RustyhookerIm gonna agree. This guys ridiculous.
See your Dr. Seems like you want someone to tell you to stay on. You'll have to make that decision yourself. I wouldn't advise it to anyone especially someone who's just back to training after 15 years and has been on for almost a year and a half. You could have easily gained mass coming from 135 without AAS.
I appreciate the advice. I 'm not an easy gainer and 50 lbs naturally is not possible for me.
RustyhookerNo. You're just lazy.
Age: 39Height: 5'9Weight: 185lbsBF:
bigmurphThere is alot more that we need to know but from what I got from what you say above. Sounds like you are now a candidate for trt. I always say come off your body needs it. You might be passed that point though bloods are definitely needed and a strong pct to see if you can bring your natural test back.
What if I stay on low dose. Self administered trt until I blast again. I am ok with needing trt long term.Down side? Will my gain slow/stop?
bigmurphYour receptors just like with any drug will start to burn out. If you are going to do trt atleast get bloods but I always recommend a doc supervised atleast to start.
I still recommend coming off going natty for awhile and then get back on. It is better this way in my opinion. This is why I haven't gone to trt. I like to get on a fresh cycle and feel the gains. I don't blast and cruise but I imagine that you would get better results coming on and off.
Down side also are the sides from longterm use on the body.
Richard.SimmonsStats, No PCT ? You'll probably be on TRT... What about bloods ?
Not planning PCT. Self administered TRT with semi annual blasts. Bad idea?
Yes. Unless your doctor is prescribing it for you because your levels are terrible, why would you want to self administer TRT..... You're only 39 man, there's guys on here older than you who wish they had the ability to PCT....