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+ 1 Raloxifene and Nolvadex

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I was wondering how many people have used raloxifene and nolvadex while on cycle for gyno prevention and which one people have had more luck with?
And has anyone ever heard of nolvadex making gyno worse or nolvadex not working for gyno prevention in some people?

VagBlister9000's picture

more research is needed.

hazeleyes99's picture

Raloxifene is far superior to Nolvadex. It is a newer compound, with far less side effects and potentially damaging long term sides than Nolvadex. Of course Nolva is highly studied, being so widely used as a female breast cancer drug, but it is linked to brain cell death, higher incidence of liver cancer, as well as ocular damage and bone pain. I personally will never use Nolva again when far superior products like Ralox or Torem are available.

Be aware that all drugs have risks, though. Even Ralox isn't totally safe, it's just safer.

FormerAhole's picture

I have yet to find Raloxifene from a reliable offshore pharmacy and it is still on patent, making domestic acquisition expensive. Like Pez, I agree that gyno is best prevented with the many aromatase inhibitors we have out there. Nolvadex is best left for PCT where it anecdotally enhances clomid.

In practice, I've been running just clomid. Nolvadex always gives me acne.

hazeleyes99's picture

Ceretropic sells Raloxifene powder and they will forward you a mass spec. reading showing it's purity if you request it. It is very affordable and although I do not work for them, I highly recommend their services. Personally, I am always wary obtaining SERM's and AI's from UGLs or research companies. Always go pharmaceutical if you can. Evista is available, you have to look a little harder, but it is out there in non-generic pharmaceutical brand packaging.

Muffins's picture

I prefer Anastrozole, Exemestane or Letrozole to prevent gynecomastia. I'll use Tamoxifen if it creeps up on me, and I need to adjust my AI while keeping it at bay. There is discussions that Tamoxifen, in combination with 19-nors, has a negative effect. I have never used Raloxifene and probably never will.

hazeleyes99's picture

Ralox shows great potential in getting rid of pubertal gyno, so it can be a godsend for people with gyno issues and not wishing to go the surgery route. As a PCT drug it is not as proven as Nolvadex, and I'm not sure how well it would work to restart your HPTA, if at all.

Steezy's picture

You know that the "Tamoxifen, in combination with 19-nors, has a negative effect" is a myth. Right?

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Muffins's picture

I do. That is why I said there are discussions about it. If it was fact, I'd cite sources.