+ 3 12 Week Test, Deca and (Edit: dropped Tren) cycle
Updated- Decided due to advice here (and i'm always worried about my Blood Pressure- never been anything the docs worried about though) going to run same compounds but longer and differently (and eat more!)
Tren- dropped for this run- may use at later point
Need to get back my wheels! Lost a stone and a half all from my legs, calves and biceps so looking to focus on those areas (highlighted in before picture)
Been cruising on 250mg Test E and 200mg Deca a week, and started this cycle a couple of weeks ago (aborted early as Test I was using was a Test Blend- haven't noticed anything from it-last inject of any kind was last week).
Been careful with diet and dropped to my lowest weight for over 15 years. However my poundages have been dropping in the gym, mainly for legs, and being a powerlifter at heart it's not fun.
I started not on Steroids but on M1T which is NOW a steroid, but due to lack of knowledge I truely believed that I was fine running it for 16 months straight aged 23. Told by docs I could never produce Test or have children (since had a daughter) so I started way back then on 500mg Test a week. Been on Blast and Cruise since then.
This is not my first Test, Deca and Tren run, but will possibly be the last time i run Tren as promised the wife I wouldn't touch it past 40, and I'm 38.
Test is my main Bulker- always has been (apart from Dbol/Anadrol but I'm trying to stick to injectables) I do get estrogen sides but this is easily controlled (for me) by Nolvadex or Aromasin which i have to hand.
Deca is both Bulker and joint support.
Tren more for fat-burning (Trying to be Lean Gain here) and Aggression.
The Test Blend is Testosterone Enanthate 250mg,Testosterone Cypionate 250mg,Testosterone Propionate 100mg
Will be Monday, Wednesday, Friday injects
Was planning to run Tren higher but I get heartburn and Blood Pressure doesn't like it over 400mg.
This is my first time posting a cycle- I know not everyone will agree with using anti-e/ai as needed and I do appreciate that. It works for me though. I had gyno removed at 18yo on one side so I am well used to knowing when its flaring up.
Many people disagree with running 2 19-nors together- I have run each separately, with Test and Standalone (I always used to try one thing at a time to see how I responded) and I don't get prolactin sides
(well rarely and controllable with Vit B6 at 200mg-never run for more than a few days).
| Week | Testosterone Blend | Deca |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 2 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 3 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 4 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 5 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 6 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 7 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 8 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 9 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 10 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 11 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 12 | 750mg | 500mg |
| 13 | 250mg | 200mg |
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Good work. +1. I ran Tren e for 15weeks with supertest400. Been a tough road. Body aches, night sweats, and all the above. Never again! Can you explain what made you stop the Tren?
You're worried about your BP and you're bumping your cycle to 25 weeks? That's a recipe for blood pressure issues. Hope you keep a keen eye on it or change things up.
I check it several times a day on 2 separate monitors. Definitely keeping an eye on it- mainly as my grandparents had high blood pressure. My father hasn't an issue and my mother's is low. One of the members here suggested Beetroot. On one monitor (wrist) it's showing higher than normal and has done for a few days, the other (arm cuff) isn't much different from how it normally is at 136/71. Any idea which to go by? The one at the docs (free access to it) always has it around 120-130/70-80. I guess the sensible thing is to go docs, do my blood pressure and go by that, assuming that there must be an issue with one of my own ones...
My BP is raised on my trt dose. I'm on Meds and I give blood regularly, just to keep things in check. The older I get, the more I have to watch it. Glad you're keeping an eye on it. There are several natural remedies, but I never found any that worked for me.
I think Noid has this covered. Less aas and more food and diet. Best of luck.
I've updated the cycle but kept Deca going though. Not ideal I know but if I don't run Deca I get sore joints all the time and I try never to have painkillers. I've tried fish oils and glucosamine etc without success. More than willing to listen to other options if anyone has any. Thank you for anyone taking the time to post!
I still think your concentrated on oil rather than food. no need for 900mg/w of test. and 100mg/w of deca should be enough for joint pain.
the extended cycle was for just deca/test and then just tren/TRT, if your gonna be running deca throughout then just do the regular test/deca cycle and end it like you where. except drop the ratios....
Fair points. I'll adjust and drop the Tren, Thank you for your input.
personally I think you are more focussed on oil then on diet. if you have been running TRT 15 years or so then honestly I would run this cycle much different. your goals are simple like mine, no worries of comps, just trying to look good.
If this were me i would drop the tren until later, im assuming you are referring to tren-a. truthfully short esters should not be given in weekly doses as they do not accumulate the same as long esters, but I know everybody does it so it is what it is.
test at 750mg/w 1-15
deca at 500mg/w 1-15
work on your diet
drop those compounds week 15 for cruise and pick up tren-a
test cruise
tren-a 75mg/d 16-24
yes im saying extend the cycle, IMO this is a much better cycle set up then what your planning on running, it will give a better chance to find the right diet plan for the compound. diet controls cut or bulk, this cycle will achieve your goals. it will also keep your tren sides minimal
Thank you for taking the time out (and gymjunkie) to give such a detailed post. May well leave the Tren as I don't put on fat easily anyway. My old gym was full of people lifting heavy, power racks and muscle. They closed down last year (underground drainage issues) and the gym now (3 times the cost) is commercial and full of the more athletic types, since going there I've found it harder to train the way I want to. I know this is mainly steroid info on Eroids but I'm a big believer in eating clean, big and often, training hard and then training a bit more. Gotta hold my hands up and admit my training needs a kick, I need to stop protein shakes in place of meals (got a crazy ass daughter, she's a lot of work). On Test and Deca I used to grow easily so maybe it's just my planning or drive that needs a kick. I put up this pic as it showed my weak points- obviously the AFTER picture I want to look a damn sight better! Seems like the general view is run longer and drop the Tren (although maybe add this towards the back end). I can do that.
Honestly I see a lot of problems with this cycle..I LOOKED UP YOUR STATS BUT PLEASE POST THEM UP NEXT TIME.. Your test mix is two identical esters with a prop ? I don't get the reasoning here , sustanon will give you far better results if your looking for that testosterone blend . Second let's talk about your goal here you want to lean bulk can't have it both ways brother you BULK OR CUT NOT BOTH. Drop the tren add the Decca and run you a cycle like this for a bulk
1-16 weeks sustanon 750 mg a week do a Eod pin
1-14 weeks Decca run it 500 mg a week mon-Thursday pin
Eat big and train big then when your cycle is over manipulate the fat loss with diet. You will get bigger and stronger on a simple cycle like this brother
Stats
Age: 38
Height: 5ft 7
Weight: 17 stone
BF: 10%ish
I do get your point, I've run Test and Deca at low dosages for a long time (on cruise) and the short Ester was more as a kicker as the Test Blend I was using instead hasn't done anything for me, no libido increase, skin cleared up, no drive or aggression, so this was instead of running Test prop and Test E seperately. I have run Deca (for joint relief mainly) for a long time. Tren for me brings a fair bit of aggression (which I need at the moment- stay at home dad) and I use it for increased Feed Efficiency as well. I'm usually a bit heavier but never carry a lot of fat with it.
The main reason I don't get big and dial it in after is I can't eat that much.
I have a thyroid that (having been checked multiple times) is running high and they believe it may be why I have had insomnia for some 25 years, I don't need meds for it, Tren makes it no worse, and it could be why I can't BULK the way i'd like to (ideally I would be like Lee Priest!) as I don't put on fat very easily. That or I eat too clean possibly.
I may well drop the Tren as it is playing hell with my blood pressure (its around 140/90, is usually around 12/80, pulse is around 90bpm when normally around 65-70)
Instead of tren look at Equipoise... That will take care of your hunger lol I eat everything in that . Drop the dbol as it can suppress hunger
Could do with an appetite, believe me... I'm not running dbol, just have a bucket load on hand- it's great for mood and it's the only thing that gives me any water retention.. Not even Anadrol gets water weight on me, only dbol- everyone's different I guess..
I keep thinking of getting eq (and running Test and EQ for 20 weeks) but when I try and give donate blood they have an issue, last time it was tattoos...
This is almost the same cycle as mine, but I'm doing 750 sustanon, 600 deca, 400 tren.
Will be good to see your progress!
Really need a suntan- awful picture but shows my puny legs, calves and biceps! Motivation right there lol