I d say 99% of the guys who get bashed are guys who want super sexy beach bodies, don't have a clue about powerlifting, strength training, or performance enhancement ... and if that is what they are trying to do then they should clearly state that fact ... same goes for the gals ... ;-)

I agree with you some guys are over weight because of low T and cannot afford or there insurance doesn't cover what they need it too.

Really if you're intelligent and know what you're doing I don't give a damn what you do. Everyone has a different ideal for themselves and if someone else doesn't agree with that then they have every right to showcase that on their own body. I'll help anyone get to where they want to be to the best of my ability. I consider my job to educate others about the risks and effects of these compounds and then leave them to make their own informed decision on how to best use them.

As long as a person has fully researched whatever compound they chose to use, and fully understand all of the possible side effects, who the fuck am I to tell them why or how they can use it. Don't get this confused with the constant wave of dipshits that wanna run XYZ and don't have a clue what it's gonna do to them.

I'm all about live and let live. I do understand the standard of bf % being 20 or less for health reasons and performance reasons. Especially when someone has the chance of experiencing negative side effects that can put them in the hospital and cause serious damage. This is why I don't give cycle advice, I would hate to be the one responsible for telling someone who isn't ready to go ahead with a cycle and they hurt themselves. It's a very slippery slope.

I think a lot of the time people give people a hard time when cycling with hbf because the side effects can be more savear and alot of the time guys don't want to see people make a mistake wich could cause a lot of health problems for the individual. Sometimes it's constructive criticism and sometimes it's dickheads ;)

As always, GOALS are everything. People get "goal hijacked" all of the time. They want to "look good," then get talked into eating 5,000 calories a day. If your goal isn't "gain five pounds of muscle," then eating 5k calories or more everyday isn't gonna help. Wanna "look good?" Drop your body fat and get lean. Get to that goal, look great, then figure out where you wanna go from there.

I want to be 6' tall at 200 pounds or even less. I'm tired of being 230. So rather than eat like a horse to build shit tons of muscle, I'll be dieting (which sucks). Cuz that's my goal. I'm fine with my arms being 16" for the rest of my life, especially if it means I finally get down to my 34" waist. For others, that's not their goal. If I want to bench 400 pounds someday, I'll eat and lift differently. Until then, I'll be the asshole skipping lunch while others are cramming down their third protein shake, but I'll still be out lifting most of those same lads in the gym cuz part of my goal for living life on this Earth is to leave all of my mental baggae on the dumbbell rack.

Remember your goal, do what it takes to get there, and encourage others whether they have the same goal(s) or different!

Here is a pretty good reason in my eyes for running a cycle with lower body. Scientifically proven you will gain more muscle vs fat during your cycle. The health reasons are obvious also.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/scientific-proof-lower...

In the end I don't give damn what the next person does if it isn't effecting me or loved ones. At the same time I am always willing to help others.

Before recently I always just lifted and ate. Let my body do what it was going to do. The look was something that didn't drive me. It was solely the lifting(which most know about me by now) Now that my priorities have changed and I am moving towards the "look" I am concerned with my bf. As well as for the health reasons as I get older. I will tell you I was prescribed bp medication for years. Stopped taking it January 1st as that was the beginning of my new journey, dropping bf and eating cleaner. Went to the Dr. last week and bp is now normal. For me that is more incentive to keep on the new path chosen.

Guys here get ripped a new one only because a slap in the back of the head is more likely to relay the fact someone is fkng up, than gentle "let me take your hand" words. More times than not the person is defensive instead of receptive. When they take it for what it is, thats when the huge hearts the guys here have are shown and get to working with the person. Either way brother continue to do you while smashing the weights fkng face in! Knuckles

rolltide is correct, there are many tools in the shed that need to be utilized to get to any desired goal...ie strength, shredded etch. One tool cannot build a house

Well steroids has its place for power lifters but the majority of people that post here and want advice running steroids aren't power lifters. It's mostly people that think using steroids is a shortcut and will take them from been 25 percent body fat to ripped and this is so false. These guys get ripped bc they have no idea how to diet or even workout proper. Your talking maybe ten percent of people that are power lifters to 90 percent of people looking for the easy way. Then u throw in greater side effects and u can see why guys rip them a new one. It's actual amazing people perception on steriods. Take them and u will go from fat to Arnold lol. There no reason to use steroids at 25 percent body fat unless your a strongman. U can get results just by changing your diet and working out. Sides u get from been overweight and using steroids far out weight the results u will achieve. If guys aren't disciplined they will lose everything anyways during pct.

I suppose its all to do with personal preference bro.... my 35 yr journey has all been about about size with aesthetics for competition purposes, that was my dream in my late teens so i engaged with pure bodybuilding and pursued my goal with a vengence, ive had a classic look, ive been down the mass monster road, its been like a building/rebuilding evolving journey for me and ive enjoyed every fkn second to be honest.

Never been into the massive bodyfat look it just dont do nothing for me, instead i prefer the hard,grainy vascular look... i must admit even when i was at my heaviest ever which was around the 270 mark i was never above 15% BF... i always like to see a lot of vein, if i cant see thick veins i get really unhappy and in tear my diet to pieces with the anger of a fkn lunatic ... thats how i am with most things in life though, if its not perfect it can go in the bin!... that goes for houses, cars, clothes etc, yes i like things perfect... my kitchen is like a operating theatre,, sterile!.. hygiene and cleanliness is paramount with all things i own or touch... OCD? maybe!... but thats how i am.

Regarding high BF.. maybe not such a problem at your age but has we get older i think it is important that it is kept under control, especially when running PEDs..... i have come up with a lot of guys who i still speak to regularly and 99% of them always say they wish they had kept more control over BF now they are my age because they look and feel like shit.

One thing i do believe is the reason why i have never suffered high/low blood pressure, edema, cholesterol issues or diabetes is because i have been a hard task master with myself to always be at an healthy bf level.

And to finalise........ the best thing ever about staying in the healthy zone is that i can comp pre in a matter of 10/12 weeks very comfortably without dropping any muscle because of the minimal weight loss i am looking for.

Thats my story....... lets hope some guys with different backgrounds and goals add to the thread