+ 18 IGF1 results on Godtropin
I've been running these for 6 weeks at 4 iu's a day. I took 4iu's IM at 5:10am; so 3hrs 28mins before the blood was collected. I received 2 kits of the 240iu batches at the very beginning of December. I'll post the batch number when I get home this evening.
Needless to say, I'm surprised at the poor results. I've experienced some edema in my hands and feet, as my wedding ring is hard to remove (it was not prior to starting these) and hands get tingly and go numb regularly at night. When I get up first thing in the morning it feels like I'm walking on pins until my circulation get going. So I'm not sure what's in these, but I'm frustrated with the results.
Oh yeah, I've only had red welps on one occasion when I pinned the inner portion of my legs for several days straight. But nothing besides that.
Batch # 230915
Manuf date: 09/23/2015
Exp date: 09/23/2017
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i feel sorry about the result,bro
but u feel the sides as well. and the others got very good results on the same batch as well. im not the best doctor , i cant explain this. many good results ,u dont believe, but only one bad igf1 test, everyone start to accuse me. i sell one kit 238$, i must be responsible for all the IGF1 level? i must guarantee everybody get high IGF1 level? and do u still think about the issue might be from yourself?
i just got the LABS ANALYSIS FROM SIMEC today, i will post it soon
thanks bro
No hard feelings. I'm confounded as well as I experienced many of the same HGH sides as others. Since getting off the extra water I was holding has dropped as well. I'm baffled. I'm looking forward to seeing the results. Thanks for chiming in.
i posted the report from SIMEC on my gh: its pharma grade, high quality, 191aa
so u get the sides,that means its legit gh. but your IGF1 is low, maybe gh didnt convert to IGF1 on your body. or it goes very fast.
u can still get the benefice from gh such as fat loss,anti aging, fast recover ,but since its low IGF1, its hard to get mass
Not running for mass so all good.
beyondimportsSeems some ppl with same batch had good numbers. How are you storing and mixing?
What's up Beyond? I see you lurking around from time to time.
I'm storing in fridge at about 37 degrees. Mixing w refrigerated BAC water and injecting it so as to make sure it drips down the side of the vial. If you have any other suggestions, I'm all ears. Cheers man and good to see you.
Have you had growth that tested positive for hcg? Or is this apart of the process of elimination? ++
No. Someone brought it up earlier in the thread. I had a huge spike in libido after my first shot. I hadn't read of that occurring with HGH, and given that common sides listed for HCG include edema, bloat and sometimes welts, I thought I'd check.
acmilan1307Just get a pregnancy test
Can you people not read? He already did... AND he posted a pic of it
acmilan1307He just up loaded that pic
It's actually been up since the second day of this post and was in response to some comments made earlier in the thread. I prolly should've referenced it up top.
Could be a diuretic causing the pins and needles. Not 100 percent sure but that was information relayed to me when running another brand and I was getting horrible sides with a minute dose of 4iu with decent to low igf numbers for the dosage. and my hands were dead and cold when I would wake up in the middle of the night.
Why hasn't Matt come in here yet ? He logs on
+2 for the bloods. Are you taking any ai or serms?
No I'm not. Just started another cycle the week of the test, but no AI at this point.
shiningstarBrother thanks for getting bloods done+1 dude if something doesn't add up and its not just you homeboy and your bloods suck don't be so passive about pointing fingers dude be pissed off fuck that was alot of money and there is one of the biggest dick riding mofos on this sources page I don't have to say names that even says oh just bad test keep testing what until three or four bad test meanwhile keeps letting everyone know about his life changing amazing results lmfao smh bro I'm on your team and I think it's time for people to go to matt if they are unhappy you are justified and have myself and others support, I will say that I like matt but like a respected member on here said don't let pride get in the way off business even if its one kit if its bunk debate that shit, just my 2cents bro all my love and respect.
Ha! Thanks Star. I hear you. I'm sure Matt will see this if he hasn't already. But if I can't be sure of what I'm getting, would I really want to get a replacement? I'll let you know what comes of it. Cheers and thanks again.
Strange man I'm running same batch# and my numbers at 5ius a day came back at 5 something and results are insane I have been shredding fat like crazy and vascular as a mofo. I get comments daily on how much I have leaned out. I wonder if damaged during shipping or something? Thanks for posting. +1
rocketballzPost up the bloods brother. Let's see
https://www.eroids.com/pics/test-pic-and-igf
rocketballzI guess I'll take your word it was the same batch. Maybe it's a case of a "low responder"?
I'm not saying test @200 should bump up igf over 500, but it does raise igf and what I am saying is there is something else in the mix, so can't be 100% sure. I honestly think there is good GH mixed in that batches kits. I just have a gut feeling that there is also some not so great mixed in. who knows what the ratio is and who got what. people ARE claiming good experiences from it.
I can't talk shit until I get my bloods back, that's just my gut feeling. Hell, for all I know, my shit will come back great and this will be just one bad test, but I don't think there should be ANY bad tests to be honest with ya. If my test comes back bad, I'm dropping it on the spot and bitching. If it comes back good, i'll ride it out and keep my eyes open.
I hear ya bro. To support "inconsistent batch content", some report welts with one vial and then no welts on another vial in the same kit. In addition, the vials are not coded like the boxes so you don't really know what batch vial you are testing. Another generic source I have used has all the vials stamped with the date and batch number. Thanks for your testing
That's certainly a valid point. I continue to experience water retention in my extremities, so that indicates to me that there is something in there. See my post below. At this point it's prolly wise to await the reaults of the mass specs that should shed some light on this.
AMEN to that brother
+1 for testing..
Yep, Chinese GH goes up, Chinese GH goes down... Thanks for testing
one labs couldnt tell everyhting
u know everyone's body is different. and u never think its the issue from himself? and u r sure that its the issue from the product? exactly the same batch, why the others got good results?
Well god damnit! +1.
Thats like your baseline ...+1 for testing
Complete shot in the dark, and I'm expecting the answer to be no, but have you been taking a butt load of Nolvadex? Lol
Nope. None.
bt843i'm curious as to what it is that's making my joints sore AF off 3ius but not elevating IGF
I've got a hypothesis I'll share later this evening. I've experienced similar sides as you guys mention below, so I'm gonna put it out there for discussion.
Please pm me with this days too my friend. Thank you
Okay, I'm gonna keep this short and not speculate too much at this point. Similar to what the guys talk about below, I believe there is definitely something in there. I've experienced the edema in my hands and feet since starting these. I was off cycle when I started and by the end of the second week I had gained over 5 lbs. I was shocked and know that the likely culprit was water weight. Someone PMed me and gandered that had I done bloods 10 days after starting, I likely would have seen an increase in my IGF levels. They then said likely that the levels would have decreased from that point. The only conclusion I can gather from that is that I've developed an antibody response if it is indeed HGH. In my opinion, this would suggest that it is 192aa and not 191aa. Based on my reading, this would not occur with everyone. But a large percentage of people seem to develop immunogenicity to 192aa. That is the only conclusion I can draw from what I've read and feedback I've received. That may also explain why I continue to experience edema in my extremities. I also continue to have very lucid dreams. However, the IGF1 levels indicate to me that the efficacy is nil at this point. There is a link somewhere in the HGH forum on 192aa HGH as it pertains to developing immunogenicity. It's a medical report and is a great read if you can find it.
I'm certainly no expert on this topic (at all). There is something in the vial. It's not HCG as I did a pregnancy test on it last night and it came back negative (see accompanying pic). Possibly it's a peptide or mix of peptides. Who knows.
I'm not pointing a finger at this point. I think it'd be best to just await the results of the mass specs that another member has already submitted before drawing any conclusions.
Yea you sure speculate alot of things, but put simply...
This is just one test, not everyone taking the same gear will test the same. So many factors come unto play that to think that people sometimes get out of hand.
I would simply ask for More gear and test it again.
so if it is 192aa and you developed the antibodies, is that reversable?
I don't know the answer to that question. I don't know if it's against the "foreign" protein analogs or if it at some point adapts to HGH in general. That's a question for someone with greater knowledge than me.
Please do share
Can u link it if not in this thread? Don't wanna miss it
Same, and after going to 3iu I've started getting some puffy nips (not sore or lumps tho) but somethings going on there. I did a pregnancy test thinking "no fucking way..." Plus side is, the vial isn't preggers
bt843yea i've gotten sold HCG before as HGH and let me tell you that shit was terrible. Skin was broken out like a mofo but I was also younger and taking test so I didn't put 2 and 2 together until i was long off my cycle and skin hadn't cleared up yet. but really what could make your joints sore as hell? I will say i feel like i'm a few pounds heavier than average (only been on for 2 weeks ish at 3ius max a day) and it seems to be water weight but i'm definitely lean
Yea I'm only at 3iu too. But my joints aren't that sore. A little some times, I have put on some water weight and have maybe leaned a little. And when my nips puffed up the other day... I've seen that's not uncommon with growth... I dunno but I'm gonna have to run some tests next week or so.
Just bought a test for IGF and threw prolactin in there for shits and gigs. I'll go in the next day or 2.
bt843i just get so frustrated w the gh game. it's like 50/50 chance you get something legit, maybe even less. last time i bought generics was about 6 months ago because i saw all these rave reviews only to find out it was bunk. swore i'd never waste money on generics again. randomly saw this guy at the top of the rankings on hgh and read nothing but good reviews. saw the 'too good to be true' prices, and read shipping was extremely fast, which turned out to be true as well. all in all great experience until i see this posted now i won't be able to sleep tonight wondering if its real or not haha.
I tried a kit of this stuff and I was not impressed. Yea man...the generic game is a tough gamble. But the fact TO ME seems that this product is just that..."too good to be true". I always thought something was up behind the scenes, and I think its just like all the rest of the generic suppliers...inconsistent. I feel for you guys, cuz I am dealing with my own generic problem at this time as well.
Hahaha dude same exact thing happened to me. This was my first GH purchase BECAUSE of all the reasons u said. Oh well guess we may find out soon
Did u get these in the actual 240iu boxes? Or were these purchased before he had the boxes and labels made?