+ 3 Blind leading the blind
Here we go, another post I just read about a supposed "bodybuilder" giving a train wreck of cycle advice to someone who has no business even cycling anyways with nearly %30 percent body fat. Do you have any idea how many of these posts are popping up lately??!. Jesus christ! There seems to be an epidemic of moronic idiots out there that are randomly pumping shit loads of chemicals into their body ...not knowing what the fuck they are doing then giving advice to complete novices out there that are going to end up with some serious health problems or even dead. Natural selection is going to fade you mother fuckers out eventually but how many people are they going to end up hurting with this nightmarish advice they are giving to completely ignorant novices that are new to bodybuilding, competitive sports,or even new to the damn gym??! Man, guys and gals these are scary times and just think we ONLY HEAR ABOUT THE ONES THAT POST HERE! Think about the poor bastards out there that don't find eroids!! Got to be hundreds or maybe thousands??! Idk..if you think about it we have probably saved lives ladies and gentlemen. .how about that?? law enforcement or other agency's that would like to shut this site down for whatever reasons need to think about that shit for a minute...we've saved lives you fucks. Go fuck with other sites out there similar to the silk road where you can order fucking heroine and hit men. That's pretty powerful folks..think about the fact that because you or another member took 5 minutes out of your time to help someone rather than bash them for asking if it's ok to inject anadrol into their Goddamn eyeball or some shit ...take a sec and think some douche fuck at the gym that claims to be a pro what the fuck ever or coach of what the fuck ever probably told them to do this ...I just don't want to run people off..even if the op is 19 years old...you know that little fucker is probably going to cycle regardless of us telling him not to...can we not at least guide them safely somehow without breaking eroids policy against giving advice to under 25?? ....there is no real set sound question I'm asking in this forum ...just had to rant after seeing yet ANOTHER. ....forum post with horrid advice. Rant over..anger slightly controlled..pipe loaded..gym time..
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26 190lbs 6'3" training for another 6 months before starting. At less than 8% body fat I'm a former athlete looking for help with first cycle. All info in post titled first cycle greatly appreciate any founded advice. If not thanks anyway. People just want a miracle cure no one wants to put in the work and diet right.
Rustyhooker.....
I can't believe you posted this here. Blink and an example will fall right out of the sky. I'm guessing that you didn't even read this post. I don't know what else to say. I'll give it a shot though.
In the forums, read the posts in yellow and use the magnifying glass to search. Works like google for the site. Spend some time on here researching and someone might help you out.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/diet-clinic-now-live
6'3" 190 pounds. You need to eat more. Yeah training might not be an issue at 8% bf or less. Look up Catalyst
Anadrol in the eyeball sounds like it might hurt a bit. Does it give one that "doe eyed" look?
Most of what the average dipshit needs to know can be found with just a little research. It's not just kids that are asking retarded questions over & over either. The problem isn't usually ignorance. It's stupidity and laziness. If you've spent 30 min on this site, you would never even think about posting "my first cycle and I'm going to run 100 mg of dbol for 8 wks, 500 mg of test for 10wks (cause that's all I have), 60 mgs/day of var the last 4 wks to harden me up. I've got some decca coming, but it won't get here for 2 wks so I'll be starting it late. Oh, and N2Guard for my pct. Read about that on another forum that I'm a member of." and no ai because he's sure he won't need it and besides, it's too expensive. "What do you guys think?"
You can generally tell pretty quickly when someone is open to advice and those are the ones worth saving. This is what the site is supposed to be about. The remainder of the mutated gene pool are either lazy, stupid, or just plain simply enjoying getting everyone all worked up. Sometimes I think it's a combo of all 3. I think the one thing that most of you with ave. or above ave. intelligence tend to overlook, is the fact that a large portion of the population are illiterate and/or low IQ. It is next to impossible to argue or reason with slow or stupid people. And forget about getting through to that fat 30yr old bastard living in his mom's basement, sitting in his underwear, stuffing cheetos in his mouth and banging away on the keyboard pretending to be a girl.
Classic example of seeing why our guys get jaded and frustrated...... sad shit really.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/proposed-cycle-2
RustyhookerLook at that Longdave55 dude. Post after post folks have offered cycle advice til he got honest about running a cycle full til for a year.
His last forum after all the warnings a dummie posts on there how to run a test cycle?!?!?!
He's gotta be a troll if ya read all his forums. Lol. Cheap drama from facebook. Lol
TronYou got a link brotha?
RustyhookerPerfect timing!!! He just made yet ANOTHER forum! Read his prior forums....
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/proposed-cycle-2
TronThanks man..I'll check it out in a bit after I get off work
RustyhookerHe just added another. Claiming his ifbb buddy is helping again. Lol
TronOh, man..I just read half the forum and that was ENOUGH lol
must have missed it
RustyhookerIt was kitchen sink of cutting ideals. All bad. Lol
"feed the troll"
That guy is an utter clown. The end.
RustyhookerTrue. Give the silent page is better than answering
I've just had one of my more direct moments.....
RustyhookerComing from you, thats a lot! You're a gift of patience. I get short fused. Or just....short.
I think he's only the second person in all my time here I've got really irritated with.
i simply cannot be assed with the tool................ Darwinism must be allowed to take full effect.
RustyhookerI got frustrated last post, told him to just do it. He wouldn't get or post bloods. Part of me says its a retread laughing his ass off.
The mental disability is strong with this one...
He got a new helmet for Christmas!
You know what!.... its not really that big of an issue with this under 25 ruling, i just came from the cycle section and the OP put up his stats claiming to be 37.... ok! all well and good we say and then proceed to dish out info willy nilly!....... guys are clambering over each other to offer advice, and i also see certain members like to offer "FR me and lets talk in PM"........... lmfao!
I read all this stuff and thought to myself ... "if i was 19 i have just read everything i need to know about putting together a stack, incuding Ai etc... the full monty!"
What it all boils down to is this...... if a guy is honest and shows his true age (under age) all hell lets loose here.......... now! if he says nothing and simply cruises through forums and posts ( and draining some poor saps brain in pm) he has the potential to gain astronomical knowledge within a few hours!.... what he does with that knowledge is not really our concern, neither is it our concern what some 40 yr old guy does, they may double or even triple stated dosages?......... how can it be controlled? ...
Answer being......... IT CANNOT.
So it goes on........... the guy who shows he is under 25 gets nothing....... the one that lies or withholds gets bombarded with info, good, bad and indifferent from some of the shit i see dished out lately.
It is an Enigma, an eroids Dilemma!............ i think in this day and age it should be scrapped.. but thats just my opinion after years of speaking to guys who i have fuck all clue about who they really are or their true age.
This is just another reason why i am more silent these days than i used to be ... i suppose i have grown super cautious because i have had so much info twisted or abused over the years.... i dunno!
Vike out................ peace brothers
TronYeah, no way you can ever tell who is who on the internet. I get that. What I don't get is these false food guru's out there giving these kids a recipe for disaster and telling them "way to go brother!"...they are permanently damaging these kids! Dude, what kind of person does shit like that with a clear conscious??! Do they not know they are giving horrible advice or do they just not fucking care!! (Damn, I'm getting worked up again lol)..anyways, that's the real meaning to this post bro..just to rant about that. So many of these forums popping up lately with guys posting these recipes for disaster that they got from a "pro " or "coach" at the gym. Smfh..
For all we know you could be some 22 year old jabroni claiming to be a Guru!! Haha!
You really can't tell who really is of age here and who isn't, you can only really go on their mindset. Some of these older guys haven't a fucking clue about what they are doing and give off an attitude that stinks worse than the shutter after Christmas dinner. I've reached out to a few of the youngins on here in PM after seeing them ready to risk their health, and even though I offered no cycle advice and really hammered as much as I could diet and training, pointed them in the right direction to reading material on here for just that, they were very receptive. I guess it really comes down to the individual, and those who are open minded and really let the fact sink in that some of us have fucked up, and ate only looking out for them, maybe changes their minds for the better.
Who knows though... As you say, they could just take that material and run their cycle anyway, but that's no longer any of my business. We tried. It's truly amazing though when you can literally use the dawn magnifying glass up top and find everything you need, from the easy breezy first cycle to some more complex cycle stacks all laid out for the taking. I know you've said it time and again, but after searching for a couple of hours you can have an exact cycle laid out without ever posting anything. Baffling why more folk who want cosigners don't realize that.
Happy new years BTW Vike!
Happy new year bro
yeah thats true.... but thick fucks like me actually advertise our real age (old as it is) 28/06/1960 and i have posted multiple pictures with my face clearly visible, my honesty on eroids has really been stupid to a point and could have back fired, (and Suze too)... but it didnt luckily, and i have never claimed to be a Guru, that tag was given to me by the Administration here for services rendered over the years to eroids and the running of it.
But yeah!....... i know what you mean and i take zero offence bro
P.S. i have a picture in my profile when i was 23yrs old........... YES i was young ONCE lol
I hear you brother, I was just pulling your dick. You're one of those level headed guys who is always honest and always up for a good laugh, yet come down on a brother when need be. That kind of person is rare in life - someone who can break you down and rid you of your ego, yet offer you a seat at the dinner table right after.
That Guru tag has been well earned, I'm pretty sure all of eroids would agree.
Didn't know they had cameras back then......
Catalyst runs away.
I was just about to say the same thing! Lmao. I think we need to lay low for a while... Maybe you can hide in a Uhaul, probably the only thing that fits your giant ass right now.
lol...................... probably matches my giant fkn belly at the Mo
might post a piccie of the big bastard later............ all hairy "n" shit.......... Big Belly tag winner 2016 lol
Aaaah fuck!!..................... thats beats me
now thats what i call........... an AB..... Hes not seen his "old chap" for a few years lmfaoooooooo
I moved house a couple of months ago. Thankfully Vike no longer knows where I live. I'm still, however, sending this from the cupboard under stairs just in case.....
bigmurphI have to agree with what you said but it is the rules that we cant help under 25 but the other day there was a kid I wanted to help that got banned and I guarantee he is injecting tren right now. I was trying to tell him he needed to hold off by the time I picked up my phone again he had argue with other members and got banned i wish I could have helped him because he said he was going to use aas for the same reasons I started so young he was a football player and wasn't as big as he needed to be.
So yeah it sucks but its the rules and the rules are there for a reason But I bet he is shooting tren right now sucks
TronYeah, man. And the more I thought about thi s today the more I thought "if they aren't going to listen to us about not using...they aren't going to listen to us about what compounds to use and how much". Like Greg said it's on them. But that doesn't mean we can't try bro. It's the guy's out there giving them ideas that I'm really upset about.
bigmurphIts true in my area all the young guys i talk to and gear comes up first thing they say every time is i can't wait to run some tren
Its bad when I started taking gear all I could get was test and dbol now kids at any age can order anything they want off the net so they read and what they come up with are take tren and you will get big quick or take like 5 compounds at once and you will be a pro bb
Its crazy and then like you brought up these fake ass wanna be coaches as they call themselves that tell these kids no dont take that pay me and I will tell you what to take
Take this instead not 400mgs of tren take a gram of test
Its crazy but its true if they are set on doing it they are going to but I would like the chance to say don't slow down try this compared to what you're doing and you will see results but it doesn't always work like that
Not just your area. I've banned 14 year olds from my gym for pinning gear in the changing rooms. I'm sorry to say that it's almost as if nobody wants to train unless they're on gear. For me, the difference is I love lifting weights, I always have. Take the steroids away, I'd still love it. A lot of the people that lift don't like lifting, they like LOOKING a certain way. Therefore, the less actual hard work they have to go, the better.
There's a number of folks here that do it because they love it. Those, I my opinion, are a minority. I'm
Not just referring to the youngsters here either, there are plenty my age that are just plain lazy and want it all yesterday too.
Reality of modern weight training. You'd be amazed at the number of people that look like shit that regularly use steroids. Owning a gym was a real eye opener for me.
bigmurph14 thats just sad but exactly what I see in my area
I go years without cycles i to like lifting it helps my anxiety and stress levels
With the kids I believe its just ignorance and what they think is right but on the other side the adults that are ignorant also thinking if they just shoot some gear they are going to be hurcules. They have no idea how much hard work it still takes even if you are running gear.
As a gym owner I can only imagine the train wrecks you see happening
Is there is a safe way to run AAS before your endocrine system is completely developed? No.
So the only guidance we can give is with diet and exercise and good counsel. You want to save lives? This is what you do. Will he listen, odds are no, but that's on him, not us.
TronYeah, I see what you're saying. Best bet is say you will seriously harm your health if you do that cycle ..and for sure harm your endocrine system...but let me tell you how to eat and train..you don't listen..it's on you. Idk Greg...just getting more pissed at these idiots that are telling these people horrible advice and they have no idea it is horribly bad advice. See so many forums lately regarding this matter..
I get the frustration. Best we can do is lead by example.
Share said post please.
TronHere is the latest one..
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/first-cycle-3
I remember that one, They will keep popping up this month and the best thing to do is remind them why its terrible. Dont get frustrated because its very easy to do when you see 24 5 foot 3 45 pounds and doing a mast tren dbol hex primo cycle. Try to lead them and if they wont follow toss them off the bridge or let natural selection run its course.
TronNot frustrated at them. ..it's the people giving them the advice.
Thats what I meant, still drinking my 1st coffee of the day so brain isnt fully rebooted
TronGot ya lol..I'm taking my frustration out at the gym..feeling better.
Very good site Tron, Thanks to you and the other experienced posters here, you are really helping at least some people here. I've learned more in a couple of months here than 6 years of cycles in the 1980's. I'm sure many new users are extremely grateful you care enough to post your advice
Regards
Last Chance