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+ 2 Labs at 5 weeks of current cycle. Time to drop the Drol

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My current cycle consists of sust at 750 a week with a extra prop 150 a week, npp at 450 and IH drol at only 50 mgs a day. Been running Aro at 12.5 ed from grindstone labs and it had kept my estrogen in check which is a good sign, and pharma caber .5 eod. For liver support I have been using Tudca NAC and milk thistle and my liver levels still check out super high on only 50 mgs of drol. I dont drink or do drugs so I'm not sure why liver levels check out so damn high. Any suggestions to bring them down besides dropping the drol

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KAM1314's picture

Your liver numbers are lower then most people that run an oral. If these were my labs I wouldn't even stress at all (I'd be happy with the fact that I'm not WELL over those numbers). You should come down to normal range fine after you discontinue it. It's kinda like the same shit when guys go nuts because their estro is 10 points above normal. I wouldn't stress dude, just keep taking your liv supports after you stop. You should be fine Bossman...how long have you been running it?

Big_Bossman's picture

That's good to know man, sounds like I'm freaking for no reason, I've been on drol for 5 weeks ed

KAM1314's picture

And are you cycling the drol 2wks on 2wks off or are you hitting it every day? Either way I wouldn't be stressed with those numbers on an oral like that. Be safe brother

Big_Bossman's picture

Running straight through bro ed

Makwa's picture

Cycle it like KAM said. With ADrols high binding affinity it loses effectiveness real quickly and cycling it helps to avoid that and also gives the liver a break. Most effective way to run a cycle with adrol

Big_Bossman's picture

Sounds like a plan I will do that next run

KAM1314's picture

Sorry I haven't popped back on your thread bro. Any questions shoot me a pm, sorry about that

SenseiMiagi's picture

Do you know your baseline ast/alt values? The drol is likely causing your acute spike in enzymes, unless you always run high. I wouldnt go so far as to say this level is "dangerous high" and it is typical. How much longer do you have on your drol?

Looks like you are taking the right support supps, but you may increase them if you plan to stay on the drol. Blood tests tend to freak me out sometines and cause a kneejerk reaction when in reality all of our numbers will be fudged up acutely while we poison our bodies for muscle lol.

If it is causing you anxiety drop the drol, or if you have a cool doc talk to him. DO NOT google research liver damage and symptoms.....Ive made that mistake a few times...only makes the anxiety worse.

Maybe up the support supps, up the water, check and make sure youre not getting too much iron as that can do funny things to liver and kidney values. Recheck in week or 2 and evaluate.

Big_Bossman's picture

Ya man baseline levels before drol were in normal range, I'm dropping the drol this Sunday and will continue to run the liver support throughout cycle. I'm probably just over reacting just the highest my liver values have been on any cycle. Thanks for your feedback

SenseiMiagi's picture

No sweat man....i recentlt got overtook by pct anxiety when my hemoglobin was skyrocketed...knew for sure I was stroking! Went to my doc...he kinda chuckled at me, and told me to settle down.

I like the fact that bloods are so easy to get, but also miss the old days when we didnt get them....and never worried about these damned numbers!

Big_Bossman's picture

Haha better to be safe than sorry, I know I'm always nervous as hell opening the email results

Grindstonelabs's picture

Smile

juiceball8082's picture

Nice to see grindstone gtg

Big_Bossman's picture

Aro looks on point by bloods and viagra def works, I did get a pm from a member saying the tada was no good