+ 7 I'm not growing my gear must be bunk
Look guys it's simple. There is no secret to growth there really isn't. Train your ass off, eat enough, take some gear and you will grow period. The problem is its quite simple to fill your body with drugs. Anyone can inject oil into there ass that's easy. The hard part is training hard and eating enough to stimulate growth. 98% of those who have come to me for help either don't train with the right intensity and or don't eat enough. So we come to the "oh bro my gear must be bunk I'm not growing" once I look into there diet and take em threw a workout the culprit is quite clear. The worst part is if they would train hard and shovel enough food into there gut they would still be growing even without the anabolics. The truth is most of the gear out there is in fact legit, shit some of it is even a bit overdosed. These guys ain't stupid there in it for the money not your health. So next time before you go on the boards and claim your anadrol is sugar and your test is way underdosed, check your diet and training. It may be humbling but more then likely you train like a school girl and you eat like a bikini competitor. Rant over :-)
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just read this and I'm laughing hard. So many people I know fits into this...
I have two buddies who run about 4 cycles a year but you could never tell. They look like they've never lifted in their lives (which is probably true) but they will run full on test, tren, mast cycles like it's going out of style. Running probably 3x more gear than me and they both stand 6'+ tall under 200lbs with +18%bf and arms maybe 15" at most. I don't even try to understand the psychology there.
Nice rant. Lol. I see a lot of these guys in the gyms. They talk about all the gear they use and most carry around a bignore gym bag full of supplements. Yet they do the same exact workout, never changes in weight or reps. Then they tell you about their diet which is pretty much trash and protein shakes.
got a dude in my gym, he goes up and down in size dramatically, he will train like a machine for a while, get big then all of a sudden hes small and training like shit, i was suprised last week i saw him and he looks like shit, i asked what hes been on etc and he is hitting 2500mgs of test e a week and 1000mgs of deca week, hes been on that for 8 weeks, he got bloods and his estro is in the 1900s, and everything else is fucked, he has no ai no nothing and he cant understand why he looks like shit, another dude who thinks high juice equals high gains, with estro that high he would feel like he looks, and its proof the more you do doesnt mean the better you look etc if your not doing everything else right, food, training, resting etc high juice can and will most likely fuck you, hes the smallest ive seen him.
I've helped a few guys at the national level, super heavies and they don't take half of that. I've also came across guys running these amounts and sure enough they look like shit, struggling to make middle weight.
My first pin made my balls dissapear. Is that good enough? Just asking bc I thought this was going make my balls grow. Oh my.
Looks like your on the right track bro
I believe it is called build a base first ;-)
Can't really add to this as everyone has covered the points but for you young ones who are just starting out your main focus should be on learning how to eat and when before even thinking about juicing. Get your training down. Do this and you will grow without taking any juice and that is a fact. But it is a slow process.
It's painful to see people that are using gear without having the basic principles of diet and training mastered yet.
Muscle mass does not grow from air kids. It talkes food and the more muscle you aquire the more food you need to consume period. If that is too much for you to handle or you do not have the time then AAS most likely will not do you much good. Take up beer pong or some shit.
The best is; I got all my gear and I'm ready to bulk, I am going to consume 2500-3000 calories for the next 14 weeks......lololololol. Dumb bastard
People have a question about the gear.....they need to get bloodwork. 70% food...30% AAS. They still have a question about why they arent growing, then they need to consider what body type they are and what their lifting regimen is.
Well said and I think it's a problem compounded by the media, BroScience and the younger generation.
The media portrays anabolics as a magic elixir that will turn crappy athletes into hall of famers. No work required.
BroScience is often wrong but stronger than fact because there are dozens of Internet forums spewing nonsense.
The younger generation expects results NOW just like everything else in their life.
X2...immediate gratification versus delayed gratification...
Reality is it's easier to blame the gear than it is to admit you don't push yourself in the gym and aren't disciplined and its your diet. The gear aspect is "someone else's fault", avoids taking ownership and accountability. Blame something / someone else other than yourself for failure.
RustyhookerAgree! Guys on a bulker after tuning macros and micros with 4000 calories. Because finishing a bulker at 7% is legit.
bigwillyI'm glade these people exist, I'd look pretty ordinary if everyone could eat and train hard. Lol
I constantly tell people food 50% training 45% drugs 5% at best. No one believes it tho. Fucking sad, everyone either claims bunk, ups the dose or adds another compound. Eating bird size portions yet running pro cycles smfh. Meal timing is constantly off , training is the furthest thing from intense. But if you ask them their diet and training is g2g yet they aren't making gains, yet day after day they repeat the same shit expecting a different result. The problem is everyone doesn't want to put in the work , they want it fast they want it yesterday. Everyone seems to think add drugs and when that doesn't work add more compounds then growth etc etc in the mean time they look average lol. I've been beating the horse for awhile. Can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink all you can do is hope they wake up at some point and smell the roses.
X2....Food and training hold a greater percentage, while AAS represents a smaller %....thats true..
Me personally I think food plays a bigger role
Always spitting the truth hermano! Guys aren't growing on test levels at 2k but since they're injecting 500mg a week they should be at 4-5k. They bitch to high heaven and claim its bunk gear. But there's still a huge problem with that, they're still not growing on bloods testing at 2k! Fuck bro everyone should be growing on 2k! If you can't grow with your testosterone levels at 2k+ then you are fucking up bad! Your diet and program is shit and you won't grow on bloods at 6k! Cuz you're not eating and training like you should. So quit blaming the gear as the root cause and look in the mirror.
Exactly this is why the first question I get is what should I take? They want to believe it's the drugs, they want it now. How in the hell is your test going to do anything if your not giving it enough fuel? How is your muscle going to grown if you ain't pushing em to there limits? It's very simple but I guess hard work is to much to ask these days. Its a lot more comforting to think I will get there all I have to do is bump up the tren
it reminds me of the post I saw where someone asked what compound would make them vascular......Well good sir low body fat makes you vascular I would imagine. Either you have the guys with claims of bunk gear or the ones misinformed of what gear does. I never knew if I took tren or anavar I would instantly become vascular.....yet I am not on either one and my upper half looks like a road map. Put in the fkn work and even with bunk gear you will grow and when you train more aggressive you will be vascular without.
I remember the first advice you really dropped on me way back when was a diet plan. It was a huge wake up call. I wasnt going as far as I needed to go and just seeing a simple diet plan opened my eyes and I changed my composition that cycle. Fuck bro those were some good times back then. You and Grrl really made a lot of difference in my progress. I still appreciate that bro
You just took me way back man. It's been so long it's unreal. Anybody who's been in this for long enough knows it comes down to the food.