posted Fri, 04/03/2015 - 18:26
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+ 2 Clear liquid coming out of my nipples WTF?
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I've been off cycle for a month and I half and I just notice a clearish, maybe slightly brown liquid on my nipple. I squeezed it and a little more came out. I am going to the dr Monday for a blood test but I wanted to see what you guys think this is. Please share your experience or any good info on this, thanks
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Off cycle with Low prolactin, low estro low test. Ouch!
Wonder what was actually causing him a probleM apart from actually having gynecomastia
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/would-starting-j...
Looks like op was adventurous leading up to developing breasts!
Bump.
RustyhookerGood one! I believe tread is below as anonymous.
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When I had high prolqctin I was leaking like a brown amberish liquid out my nips it started clear then turned to that
It's gotta be prolactin...cuz usually Estro won't give you leaky nipples! Some Caber off cycle should reverse it if I' right.
everything ok now?
def always know ur estro and prolaction levels bro.
high estro sux, high prolaction sux, both high estro and prolactin REALLY sux!
No my prolactin was a little low but the dr said she isn't worried and my estrogen was fine too. My test is just real low. She offered me androgel but I'm running hmg and torem right now. I'm planning on another blood test next week.
I haven't gotten any more liquid and she said it was nothing to worry about
Tren...................... bites back just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water haha
Guru status!!! I finished my last cycle with a month of tren. Good results but I doubt I'll ever use tren again. I draw the line at juicey nips
Keep up posted on this brother.
I go Monday. I talked to my nurse and everything is good except my test was at 160 and my triglycerides were a 100 points over but they are 100 points better than my last test. She checked prolactin too but I forgot to ask while I had her on the phone. I'll post up again after monday
Anon19-nors are progestins that act on the progesterone receptor (PR). PR activation in turn increases prolactin release from the anterior pituitary. This is what is causing the lactation.
Withdrawal of 19-nors will not stop prolactin release immediately since it is a downstream effect.
0.25mg of cabergoline twice a week before bedtime should resolve your symptoms. Keep it up for 3 months but don't increase the dose more often than monthly.
Don't worry about prolactin rebound when you stop the cabergoline. You have removed the cause of the problem by stopping the 19-nors.
If you cycle 19-nors again expect prolactin to need controlling again, particularly in the next year or so.
Dr B
Rustyhooker"Withdrawal of 19-nors will not stop prolactin release immediately since it is a downstream effect."
If it's an immediate stop then please explain why week after week there's a member posting about rebound weeks after cessation of the nors. Book science is great but members posts are real.
AnonSorry, but week after week I read posts where progestin and prolactin are considered the same.
The stimulus for prolactin release due to PR activation lasts for weeks or months. The dopamine agonist inhibits prolactin release from the anterior pituitary. When the agonist is stopped the stimulus for prolactin release remains. There's no rebound - it was always there.
Downstream effects from PR or AR (androgen receptor) activation can last months. Some of the effects of AAS are detectable in muscle for years after AAS use has stopped.
RustyhookerPerfect! Just like tests showing nor metabolites months later. Appreciate the full actions you've posted
AnonSo how long can something like deca realistically stimulate prolactin release after cessation?
If someone is using a dopamine agonist to block prolactin on cycle can that be sort of compared to using Nolvadex to block estrogen on cycle? And after stopping the drug if the mechanism that caused the problem is still active then the prolactin or estrogen sides will return? I know they work differently just trying to get a better understanding.
Really want to get a better grasp on what would be considered rebound and what would be considered common sides from steroids that were not suppressed long enough during or after cycle.
Thanks for your replies, this is all very interesting.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonI thought of a good example of PR activation lasting for months.
Everyone is familiar with the estrogen receptor (ER) antagonists tamoxifen and clomiphene used for jump starting your HPTA after a cycle.
When a 19-nor is used it takes even longer to kick start your HPTA. Sometimes months longer. PR activation by the progestins nandrolone and trenbolone suppresses your HPTA even more than just the ER activation from aromatizable steroids.
Something to lower prolactin release will help but you're talking about a dopamine agonist not a progesterone antagonist. You can lower prolactin levels but until the PR activation is gone the stimulus for prolactin release will be fighting with your caber, prami or bromocriptine.
Prolactin and progestin - NOT the same. Sorry, but bro' science don't make it so. :-)
Geez that was great. I just went to the dr yesterday for a blood test and she took samples of the nipple liquid. Maybe I'll get pharma caber
Did she use her mouth?
Lol!!! I was hoping it would squirt her in the eye
I really did laugh out loud!
RustyhookerYes, tell your Dr if he's running bloods anyways. Jello trip has ya below. Rebound happens. Maybe he gives you pharma caber.
Its cool man. If there's no lump its quite common. I usually have the same for about 3 months after cycle then it subsides. Its just hormones fluctuating an imbalance. One time my mate was lactating black shit, it was blood mixed in with it. Its all caused by imflamed mammary gland.
You feel a lump? Sounds like advanced gyno. what was your pct? Sounds like you are still shut down. I got gyno a month after a cycle once. I think I just wrapped up pct. I went back on nolvadex and didnt help. I didnt have letro back then.
Anonhttp://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2009-1238
Were you using a dopamine agonist like caber or prami? There is something called dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome where Hyperprolactinemia can occur after stopping dopamine agonists. Usually it is more common in long term therapy but I guess its a possibility, the above study only requires 3 months of use.
That's kinda crazy. Thanks for posting that link!
AnonYeah its a little crazy, all this shit we do on cycle sometimes could possibly come back and bite us in the ass lol
Lol yeah ain't that the truth!
AnonIm going to do a bigger write up on this in the next week or so. I think its something people should be aware of.
That would be great man. I'll be watching for it. I'm ab to send you a FR. If you can remember. Please send me a PM and let me know when you post it up.
I used caber in the beginning of my cycle but I stopped using it after about a month. So I've been off caber for 3 or 4 months
AnonAny bloodwork during or post cycle?
Yes, it's posted. I'm going for another one on monday
AnonRight on, guess see what it says and go from there.
Were you running deca?
Yes but that was two months ago
Yeah but deca can stay in your system for a long time. It will also linger in fat deposits and as you burn fat it will release deca into your blood stream again. That why it's detectable for so long. Even if you're not burning fat it can still pulsate deca "so to speak". Until its all gone. It's very possible that you're experiencing prolactin sides.
Is it wise to tell my dr about the leaky nips or just keep it to myself and get a separate blood test for prolactin?
I would tell my doc. He knows that I juice. Why wouldn't ask him ab it?
Yeah but mine doesn't. I'm going to have her test my testosterone but i'm just not sure if the leaky nips will be an obvious sign of me juicing
AnonYes it will be... High test.. Elevated estro
But there's a law.... Doctor /patient confidentiality
Idk man. I guess if you don't want her to know you could always put a band aid over them. That sucks she doesn't know. Guess I'm fortunate to have a cool pcp. I really think you should grab some caber or prami and see if that helps.
lol >band aid
It's not that bad . It's very very little but I noticed
Ha ha sorry man. Had to say it.