+ 3 Does Tren affect the people around you?
I am a powerlifter and have never taken tren before and am planning on taking it to increase strength and lean up (with good diet). My question is does it really affect the people around you due to the way you acted? Done my research and people are saying how it changed them mentally and how it affected people around them.
I admit the one compound that made me irritated was anadrol, but nothing horrible; was able to control. That was when I was training for strength and gain size. I now use dbol to gain size now and it doesn't make me feel lethargic as Anadrol.
Back to Tren, for those of you who used it was it worth it? And did people around you notice the way you change? I know the sides is one thing but losing people around you is another. I am raising a 9 weeks old puppy right now and he's like a son to me, and yes he does cry a lot and always want me to hold him and he sleeps on me and I always forgive him.
I know people are going to say everyone's different. But I read that Tren WILL/CAN change you.
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In the end its your actions , which means you would have to act on a thought which in the end is a thought process. If you make a poor decision don't blame the drug blame yourself you made the choice. Its not like you didn't have a choice.
Whats the deal with Tren and gyno???
It doesnt aromatize, so there should be no gyno.
While it may raise prolactin, prolactin doesn;t cause gyno...,. just some lactation at very high levels.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/prolactin-ind... click the links and read through post. Prolactin induced gyno is very much real in my humble opinion along with many doctors around the world. Don't know where your getting information brother. This topic has been brought up over and over and over with links to extremely factual articles on the subject. Everyone continues to ask but never uses the search function.
I've usually cleared half my plate by the time my girlfriend has finished hers (and she isn't heavy!) yet on tren she has barely started eating and I'm already done. Absolute eating machine.
Vivid dreams are weird.
A lot more aggressive and irritable.
Pimples (more so than other cycles).
More gyno.
But emotionally, I'm just more irritable, angry and a lot more confident. You can just feel like a God walking into a room, it's amazing.
Agree with the earlier post regarding being drunk on it being a terrible idea. I got really drunk the other weekend and I ended up facebooking an old love interest and it left me feeling like utter shit for days. I've avoided looking at her profile for years no matter how drunk I was off cycle. It isn't a coincidence. A drunk guy on tren is going to be all over the place emotionally.
Yes I fell it changes people around you. Why ?? Because it changes you.
I had been planning to start a tren ace blast on June 1st for six months. Then I met a girl on a business trip last month, we hit it off very well, started talking on the phone every night/Skyping every night and I am going to visit her for a week the third week of June (we live about 6 hrs apart). I know what tren does to me and as soon as the idea of visiting her for a week became a reality I decided to delay the start of my tren blast until July 1st.
Will it throw off my planning? Yes
Have I been working to get to a certain point physically for 6 months by June 1st to be ready for this tren blast? Yes
Do I wish that I was 3 days into a tren blast right now? Yes
Was delaying it for a month to avoid the risk of ruining what has the potential to be a very good thing? Fuck no. It was instantaneous
Tren is a beast and you have to respect it. You have to know how it affects you and act accordingly. It doesn't make me into a roid raging murderer, but it changes who I am.
I am a very nice, easy going, kind harder laid back guy who gets off by helping others and being selfless. Tren makes me into an egotistical, self centered, uptight, edgy asshole and it is very obvious to those who know me.
You have to know yourself and know tren before jumping in
Interesting stuff.
dontgivemeadviceSo reading some of the comments I've had a largely different experience. I am a very very mellow dude and don't get mad except for rare situations. I go from calm to rage, there really is no medium ground for me. With that being said I have rarely had "road rage". I say rarely because in several years I have maybe had 3-4 outburst. I think I would have had them anyways, but the steroids did heighten them. As for tren, I haven't noticed any measurable rage from it. That is me though and I may very well be the exception for this situation.like I said before. I am a very mellow and easy going person. I don't know your cycle history except for the Orals you mentioned. I would wait to use tren until like your 5-8 full oil and oral cycle. I myself was a dumbass and started aas very early. Now for me to see any good gains I have to run larger amounts, train stupid hard, and eat clean and aggressively. Play it safe. Stay with test.
It is unpredictable. That feeling I get after moving some serious weight is the feeling I walk around with pretty much everyday when I'm running tren. I actually hope that someone will say something to give me a reason to drop them. Thank God it never happened. Sex is unbelievable. I love those parts, I'd do it year round if I could. On the other hand, my girlfriend enjoys the libido and the look it produces, but she hates the other side of it. I've found that I convince my self that the problem lies in her and I have no part in the fights we had and I'll just keep building my case, minute after minute, day after day. I just CANT see her side. If I feel this good, I can't be wrong right? UGH. That's just me and my experience. "Dance with the devil" is no exaggeration. Hope this helps you.
I've been following this thread since it was posted for educational purposes and as a kind of reference since my guy is running tren and thought I'd throw in my two cents as a partner and female..it's not something to be taken lightly. We have been in a relationship for two years and I've seen him go through I think, four cycles. This current cycle has been through us both on contest prep, which adds a whole other stress level. This is his second tren cycle and if I didn't know he was on tren, I would be considering some couples therapy or some real serious talks about out relationship. It seems the effects have been progressive, started out to where he could identify and control it, but as our prep has gotten harder, the effects seem to take over more often then not. And my guy is a extremely mellow, unagressive induvidual and we have an amazing relationship. But on tren, he snaps at the stupidest things, gets irritated at me for the littlest things and has withdrawn into himself more then I believe is healthy. His energy and drive is way way down and we will go days we don't say more then thirty words to each other. I had a serious conversation last night with him about this and told him, the things you break during your cycle, you can't always fix when you come off a cycle. Not just talking about your body, but the relationships you have with your friends, family, co workers, they are all affected by how you are on a cycle. And is it really worth it to seriously mess it up for a single compound? You might not even know what you are loosing till its gone. Don't let a goal change who you are as a person. And the scary thing is, you might not even see the change in yourself untill it has gotten too far. I sympathize with any partner that is unaware of her guy being on tren, because we have just as hard of a time watching you go through it. It's a compound that takes commitment, trust, patience and extreme understanding, and sometimes even then, it's still not worth it...just my two cents
or maybe four, sorry this was a little long lol
An excellent response, very well said.
That's the most valuable feedback in this thread. It's helpful to hear the effects it has on our partners direct from one of the ladies.
Great perspective and very informative. I hope everyone who is in a relationship and is thinking about or is using tren, reads this. Thanks! +2
Yeah I do as well! Be prepared for what they are getting themselves into..
Thanks for this! ^^^^^
No worries!
I started to comment yesterday and got called away. Thank you for chiming in on this, we definitely appreciate another female perspective on this issue.
No problem, glad you guys welcome the input!
We do, I try to get my wife to participate more too, but not much luck.
How long did it take to for you to see results of his physique? And on what week did the attitude and behavior change? Does it make him feel like a god or just cocky like other people have mention aka 'Alpha' male?
I'd say it took about four to five weeks to see physical changes, but it wasn't the only compound in his cycle so I can't attribute his physique fully to the tren. He also did some very dramatic diet changed and that played a huge role as well. I don't know if it makes him feel god-like and he isnt naturally a cocky guy but I would say there is an aquired air of superiority. The negitive addittude changes were more snowball effect, started out as minor things the first six week and got progressively worse as dieting got more intense.
I'm on ole TRT guy, used Tren A 3 times, 1-6 week blast, (to introduce myself), then 2-8 week cycles/blasts. Kept my TRT dose cyp at around 100-150mg per week, while running Tren over top starting at 50mgs ED. 2nd blast was same cyp dose, increased my Tren A to 100mgs ED, same with 3rd, played with my doses.. anyhoo, I never felt like Superman or Hulk, No HUGE gain in strength, of course there was some, but moderate.... sides sucked for me...constant sweating, feeling hot, no sleep, cranky as hell... I think more so from lack of sleep. Maybe should have stacked it with test prop and played with my test dose a little, dunno. I did see results, leaned out quite a bit, but not worth the suffering if you ask me. Prolly try it again down the road though, LoL!!!!
Rosser01I'm my experience tren had me up and down, one minute I would be totally pissed off and the next its like nothing ever happened and I would just snap out over the stupidest shit until I had to keep telling myself that it was in fact the tren that was making me act like a pus co so to speak. But yes it was deff worth it in the long run..!! So if you can get the aggressiveness under wraps than its deff worth it..!!
What were the things you notice when someone is running tren? Is it hard to control the attitude and behavior? Was it the vibe the gives things away? You just become this cocky prick?
Tren will affect you, how idk everyone is different it will make your sweat smell different but seems girls smell it and go out there way to smile and make conversation. Don't even have to say the first word. I will say though off tren I'm chill laid back let shit go. Try to talk things out kinda guy. On tren and mast together especially. It makes me violent and aggressive. I'll go up in anyone's face and knock them out before they get done with the first shit talking sentence. It complete changes my state of mind. On your comment below the guys are exaggerating. Some people get a God complex. Like I'm the shit and I know it and can knock any mfer out in this room. I've even approach 3 guys on tren by myself to fight. It can be crazy the dreams and sweating are crazy but the emotional and mental change for me is more insane. Its like I feel bullet proof and have balls of brass. But that's not always good to be like that gotta take a step back and look at the situation it makes me flip out in a snap of a finger. Not like on my daughter or wife. But in a matter of seconds I can be seeing red
I feel you there bro, it has the same effect on me. My fuse gets very short on tren
It doesn't take much bud. I meant to say the people below arnt exaggerating about some side effects. Its a great hormone and does wonders just needs to be respected. Don't recommend it for newbies, but don't think it needs to be a hormone and try to scare people away from if there ready to try it with enough prior cycles. The mystique about tren was said below every tren cycle is different its not really predictable. Well I can predict my temper will get short but the sweats and sleep issues come and go. Sometimes I wake up constantly and sometimes just sitting on my couch I break out sweating balls with the ac on for no reason
Yeah your spot on with that. The two things that I know for sure are coming are a short temper and indigestion from hell. The rest- I try to prepare myself for the worst and hope for the best. I think the key is knowing what to expect and recognizing/acknowledging it as the hormone so it doesn't go to your head (as much as possible at least) As fucked up as it is just talking about the sides is making me want to go crack open one of the vials on my treasure chest and morph into a freakin werewolf real quick like.
Does anyone else get a distinct metallic taste in your mouth after pinning ace?
AnonCrazy I saw this thread when it was first created and never bother to open it until tonight..! I pretty much rolled my eyes when I read the title that's why I didn't bother clicking. I was running test and deca at the time and everything with me and my relationship was fine after many things that went down in the past... Fast forward to today and it's been about two weeks on tren and holy shit I really put a deep blemish on my relationship and not even sure if we are together. I'm in control of that my girlfriend loves me but holy shit I get crazy paranoia at random times... We were supposed to go to Vegas for her birthday and I ended up ending things with her and making our relationship look horrible to all her friends and family and my friends too... I love the girl and she loves me but I'm the type of person who holds pretty strong grudges if you fuck with me the wrong way and boy does that amplify on tren... Wish I could put my story out here and get an ass whooping from you all because I already know I'm in the wrong in my relationship but I can't seem to be mature about it and move on.
Long story short my first tren run was fine, my second and third tren run there is a lot more paranoia and trust issues that I just can't seem to overcome when I start thinking about it I get hard headed. I would be careful with tren is all I'm saying even though when this thread was first created I rolled my eyes and never bothered to click on it... Now that I'm on a tren run it reminded me that the sides are definitely real. Thanks for understanding everybody
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYou know the cure. Stop using tren. You bring up a theme that we have all heard repeated about tren and that is the relationship paranoia. If you are in any way the jealous type, even if it is just minor when not on AAS it will be amplified and then amplified tenfold by tren. If your relationship is strained in any way, shape or form DO NOT USE TREN. The damage you can do to the relationship and the woman you love may well be irreparable. Think long and hard before you plunge the needle in..
dontgivemeadviceSolid solid advice man. Muscle gains are important but not as important as the love of your life.
I could not agree more. Hell even if the relationship isn't strained tren can and will strain it. I lost a damn good girl in part to tren... Excuse me... My own personal behavior that was influenced by my decision to use tren... And now I only use it when I am single. The relationship paranoia is no joke. I am planning a 4-6 week (depending on sides) tren blast in about a month but that is because I am single and not worried about my dog cheating on me ;-)
Did you get into fights while on tren? There will be people talking sh!t and put you down because they're hating on you; can imagine on tren you don't let shit go easy.
I came real close to it last saturday night. Had a drunk just being stupid. The guy smashes into me from behind (second incident) and tries scurrying away through the crowd, but I was locked in and moving quickly. All of a sudden a dude as big as me pops up in front of me and says "hey, look at my eyes", still enraged I was like WTF, after he said it again I started to come back. He explained that was his idiot brother and he has no idea wtf his problem was and apologized on his behalf. By this time my wife is in the mix after the original offender,lol. We ended up settling it down but I was completely blanked out for a second there. The brother, judging by looking at him is no stranger to AAS and our lifestyle, he said my eyes were blank, when I went after his brother,lol
I have never lost it bad enough to hit anyone but I have come very close. To put that in perspective though, I have never hit anyone in my entire life other than in sheer sleep defense and even then I try to avoid it. On tren I tend to say the dickheadish things that normally I would just think to myself
Not worth it. Looking great for a few weeks is just not worth it. I've lost good jobs, girlfriends... Wish I never touched the stuff.
You definately prioritised wrong bro no offence, just an opinion.
I respect your opinion, but I don't understand what you mean.
Sorry, my bad. You prioritise what is more important to you and i related myself to your situation.
Would not want to loose my gf and job just because a compound, but hey that is just me, for all i know you could be a sponsored pro making shitloads of cash so again, sorry.
yes and the crazy thing is you dont even realize that its affecting them, when i run tren i turn into an asshole , i ran tren 3 times and have 3 vials of tren ace in my stash and if i cant get rid of em im jus gonna toss em, me and tren do not mix well , i say if u are prone to anxiety and depression stay far away , your have to be strong minded if u wanna uSe tren
Yeah man the stuff is no joke. The craziest thing to me is that I feel "justified" when I am a dick to people while I am running it. Not justified in the sense that I am better than them, justified in the sense that someone can say or do something that normally would not bother me but when I am on tren I interpret it as them being the apex of an asshole.
On a lesser note it gives me God awful indigestion and nothing seems to help
I don't get heartburn on tren, usually just anavar gives it to me occasionally. But I hear ya on feeling like a justified asshole to people. I've learned at work to just keep it cool and casual and just smile and laugh most of the day with people. There's enough pranksters at my work to make the day go by. Its strange though I never get pranked on. I think guys can smell the alpha pheramones as well honestly. Seems like more guys give me respect on high doses of test or tren. I know it affects women for sure. Complete strangers just come up and grab your arms or touch your shoulders flirting laughing. Like ya bitch youve just been trened. Smell it up
yea lol heartburn a bottle of tums wont even fix
Yeah man it is crazy!
What were the things you realize now that you're off? And people are making threads saying how tren is the best of the best. Makes you grainy, cocky, "alphaness", ect ect. But they are exaggerating. How did it made you feel?
they are absolutely not exxaggerating , its is the god of them all. strength gains are tremendois , rock hard ,it completely transforms ur body, but with ups comes downs, i comptely lose my sex drive while on tren , crazy paranoid thoughts , anxiety , high blood pressure , injured my knee due to extreme quick strength gains ....even at 400mg a week even while using prami caber adex , etc, 2 weeks after coming off tren i get extemely depressed that lasts about a few weeks , i was actually contemplating goin on anti depressants on my second run with tren, to me the reward is not worth the risk, ive gone as high as 700mg a week , everyones different tho, my suggestion is to run 200mg a week to start and see what u wanna do from there
How was your diet like? People say you can eat anything you want. But I always have a clean diet no matter what.
And I hear that Tren actually makes you horny.
Rosser01I was taking 100mg a day of it for 8 weeks with a small dose of prop mixed in and my sex drive was through the roof, also I kept my calorie intake low and by the end of the tenth week my body looked totally different.
i ate clean with occasional cheat days ,u can def be more lenient oh ur diet thats for sure , and idk everyones different ,i lost my sex drive