Hey guys. First off, I love coming in here and seeing how active and helpful everyone is. It's really awesome to see such an active community!
I have run about half a dozen cycles over the past 3 years and have ALWAYS bought everything beforehand - gear, cycle support, PCT. This is the first time I haven't bought everything at once due to not enough cash on hand. I am about 3 weeks into my cycle of Tren Ace and Test Prop.
I ordered some Tren Ace and Test Prop from him about 4 weeks back.
I will run out of Tren in about 8 days. New injectables will go up in the next couple days so say I get to order more Tren and Prop by Wednesday. Week or so to ship, will get sometime the week after next. My question is, would I be ok if I just keep running the Prop until he gets more Tren for me to order? I have enough Prop for about 2 weeks since I'm running it lower than the Tren. Then I will just add the Tren back on and continue with my normal cycle schedule once I get it.
I don't want to order from anyone else because I do my research and know this is as good as I'm going to get right now. You guys have any thoughts?
I, personally, would start splitting my tren dose in half to make it last longer, and if I cut my tren, im going to cut my test prop as well, so say 100mg test prop/100mg tren ace EOD, I would go 50mg test prop/50mg tren ace EOD. Then when you have your gear in, up back to where you were. Honestly you shouldn't tell a huge difference in the short time you are talking about, 1-2weeks, being that both prop/ace are short esters by cutting them in half to make the tren ace last, its all about blood levels.
Can I ask why you would run higher dosages of tren than prop. I'm not positive but I swear your should always run equal or less tren than test. I've always ran them equally. I also hope you have caber on hand. Especially running higher tren dosages.
Actually that's the more common way tren is ran. Actually it's the way tren should be ran. People who run tren want the tren to be the primary compound. I do the same thing. I'm running test/ tren enanthate. E 3.5 days I do 1 full cc (200mg) tren and 1/2cc (150mg) test. Actually I try to get the test a little under half cc so it's closer to 100mg this way its a 2 to 1 ratio. But it's very hard with such a wide syringe to load even less then 1/2 cc. .. Really we are only running the test cause we know were shutting natty test down and we need it. But with a tren cycle. It's the tren "look" we're going after, and want that to be the primary compound.
Thanks for the info. I was misled. I will definitely be running different dosages from now on. I have been trying to lean bulk with prop,tren ace and tbol at 60mg Ed. I have made some great progress in the last 8 weeks but have been having sides and now I know why. I've even been struggling to keep nipple tenderness down running adex. As soon as get it to go away it comes back in like two days of stopping so I pretty much can't stop using the adex. Now I need caber because tren dick it near. I can tell even though I'm still functioning. Just one one session with the old lady. Not 2-4 like I usually am.
Yeah. That's one of the challenges we face with running tren. If then gyno related sides begin to show up , it's hard to be certain if it's prolactin from the tren or aromatisation from the test. That's why I always run both caber and an AI. I'd suggest order your caber if you do at already have it. and get "Aromasin ".... If your having sides that are coming and going with the Adex then switch over to the ORHER AI "aromasin" Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor. We don't know for sure but you might be have esteogen rebound when you go off the Adex. Aromasin being a suicide inhibitor, you won't have to worry about esteogen rebound. That should eliminate that problem if aromatisation is the issue. And also run caber at .5mg E3D and if prolactin for the 19nor coupound (tren)... That should solve that problem.
Now im going to say something that not everyone will agree with and that's ok. But I don't believe in getting cycle aids to have "on hand". I buy them , and i RUN them. I run long cycles and I run serious compounds IE tren. So why even give the problem a chance to exist when I can keep it in check from the door. I start my AI's and caber at about a month to 6 weeks in. No matter what. I don't wait untill my nipples are sore, or leaking, or feel a lump behind one to say "oh shit" maybe I should take that AI that's been im my drawer for 8 weeks that I forgot about."
Not being sarcastic with you. So dont take take that wrong. I want to help. And It just bothers me when I hear guys tell a newbie to get an AI to "keep on hand ". Or a newbie just states on his own that "yeah, I got my ai on hand just in case.
Good luck brother. Hope it all works out for you b
Relating to splitting my tren and test in half to stretch until MP gets more... Should I be expecting increase in sides since I'm cutting them in half for a week or so? I've been taking an AI and Prami whole cycle because I'm prone to gyno.
Thanks for the info! Starting tren/test cycle this week. Ive always ran more test than tren and the last two cycles had terrible sides. Enough that I stuck to just test for a couple years.
Good info man. And. Good point. It's kinda a long story but basically I ran test and tren last cycle and found out the test was fake but the tren wasn't. I've never had problems with tren. It usually makes me like a fuckin bat. But I got some mp prop and took a a month off the tren and started it back up. I pretty much ran tren alone for 10 weeks because of a lousy source. So that's kinda why this time I've been struggling to keep everything in check. I've ran tren Prob 8 times and never needed caber but I definately do now and will always use it from now on. Glad I found a new source that's legit as hell so I don't have to worry about some dick screwing up my body for a little cash.
That's a pretty average, pretty good dose bro. You like ace, I like enan. Enan is dosed at 200mg/ml. So following the traditional E 3.5 D schedule means 400mg wk. so your only doing an extra 50mg/wk then me. if I was running ace/prop by themselves, Id probably be doing the same dose as you
I hate how you try to learn shit on the Internet and get wrong information. I spent so much time studying before I ran tren and know I read multiple times to not run higher tren. I haven't run it in a while and just recently started getting sides and now I know why.
I always run higher tren, science proves tren beats test out for receptors, thus if you run higher test, you have free test that will cause estrogen sides. You will have far less sides with higher tren then test, I actually run 300mg prop and 600mg tren currently, and this keeps my sides down, of course everyone is different, and every tren cycle will affect you different. Also keep caber on hand in case you get tren d!ick.
Lol. I just realized something. I was actually talking to "juiceda58"..... But I think he'll figure it out if he's still reading the forum.
But absolutely gotta get on the tren train before summer. I run a real long cycle every year around this time. Usually April to August .. This year I could wait any longer, I started late March. Obviously I won't run the tren the whole time. I'll drop the tren after the first 8 weeks. I'll be nice and toned and hardened up by then.. But I'll stay on the test for around 18 weeks. Maybe the last 4 weeks I'll toss in some dbol just cause I got it. Blow myself up a little more. I had an opportunity to get them little blue hearts everyone loves so I just could let them pass me by without scooping them up.
Or I hear there great for bringing, although I always have done a traditional pct. Never bridged before.
Ok, yea, I would stick to ED, sincd that's what your bloods are used too, just cut it in half like you laid out, I have also seen people just cut tren ace out all the way and pick it back up, personally I would just cut it down to make it last, and if push comes to shove, do you have your PCT on hand incase worst case scenario?
Yep, have my PCT and my cycle support (prami, arimidex). THAT I made sure to get from experience with past cycles. Taking Letro now also instead of arimidex because gyno flair up which sucks :(
Thanks for your input man. I will just cut them in half and stick to ED.
No problem, keep us updated with your progress, we are pretty tight nit group around here, so if you ever have any thoughts, questions or inputs, we all look after eachother
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Hey guys. First off, I love coming in here and seeing how active and helpful everyone is. It's really awesome to see such an active community!
I have run about half a dozen cycles over the past 3 years and have ALWAYS bought everything beforehand - gear, cycle support, PCT. This is the first time I haven't bought everything at once due to not enough cash on hand. I am about 3 weeks into my cycle of Tren Ace and Test Prop.
I ordered some Tren Ace and Test Prop from him about 4 weeks back.
I will run out of Tren in about 8 days. New injectables will go up in the next couple days so say I get to order more Tren and Prop by Wednesday. Week or so to ship, will get sometime the week after next. My question is, would I be ok if I just keep running the Prop until he gets more Tren for me to order? I have enough Prop for about 2 weeks since I'm running it lower than the Tren. Then I will just add the Tren back on and continue with my normal cycle schedule once I get it.
I don't want to order from anyone else because I do my research and know this is as good as I'm going to get right now. You guys have any thoughts?
I, personally, would start splitting my tren dose in half to make it last longer, and if I cut my tren, im going to cut my test prop as well, so say 100mg test prop/100mg tren ace EOD, I would go 50mg test prop/50mg tren ace EOD. Then when you have your gear in, up back to where you were. Honestly you shouldn't tell a huge difference in the short time you are talking about, 1-2weeks, being that both prop/ace are short esters by cutting them in half to make the tren ace last, its all about blood levels.
X2. That's your best bet and really your only option. You have to start stretching it out.
Yea I'm running 100 Tren ED and 75 Prop ED to keep blood levels as stable as possible.
You think I should switch to EOD at same dosage to save the gear or do like what you were saying and just split them in half and stick to ED?
So...
100 Tren and 75 of Prop EOD
or...
50 Tren and around 37 of Prop ED
Thanks for your input
Can I ask why you would run higher dosages of tren than prop. I'm not positive but I swear your should always run equal or less tren than test. I've always ran them equally. I also hope you have caber on hand. Especially running higher tren dosages.
Actually that's the more common way tren is ran. Actually it's the way tren should be ran. People who run tren want the tren to be the primary compound. I do the same thing. I'm running test/ tren enanthate. E 3.5 days I do 1 full cc (200mg) tren and 1/2cc (150mg) test. Actually I try to get the test a little under half cc so it's closer to 100mg this way its a 2 to 1 ratio. But it's very hard with such a wide syringe to load even less then 1/2 cc. .. Really we are only running the test cause we know were shutting natty test down and we need it. But with a tren cycle. It's the tren "look" we're going after, and want that to be the primary compound.
Thanks for the info. I was misled. I will definitely be running different dosages from now on. I have been trying to lean bulk with prop,tren ace and tbol at 60mg Ed. I have made some great progress in the last 8 weeks but have been having sides and now I know why. I've even been struggling to keep nipple tenderness down running adex. As soon as get it to go away it comes back in like two days of stopping so I pretty much can't stop using the adex. Now I need caber because tren dick it near. I can tell even though I'm still functioning. Just one one session with the old lady. Not 2-4 like I usually am.
Yeah. That's one of the challenges we face with running tren. If then gyno related sides begin to show up , it's hard to be certain if it's prolactin from the tren or aromatisation from the test. That's why I always run both caber and an AI. I'd suggest order your caber if you do at already have it. and get "Aromasin ".... If your having sides that are coming and going with the Adex then switch over to the ORHER AI "aromasin" Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor. We don't know for sure but you might be have esteogen rebound when you go off the Adex. Aromasin being a suicide inhibitor, you won't have to worry about esteogen rebound. That should eliminate that problem if aromatisation is the issue. And also run caber at .5mg E3D and if prolactin for the 19nor coupound (tren)... That should solve that problem.
Now im going to say something that not everyone will agree with and that's ok. But I don't believe in getting cycle aids to have "on hand". I buy them , and i RUN them. I run long cycles and I run serious compounds IE tren. So why even give the problem a chance to exist when I can keep it in check from the door. I start my AI's and caber at about a month to 6 weeks in. No matter what. I don't wait untill my nipples are sore, or leaking, or feel a lump behind one to say "oh shit" maybe I should take that AI that's been im my drawer for 8 weeks that I forgot about."
Not being sarcastic with you. So dont take take that wrong. I want to help. And It just bothers me when I hear guys tell a newbie to get an AI to "keep on hand ". Or a newbie just states on his own that "yeah, I got my ai on hand just in case.
Good luck brother. Hope it all works out for you b
Relating to splitting my tren and test in half to stretch until MP gets more... Should I be expecting increase in sides since I'm cutting them in half for a week or so? I've been taking an AI and Prami whole cycle because I'm prone to gyno.
Thanks!
Thanks for the info! Starting tren/test cycle this week. Ive always ran more test than tren and the last two cycles had terrible sides. Enough that I stuck to just test for a couple years.
Good info man. And. Good point. It's kinda a long story but basically I ran test and tren last cycle and found out the test was fake but the tren wasn't. I've never had problems with tren. It usually makes me like a fuckin bat. But I got some mp prop and took a a month off the tren and started it back up. I pretty much ran tren alone for 10 weeks because of a lousy source. So that's kinda why this time I've been struggling to keep everything in check. I've ran tren Prob 8 times and never needed caber but I definately do now and will always use it from now on. Glad I found a new source that's legit as hell so I don't have to worry about some dick screwing up my body for a little cash.
alleyesonmeMy body loves tren
150mg eod
That's a pretty average, pretty good dose bro. You like ace, I like enan. Enan is dosed at 200mg/ml. So following the traditional E 3.5 D schedule means 400mg wk. so your only doing an extra 50mg/wk then me. if I was running ace/prop by themselves, Id probably be doing the same dose as you
I've been running 150mg eod prop and 100mg eod tren. Have had amazing results but It looks like I'm going to change my dosages next pin.
alleyesonmeNice bro
Im counting the days till my.nandro test blast offffff
Weeeeeeeeeeee
You normally get less sides running tren higher. You should visit the forum, everything you need to know is there...
I hate how you try to learn shit on the Internet and get wrong information. I spent so much time studying before I ran tren and know I read multiple times to not run higher tren. I haven't run it in a while and just recently started getting sides and now I know why.
I always run higher tren, science proves tren beats test out for receptors, thus if you run higher test, you have free test that will cause estrogen sides. You will have far less sides with higher tren then test, I actually run 300mg prop and 600mg tren currently, and this keeps my sides down, of course everyone is different, and every tren cycle will affect you different. Also keep caber on hand in case you get tren d!ick.
Bingo!!!!..,... Betz know how to run tren!
Yes. Unfortunately you were previously given the wrong information.
Lol. I just realized something. I was actually talking to "juiceda58"..... But I think he'll figure it out if he's still reading the forum.
But absolutely gotta get on the tren train before summer. I run a real long cycle every year around this time. Usually April to August .. This year I could wait any longer, I started late March. Obviously I won't run the tren the whole time. I'll drop the tren after the first 8 weeks. I'll be nice and toned and hardened up by then.. But I'll stay on the test for around 18 weeks. Maybe the last 4 weeks I'll toss in some dbol just cause I got it. Blow myself up a little more. I had an opportunity to get them little blue hearts everyone loves so I just could let them pass me by without scooping them up.
Or I hear there great for bringing, although I always have done a traditional pct. Never bridged before.
Yeah me and betz7 had a conversation last night and came up with a new plan.
yezzir! gotta get on the tren train before summer !
Great info man. Have a few more questions. About to pm you if you will accept my fr.
10 fo man, fr accepted.
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Ok, yea, I would stick to ED, sincd that's what your bloods are used too, just cut it in half like you laid out, I have also seen people just cut tren ace out all the way and pick it back up, personally I would just cut it down to make it last, and if push comes to shove, do you have your PCT on hand incase worst case scenario?
Yep, have my PCT and my cycle support (prami, arimidex). THAT I made sure to get from experience with past cycles. Taking Letro now also instead of arimidex because gyno flair up which sucks :(
Thanks for your input man. I will just cut them in half and stick to ED.
No problem, keep us updated with your progress, we are pretty tight nit group around here, so if you ever have any thoughts, questions or inputs, we all look after eachother
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those 3 test compounds, thanks.