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Muta gets a year..

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Expected to see alot more time...hmmm, wonder why? Snitch maybe?

http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/619643/Bazetta-man-gets-...

KAM1314's picture

And that's before the feds may or may not bring up more charges...especially for tax free cash income. They damn well know that there's a lot more then 200k just lying around. In all honesty there is way more to the whole story and trial that any of us here will ever know.

McMeanie87's picture

Yup..absolutely right,only those involved will ever know the full story, and the poor bastards who he wrote statements on.

Trapsquatch's picture

Alright this post is taking a turn towards becoming just a big gossip post with everyone wanting to know the dirty little details save that shit for the Salon guys...Dude is busted Case Closed

selfster19's picture

Yes sir...sorry sir.......

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Trapsquatch's picture

Its okay just drop and give me 13 burpies LoL

selfster19's picture

Man i hated burpies!!....never did em jus jogged the yard an hit the weight pile an slammed tuna an ramen lol

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Gymjunkie01's picture

Burpies suck bro .. lol

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McMeanie87's picture

X2...definently not a fan of them either.

McMeanie87's picture

Right away sir....lol..just bustin ur balls trap

Trapsquatch's picture

All good brotha My post was inspired by magicman asking someone to pm him the details...that kind of talk reminds me of the oprah winfrey show LoL

killroy's picture

Muta was really something else ... The kid never slept... He was always online answering questions and helping people on here. This sort of work ethic is crazy at his age considering the fact that he was in school full time. His level of intelligence ... His maturity in the way he handled business and the posts he made blew away some of the vets in the business. it's too bad our nations laws is making a felon out of this guy but it's good he only got a year. he'll have a long road ahead of him trying to get a job with this on his record. But any employer would be lucky to have this guy on their payroll. I wish him the best.

McMeanie87's picture

the kid definently has a bright future if he can expunge these charges one day..

Pale's picture

Or the fact that he had a crystal clear record and has been an otherwise good student combined with a damn good defense attorney. Good for him is all I can say. He always treated me well and I wish him well in return.

BTW, if he was snitching there would be a couple people around here not with us anymore.

Here is a better link. http://www.vindy.com/news/2014/oct/31/student-gets-prison-time-for-inter...

After reading this article I am even more convinced he didn't snitch. If he is going to prison instead of Jail he will be out in six months.

j1980's picture

Best article I've read on the situation so far. Muta always treated me good as well. My opinion is that he didn't snitch. He was just a young college kid with a clean record, money, and a good lawyer who got busted. Granted he was operating a business like this.... I agree bro. He didn't snitch.

Pale's picture

Read further down. Sadly, it would appear he did..

j1980's picture

Well shit. Guess I was wrong.

Doss's picture

There are quite a few that you don't see anymore, if you really think about it. I won't get into any personal details beyond this: I have been party to federal judicial system and there are certain aspects that, unless you've been subject to, you don't fully understand. Reduced and/or vacated sentences, even possibility of making bail, comes with a price brother. Without paying the cost, there is zero possibility of reaching either of those outcomes.

Regardless, it's old news, so who really cares? Right?

Doss's picture

Nope. Regardless of what has or hasn't taken place, it's of no interest to me whatsoever. Never met the guy. Ran his gear; loved it. Seen a lot of folks come and go. How or why they do is something very few will ever truly know the details. I simply brought up my points bc of the amount of assumptions people seem to make on a topic or set of topics they may not truly understand or be privy to.

The "rumor mill" or "gossip corner" is not much of an interest to me nor one of the reasons I remain a member (not implying anything towards you or anyone else, of course). One thing is for certain: the more wrapped up you become with the behind-the-scenes politics, the more Eroids loses what you're actually here to gain from it.

Doss's picture

I hear ya bro. Lesson I learned long ago is to keep it between the lines and you hit less to worry about. I make plenty in my career to not have to hustle (not directing towards anyone if course). I just like to stay healthy and live a lifestyle.

Pale's picture

More information from a reliable source has come to me and I take it back. Apparently he did snitch on some good people.

Pale's picture

The list is long bro. I really don't know who all the sources he turned on are. Some of them obviously stuck their neck out too far with him and got chopped. Others were probably a little more careful and dodged their date on the chopping block, for now anyway. The truth is shrouded in shadows. Short of getting muta's court records we likely will never know.

Pale's picture

Who's the pussy negger?

tonytulo's picture

probably a fat thumb bro I one upped it , I hate when people neg someone if they plain just don't agree with em so we'll go with fat thumb

Pale's picture

Could be bro, matter of fact I bet it was. There was nothing in that post that I could see a neg for,lol

McMeanie87's picture

This is probably the closest to getting any court records..clerk of courts may provide some info if you guys get curious... http://clerk.co.trumbull.oh.us

Pale's picture

http://courts.co.trumbull.oh.us/eservices/?x=TyAymX3lpJCIDh3ioYFUI3mUKZa2nxxboJxLeBfdwrWvZd8IjoVW0XyVRY*G7ukYlTeLPwJb0u9y1dIeBJjw

Not sure if that link will work without entering the info. But just put in Joseph Stiver and it will show all the court action. It doesn't tell much. The prosecutors office, his attorney and the TAG unit no doubt know who he snitched on.

McMeanie87's picture

T.A.G(trumbull.ashtabula.geauga counties) aint no joke..always see them taking down drug rings around here..think the clerk of courts only shows charges and the dates and what the outcome of the case is.

dudebro's picture

and don't forget about his little mailing list he started for the police.

on a side note, sent you a fr. got a gh question for you.

tonytulo's picture

Only a real man can admit when theyre wrong, anyone who cannot admit when they are mistaken /wrong doesnt have integrity in my eyes. An pale has integrity.

Pale's picture

Thanks bro, I don't mind a little egg on my face when I am wrong. We are all only as good as our word.

McMeanie87's picture

Lol..ive seen a few srcs dissapear since he went down.

McMeanie87's picture

Im sure he is a good guy and treated people well, and the article does make it sound good. But a multi million dollar illegal business and he gets a year? I dont know bro. Just doesnt sound normal. People get more time in my town for crimes farless serious than his case. Who knows. It will always be a debate on the to the topic. Everyone has the right on whatever their opinion may be

Pale's picture

Yea, you know he probably did throw a few people under the bus, I don't doubt that. But he was the kingpin, that usually doesn't leave you with as many options. The drug unit , prosecutors office and local PD also just cleared a big pay day, they are as happy as pigs in slop. And it also mentions that the feds are still looking at him. If they nail him it will not matter at all that this is his first offense. I have a feeling they won't tho.

McMeanie87's picture

Ya the task force definently got a nice chunk..but that was toilet paper money to muta..im sure he had enough stashed in other areas to last him quite a long time..which will come in handy for lawyer fees if the feds bring the hammer down on him...hes a genius kid, he wasnt dumb enough to not hide the majority of his cash..

selfster19's picture

Did u jus snitch that he snitched?

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McMeanie87's picture

I quite possibly just dry snitched without knowing..pretty sure im safe from needing to be moved to pc lol

selfster19's picture

Lmao!......I was even gonna throw the dry part in on that comment but decided not to. Lol

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McMeanie87's picture

Haha..im just a eroids community activist passing information!! Lol

Sumatra_Triangle's picture

He treated me good.

Trapsquatch's picture

Snitch is a harsh word dude....If he got a good lawyer and he has never been in trouble it is possible....he is also a young white kid and that helps, anyone who say's different has never been to court....I also am not saying that he did not because MOST guys when pinned with serious time will roll and that goes for guys on here as well that claim they would do their time....everyone is a tuff guy until they get slapped with some real time and have a way out....If he did he will be in PC with chesters and Rapo's and never be able to look at himself with any sort of pride...But look all I am getting at is Snitch is a word that in Jail/Prison will get some body beat down and shipped out and if your gonna throw that shit out there you better have some REAL FACTS and not just assumptions dude.....Just my opinion

selfster19's picture

I hear you on that. Being from the system.....if u call someone a snitch without proper paperwork theres a green light on you and the so called snitch both........ but only you if you dont cough up some paperwork and cough it up quickly.

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McMeanie87's picture

Well bro if it looks like a duck and quacks like a.duck more than likely its a duck..ur right in needing proof but looking at the big picture with every felony he had and only got a year? Hes either blowing the prosecutor or will be in a discovery pack in the future..but hey i could.be wrong

tonytulo's picture

Lmfao my record and paper work speaks for itself in the matter of doing my time but thats a totally different story. Sent you a fr .when i did my time when you called out someone you needed to have seen the paper work to prove it. He indeed is a slimy pos bro sorry.

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