posted Thu, 10/09/2014 - 01:30
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Steroid myths article
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by Anthony Roberts
http://www.strengthvillain.com/?p=184
no, androgen receptors do not "downgrade" or get "insensitive"
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To the subject. Has anyone just simply changed their cycle? When gains have stopped I've switched out the tren for deca or deca for tren.
also, id use an oral at the end of a cycle.
Has woked for me as far as drug changes is concerned.
OpticultRemove this dudes EXP tag he has no business giving advice. This thread was made because he was telling everyone in a sources SI that receptors down regulate and its like taking drugs like cocaine and meth and etc.
You!.......... just sit back and take a fkn breath bro............... let me deal with issues that involves eroids community ok!............... i have a MOD with his finger on the trigger already gunning for you..... you either back down or i become the issue.
Opticultyessir beefcake
I and the other MODS are fully well aware of you are.......... you know me, and you know how i work!.... what im trying to say here is just be careful around me ok........ drop the "beefcake" shit and get yourself on a diet before you even contemplate taking the piss outa me again...... not for one second mistake my calmness here as weakness........ we clear?
Opticultyessir show me the light
Ya I'm not sure I agree with that..and how it says u can make gains with a shitty workout regiment..I've seen ppl use gear and not workout and the only thing that grew on them was their facial hair and gained water weight.it may help ppl with muscle wasting diseases but that's it. .just my .02
Yes they do. This is not something I've heard it's happened to me on more then one occasion. After a certain time on cycle you just don't respond well anymore and gains stop. The only thing an increase in calories does is get you fat.
Pure BS that comment bro............ you need more time using roids before even getting involved with receptor issues........... i never come "OFF" but do i have receptor issues "NO" because i understand the mechanics of protein assimilation and half-life cleave........ also there aint no way on earth you can bigger without laying down a little more Bodyfat...... in fact a Bodyfat increase is exactly what we are looking for whilst in off-season mode (BULKING).
Thats the time the boys are seperated from the men.......... the wheat from the chaff as they say lmao!!
You think you are having a hard time now trying to gain size and weight........... just wait until you hit 230lbs and are still hungry for more!...... thats when it gets fkn seriously extreme
stunnerhrEverytime I think I'm somewhat decent on aas knowledge vike always sheds more light. Sure glad you're around.
Btw I hope u didn't get into to much trouble I seen where u got reported to a mod the other day lmfao I bout spit my drink across the room when I read that lol
Ohh god I didn't mean to wake up the beast lol. Not even gonna argue. I'll report back in 20 weeks.
Heres some motivation for you bro........... at your age i was walking around at 270+ covered in brand new stretch marks (upperpecs,delts and thighs).. at 6.1 i class myself as an ecto/meso and gaining does not come easy to me like some think it does!........ i have to eat like a horse and train to tendon snapping capacity to make changes.
The past couple of years i hung around 235 staying lean year round then dropping like 10lbs to compete.... this year i decided to attempt to hit big numbers again and went on a long bulk, i maxed out at 264lbs and am now ready for a show this Sunday and will be 240 on the nose at sub 6%..... depending on the quality of the carb load i may dip just under 240 but i am not bothered about.... what i have proved to myself is that i can still gain and lay down new hard mass even at this age now............ happy phucker or what :))))
We all know you a freak of nature with some awesome genetics and better work ethic. I'm considering moving over there to train with you lol. If it makes you proud I'm up 10lbs since we last talked a few days ago. Everything's going perfect. Uou think I should slow my roll a bit?
Oh and btw you better post some damn pictures of you from your comp. I can't wait to see the package you bring.
lol.......... my son is up too, hes competing against roiders and he is natty? im more nervous for him than me bro lol............ re-pics...... i had a million pics and forum posts up for the past 2yrs + now my profile is clear and staying that way........ snippets in threads is the way forwards for me now... nothing more.
No............... i want you to go fkn ballistic!!....... you need stats to match the knowledge you put out to prove you practice your own shit........... i am sick of seeing you taking flak on the board.............. its time to WALK the TALK bro and silence the doubters.
Ya well i wasn't here the last 2 years so you're gonna have to send me them somehow. I need to see this. And ya even if you told me to slow down i really wasn't gonna lol.
For the future I'm never gonna get lean again, 220 at 20%bf was way more impressive to people then 185 at sub 10. Lesson learned lol. But give me till the end of this bulk. Ill b back up at 220 and hopefully a much prettier version then last year.
Hey bro with all due respect you have 1 year maybe 1.6 years off AAS experience and you come off like you know it all....humble yourself bro because real word experience in AAS you lack....ANYONE can sound like a google scholar or read something intriguing and regurgitate it....but guys like viking whom have laid the foundation and put in the work and made it happen I listen 2....guy's like you who sound arrogant and look natural physique (No offense my friend) I dont really hold a lot of weight 2 your words....
I will always listen and take notes to anything Viking says . He helped me with my cycle. I'm no steroid guru by ANY sense of the word. But for whatever reason I'm able to help out a huge majority of people who ask questions on this forum because nobody asks anything past the intermediate level. And bro, if you do the math, me and you have the same amount of lbm, 167lbs, and it never works out perfectly like thay either, when you cut so you'd end up with even less. So I'm sure you look pretty natural yourself (no offense either). Both of our physiques are totally attainable natirally. But were both here now aren't we.
The problem is regurgitation. Honestly I can care less if you get your information from a book, but if its not real world make sure you stress that. You do help others and for that noone can take that from you. Like Vike says you need to step up your game and if your blasting n cruising at your age thats real fkn stupid. I want to see a better physique from you ESPECIALLY if you are doing that. Keep fighting the good fight and stay humble.
Speaking of non-stop blasting... You have ran 6 cycles in what, a year and a half? You are no better than anyone else here. Instead of worrying about his problems you ought be more concerned about what is happening within your own body. I sure hope you take some of the advice you like to give everyone else and actually cruise for awhile before you hurt yourself.
You should really start following someone else around and stop starting shit with me. I have been doing this much longer then joining here and im trt. Im honestly glad you like to follow my posts maybe you could learn something instead of crying about losing your picture karma. stop fkn trying to start shit and worry about yourself.
Again, your hypocrisy is astounding!! I am not starting shit, I am simply pointing how "full of shit" you are. So either you were lying in your old posts or you're lying now. I don't even care. Just stop preaching to people or sticking in your nose where it don't belong and I won't have to remind you of your own words.
Lol.....do I sence Roid rage....guys chill out we are all hear to help each other, some have more knowledge than others and thats the way it will always be, no point in spitting your dummy out about....get along and lets all grow like a weed
If you dont care then why worry about me so much? Honestly you are holding a grudge against me from many months ago and I left it alone but you keep fkn coming at me, Why? Seriously? Did I asshurt you that bad? Just fkn leave it alone and dont bother responding any more to what I post. If I posted lies then thats on me not you. Maybe my gains are better? Maybe because to me this is not a popularity contest and to you it is? Fuck if I know but I wont be responding to you anymore and I suggest you do the same or you can pm me and we can both try and hurt each other with bad words.
As per the comment to Pale.....lets chill a little, most of you guys all offer good advice and some great advise, we will all like or dislike peoples comments....just the way it will always be...I look to you guys for advice and not to see who and when they are spiting there dummy out....lol
Apprreciate it bro. You know this board, what do we spend most of our time doing? Anwering pretty basic questions and setting up VERY simple stacks. I have real world experience with basically everything I advise people on. Just look at the cycle logs right now, the most advanced stack is test dbol and hgh lol. The day you see me giving advice on a 5+ gram stack with slin igf-1 hgh etc etc call me out lol.
If I may give you 1 last piece of advice....you have about a year of aas your blasting and cruising and you have also ran hgh....I suggest you slow it down bro you have tried almost every compound there is in a year....Here is my bit of advice FOCUS MORE on your training and diet bro it seems you are 2 consumed with the drug aspect of bodybuilding and anyone here will tell you drugs is only 20-30% of the battle...hgh should not be thrown in so soon and blasting and cruising at your age not competing tells me one thing your scared 2 come off....good luck to you
No I do not have a year and a half of blasting and crusing under my belt. You know what. I'll be the bigger man here and just leave it. You obviously haven't been here very long or youd knkw what I'm about. It took me a little over 2 years put on 90lbs more then half natural. And I don't knkw how to eat and train lol??? Cmon son, you sir are a moron.
You missed the whole point..."exp" btw I did not say you had a year and a half of blasting and cruising I said you have a 1.6 years of AAS and you are already blasting and cruising at 25 and use HGH and you just said it yourself you trained a little over a year natural and then jumped on drugs in full swing....So 2 be honest you are the "Moron"
Youre right I did. As an "exp" it's my job to walk away from this stupid unproductive argument with a child. So wih that being said I wish you the best of luck in reaching your goals and hope your stay healthy. Good day
He gets it, your beating a dead horse now.
I see that, I've been lurking for a while but its almost winter so I'm trying to get back in here and help out. There hasn't been a lot of action in the logs but rest up cold weather brings in the next crew of the helpful and helpless so be prepared. I get concerned over your experience due to your age but as long as you stay as respectful as you are you get my vote. Just don't fuck it up lol.
Again I say this with respect Comparing me and you and trying to alter numbers to justify your physique is not a solution....your exp tag is not in knowledge it is in popularity what I am getting at is you need 2 put more time in....I have seen you act really arrogant when the fact is you are blasting and cruising at 25?and you dont compete....your stance on hcg etc is set and stone and you claim your way is right and we are uninformed when you have probably been using hcg for less than a year....because check this out if fertility is what your looking for I Guarantee you blasting and cruising is gonna hinder that and go ahead and throw a science book at me but it is what it is....all I am saying is humble yourself do your time and practice what you preach to others.....