posted Tue, 08/05/2014 - 12:06
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Can hcg and gnrh be used at the same time?
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Finished my cycle... 14 weeks long. Started my HCG right away and thinking about using GNRH too to kick start my testes and fertility etc... Is this OK to combine? Thanks in advance. Also using nolva and clomid, but that's irrelevant to my package down under. Thanks again!
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No. Not if your goal is to kick start your natural test production. Your gonna inject the gnrh which is gonna signal your pituitary to relaase LH and FSH. Hcg is synthetic LH and if you use it your body's gonna realize this and tell your pituitary to stop releasing LH. Hcg should be used before to get your balls back to full size so as soon as you start your pct you can produce test at optimal levels.
Nice write up! OK, so would you stop the hcg for now and take about 2mg of gnrh for a month? Or would you finish off the hcg and then take the gnrh, if that would work? I felt like last time I used gnrh I felt it work more down below. Been on hcg for 5 days and don't feel like I did with gnrh. Taking 400iu hcg a day currently. Thanks and please let me know!
what irongame said, do your research ffs. stop taking the HCG, wait a 2 weeks if its long ester. one 100mcg shot is all you need, hell thats pretty much the only way they sell the shit. i have personally done 1 shot, waited 3 days then started torem at 20mg for 4 weeks with exemestane ai to keep e2 in check.
Read my comment below...
its all good man, but regardless, how would we know if it was a typo or not. i think a little "tough love" is fair compared to shutting yourself down for the rest of your life. hope your pct goes well, just do you research next time.
you will castrate yourself taking 2mg of gnrh. You need to know exactly what the fuck your doing if your gonna use this stuff because if you fuck up you will become sterile. 2mg is 20 times the dose you use idk where the fuck you got the number from. you take a 100mcg shot and thats it. You need to list out your entire cycle and everything. 400iu of hcg isn't gonna do dick if you havent been using it all cycle. You ddidnt do your research did you?
Holy jeezez guys! Chill out man. I miscued a #. Yes I've done my research, this is my first time thinking of dosing tript with hcg. Yes it is 100mcg. I have my exemestane here, my adex, letro and all my serms.
So to skip the bickerness, you would go straight to GNRH rather than using hcg? And PS, I ran hcg my whole cycle... This isn't my first rodeo. More like my 20th.
I won't skip the bitterness because i have idiots come on here all the time where it wouldn't be a typo and they would actually be planning on running 2mgs. So I need to get my point across that if you do that at the very least you won't be having babies and you will be on trt for the rest of you life. Triptorlin is used in guys with prostate cancer so they give them a large dose of it like 2mgs or more so the hypothalamus releases a shit ton of GnRH which causes the pituitary to release all of its LH and all the test at once so theres no left so theres no more test left which the cancer thrives on. And no I would still use hcg. It sounds like you didnt do your research because it says you've been taking it for 5 days at 400iu. Thats a normal dose to use twice a week for the duration of the cycle not to blast at the end. If you waited to the end which you did the standard protocol is 1000iu eod for 10 days stoping 4 days before pct. Idk exact when you shoot the trip tho. Probalby right around the day you start pct i would think but I would double check.
Ironman... What is the MAX amount of Trip one would use in a dosing? I've read studied where they gave 100mcg a day for 3 days, and the dude cake out great. So 300mcg. Would that be too much? I'm thinking of taking 200mcg and not anymore for 6-9 months. What u think? Good thing I've already made a beautiful baby girl. If not, I wouldn't play so hard here.
I won't even pretend to be an expert on it caus I'm not. Bjt I've read somewhere that you can only use it a few times per year, 100mcg each dose is plenty. It was made for guys with prostate cancer that thrives on testosterone. So they give you a big dose of trip and it causes the pitutary to release so much lh at once that it has no more. So without the pituitary releasing lh your balls will not produce testosterone. So no more test to fuel the cancer growth. So thate why you need to be so damn careful with it. You use to much and you fuck yourself.
I would suggest googling, but I do no that you shouldn't exceed 100mcgs.
Irongame... Quick question bro. When I used the 100mcg of Trip this time around, I didn't feel anything at all. Still not. The last time I used it, about 9 months ago probably at 100mcg, I almost immediately started to feel like it was yanking on my sack and I was popping just a tiny wood while driving for no reason on that day and the next week or so. Is it natural not to feel a thing at all after the shot of Trip???
Yes its normal bro.
I didnt feel anything for 7 days after my first shot of 100mcg.
Well I'm glad you stated that no one should use 2mg of trip. Idk how someone would even want to stock up on that or want to get that much. Lol. Yes, the trip needs to be used about 1 day before you start your pct of clomid or Nolva etc... Like 10-14 after long Esthers clear. U are correct. My HCG run was wrong, but I'll be saving it for my next cycle. Too many people give info that is wrong and I followed that one, but wasn't too bad. Just not enough.