+ 1 How can i build my 1* cicle ? Need opinions
Hi there, I'd like to start my 1* cicle , i'm studying some of the steroids and the related side effects of them . I'm 19/20 Y.O. 13/14 bf 181 75 kg .
I was thinking of buying some Winstrol 10mg tabs and (maybe) some oxandrolone 10mg tab and mix them. I have thought i can use 30mg of both of them for 4 weeks .After these i'll stop and restart after 2/3 weeks (i don t know how much time should pass exactly)
I won't dangerous side effects even because i'm really young and maybe a bit scared about this,but i want to do this. Im not sure of buying oxa (it costs a bit ) i thought i could mix winstrol with methyltestosterone but i've found really a bit info about this last.
I want to build lean mass without water retention/fat I'd like to have a 7%bf for 85kg that's my task.
If anyone wants to help me .... 
thank's everyone (sorry my bad english )
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There is no quick fix. Without the proper diet and work ethic you will set yourself up for disaster, ESPECIALLY at your age. Listen to these guys
I really hope you listen to these fellas in here and get your diet going. Aka force feeding clean meals and bust ass training. If that's not in line your not going to gain anything anyways
i +3 the whole thread............... thanks guys for a smooth ride
X2! Awesome!
giov97In a month time i'll be 20. My bf it is 13,6%.Anyway, I understand that you're looking to protect me from the risks of doping, are very young, I know. Maybe I wanted to take 20mg of winstrol(maybe some clen and stop). But honestly I do not want to encounter risks ... just try ... protected by monthly analyzes. More than anything else I fear for my dick works wonders why I'm only doing naturalmente.forse influenced by someone on drugs .... I know it's stupid and childish behavior, the fact to be as "big" of the gym, makes little sense. But I suppose everyone wants to be, maybe for megalomania, like all bodybuilders. I think I change my mind. Thank you.
Let's help you get big without the gear. Come visit the diet clinic and I'll help you out. Bet I can put 10lbs on you quick without steroids.
giov97How can i contact you? (thanks anyway)
I've sent you a FR. Pm me and we'll take a look at your diet and training schedule.
I know you can.
Good advice from the guys........... food is king here!.. Growth plates have not yet seized and there is NO fkn way on earth ANY of these guys is going to advise use of AAS in any way ,shape or form.
Applaud the guys below for actually giving you THE best advice available for someone so young.
If you think VAR is expensive wait till you see my FOOD bill... and I am currently leaning out!! AAS is the icing on the cake brother.. and you are young enough to fuck yourself up for good if you start now.. fair warning bro.
Your both 19 and 20 years old, both 13 and 14 % body fat? Youre to young. You risk messing yourself up permenantly.
giov97Okay. But if i would start with something to reduce my bf? I was obese that's why i have got a quite bad 14 bf percentage.. Maybe only something like this.... i thought that win was the safest thing. Well i wrong. Thanks everyone
spare no expense on whey isolate and chicken breasts. take a scoop of creatine monohydrate, and a preworkout if you have money for that. here are some photos of me when i was 19. you got this. no roids needed.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/pics-from-awhile-ago
IronMonkWalking on an incline holding 25lb plates is the best thing ive done to lose weight. I sweat buckets.
Winny kills my body with fatigue and makes my workouts harder and my joints hurt and I cramp easily....
L-carnitine and glutamine will get you pretty cut with proper cardio.
Its all about that ALCAR baby!!
Wait 5 plus years and while you wait train hard eat right and continue to do your homework on what things will do to your body and what your goals are. After these 5 years you should have enough knowledge to build your first cycle if at that time you choose to do so.
Sometimes I read these post and swear that they are someone just fckn around, and then I get to the bottom and realize they are serious. Smh.
Yes,!!! FCKING DITTO
Best anabolic thing u can get is food get some n then get some more til ur really old enough to afford it n be smart about it after lots of research n also know oral only cycles aren't any good build a base first n get big with food
giov97Even the win blocks the natural test??? f**k i've read that his side aren't so heavy as this one.
every anabolic androgenic steroid suppresses test. my friend used winstrol for a few weeks before getting his blood drawn at the doc's and they put him on test replacement therapy.
I'll give you one thing, it's topical if nothing else!
giov97Yes..i know. What about only win? 30 mg/day ?
you wont make jack shit for gains using it, and you will suppress your natural test.
IronMonk19years old
Better clear out of here kid....
That thunder in the distance ain't the weather.
the shit you are thinking about using would make for a really bad cycle dude. if you are a bit scared dont do it. you have room to grow without using roids.