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Jc74s's picture

Oh yea I mean I add arom in there here there but I try not to push it to much .If you study the old cycle from back in the day a.i usage was limited I know it's the future now but still they have impressive body's then .

irongame427's picture

Hell ya they did. I didn't use ai on first test cycle and gained 28lbs in 12 weeks and only lost 5lbs when if was over. So it's not like I was holding that much water. I did notice at the begrnning of my last cycle befor I added the ai I was kinda on an emotional roller coaster. Idk i guess it's something I need to experiment with and find what works best. I would rather use the least amount of drugs possible tho I had taking all this shit every single day.

irongame427's picture

Yaa you def need estrogen to grow if you crash it you won't grow but I believe what most guys myself included is by keeping it in normal range which most likely requires an AI it will be enough to grow. There's some interesting debates with high estro and tren tho. Apparently tren really shines in a high estrogen environment. So well that the finaplix pellets for the cattle have a dose of estrogen as it makes them grow so much faster. I'm gonna do a lot more research on it and them maybe drop my AI for a few weeks and see what happens.

Jc74s's picture

Yea I read that about the cattle before but you have to rember a cow and human will respond different when comes to these types if study's

irongame427's picture

Yaa thats forsure. Like i said Im gonna do alot more research on it before I do anything. Everythings going great now so i might not even mess with it. If i dropped my ai i would probably have to start the prami which i don't wanna do. I tried to run my test npp cycle with no ai and no prami and started getting gyno so i definitely need one or other.

Gymjunkie01's picture

Man your dosages are pretty high bro.. A gram each ? Decca should not be ran as much as test.. Optimal is 75% of your test dosage

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Jc74s's picture

Yea it's high but that how I roll brother rember what's high to me could be low to you my test dose is a little higher but I want post the actual numbers .i run my test higher then deca to counteract the sides that some experience

irongame427's picture

As long is your dick is stil working your good to go in my opinion. I think that's the main reason why guys run the test higher.

Gymjunkie01's picture

I'm running a test e and test c mixture with nandralone Deccanate my absolute favorite cycle

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Jc74s's picture

Man good mass stack right there can't go wrong .

Jc74s's picture

Hell yea his test is strong no doubt about my skin stays glowing .Do you use hcg every cycle I never ran it

Jc74s's picture

I know what you mean man I love prov to does make a major difference

Jc74s's picture

Ok I got you thanks for that feed back brother

NuclearMess's picture

Good morning CNC brothers! Go get BIGGER

irongame427's picture

Question for you guys. You think there's any benifits go injecting ED instead of eod? In terms of less sides maybe even better gains since hormone levels are more stable and there isn't 1 day of high levels and one of lower. I'm on 100mgs of prop and 100mgs of tren. I've done 100mgs of prop ed last summer but I can't remember if I noticed any difference. I

waterhead235's picture

ED minimizes sides for me. I'm in week 6 of my first Tren A run and I'm pinning ED. There have been a couple days where I missed an injection and it did effect my attitude negatively. I did a little experiment last year with Test prop, I pinned ED, EOD, E3D, and E4D and kept a log. Pinning ED was the only way to stop the hormonal swings for me. Prop EOD has my nipples on fire but ED with the same weekly total and all is good.

NuclearMess's picture

Iron I notice less sides running prop ED as opposed to EOD. Just me tho

Big Pimp Daddy's picture

Seems to be the general consensus for ace. I've only ever used hex so I did that 3x a week. Gonna use ace this cycle and do ed

irongame427's picture

I'm gonna start doing ed injects and see if I notice a difference and if not I'll go back to eod. But ed shots for the next 10 weeks does not sounds like fun lol.

Big Pimp Daddy's picture

Yah I like it lol I get sad on days I don't inject. I'm on test e and eq now and doing 3x a week

johhnygslandscape's picture

Ok quick question been running 750mg of cnc test e and 300 deca for joint support. Im sweating like a whore in church at night...almost like tren. I've never sweat from test, this happened a couple of weeks after i upped my dose from 500....ive run pharma at 900 a wk and never had tren like sweats. My gf even asked me if i was running tren again. Im also just about thru a 30ml jug and started getting some noticable pip the last couple of weeks....no redness or swelling but i know its there, had zero pip prior and i started pinning on april 1st....other than that im seeing some huge body changes which i couldnt be happier with. Any advice or theories?

NuclearMess's picture

Deca makes me sweat like a whore in church brother

irongame427's picture

And deca does it to me also even at only 200mgs ew.

irongame427's picture

Ya I get night sweats and sweat more during the day when I'm on a high dose of test. Especially when I get over 500mgs a week.

Gymjunkie01's picture

I can tell u exactly what it is.. When u run high quality test it makes you sweat.. Promise ya that's what it is

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NuclearMess's picture

^^^What he said