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irongame427's picture

You should definitely be bloated running that combo bro. Im on 750mgs of test right now and aromasin at 6.25mgs ed and I'm holding water, moon face from hell right now. You're only running aromasin twice a week ( which I would advise against) but if its working for you then run with it but even my aromasin protocol is not enough to keep me dry. The t3 is going to raise you bmr but I don't think it will keep you dry. Is the reason your running the t3 to counter the thyroid suppression of the npp? When I was on it my blood work showed it suppressed my thyroid, and since coming off and re running bloods its back to normal so 19-nors definitely do suppress it. If thats the reason you're using it I would drop it to 25mcgs as i believe thats about what our body puts out naturally. You're 210 now but what was your starting weight and BF? The higher my body fat is the harder it is for me to tell if I'm retaining water as I'm already looking smooth. Only way I can really tell is looking at my face. Maybe you're just a lucky one who's not prone to bloat? Ive heard of some people who just don't bloat from shit like dbol and anadrol or even test. Idk why maybe there body doesn't have a high rate of aromatization. Or is you diet squeaky clean, all low gi carbs, low sodium and high water intake? Idk what to tell you bro lol. Id be happy if i wasn't retaining water, i look like shit with this moon face.

D4N2014's picture

Exactly the reason I'm running t3. Cause of suppression. N u r right, our bodies naturally produce 25mcgs daily. So I figured the extra 25 would keep off some unwanted fat. My carbs r prolly to low. Sorry to hear bout the moon face. I ran Dbol before... Starting at 210 n shot up to 225lbs. But alot of water n fat.
With this cycle I started at 195lbs bf 16% or so.
Now 210 bf %13-14. It fluctuates.

irongame427's picture

Ive been a forever bulker since I started lifting so Im not to knowledge on fat burners. Im in the process of my first cut so I'm learning. But I don't know that much about t3, but I do know that the reason It helps burn fat is because it raises your bmr. So if you're in a 500 cal defict eating 2500 cals and you add t3 you're now in an 800 calorie defict while still eating 2500 calories ( I just threw that number out there randomly i have no idea by how much it boosts metabolism). So idk if t3 has any other mechanism of burn fat which it might, but if not it doenst seem like its gonna do anything for keeping off fat while bulking. its just gonna make it so you have to eat more to gain. I could be wrong, and it might have some other mechanism of burning fat, but like i said I don't know that much about it yet. Im gonna be starting it in a week or so after i do some more research. But its definitely a good idea to have a replacement dose while on a 19-nor as npp did suppress my thyroid.

D4N2014's picture

I hear ya on the drol. But there's a source selling inject drol. So I was gonna switch to that. Diet is pretty much anything in front of me. I'm keeping Protein @250 range. Carbs r moderate, but heavy 4 times out of the week, pre workout n post. Fats I don't worry bout, jus no Trans. I got all anal b4 an didn't gain as much as I wanted, so I decided to b less particular this time around. N I'm using the t3 cause of the drop in thyroid activity from 19-nors

Jc74s's picture

http://www.eroids.com/pics/bulking-275 five pounds away from 280 eating angus burger before bed should be there soon arms look smooth but it happen you.Tell me what you think were all family

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irongame427's picture

Looking fucking massive bro! Keep it up

Jc74s's picture

Thanks man that means a lot

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waterhead235's picture

Looking huge Jc. I think you are going about this the only way possible. You have a goal to be huge, you ain't gonna get there half steppin. Eat big, train big, and supplement big! Just getting to 300 is gonna be a huge psychological win that you can then use to your advantage to continue making gains. Keep it up brother and you will be at your goal before you know it.

Jc74s's picture

Thanks man that means a lot .

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recon_vet80's picture

Cant wait for the site to open again, gotta huge order that needs to be filled..been using nothing but cleans Sust.. switched from another Source to cleans and the results Speak for themself.

drewmitz's picture

Been on. Prop kick start and test e cycle. I bought some cut stack from Cnc and feel like I should do 1 ml for 20 days. Is that right, I stick to old faithful test e with eq or deca with a prop or dbol kick start. So this cut stack is all new to me any help would be greatfull

irongame427's picture

What are you running? Deca eq? If so like jc said save the cut stack for when your cutting. If you are not running the deca and eq and cutting recommending a dose is kinda tough. I personally would run 1ml eod, but depending on your size and cycle experience that might not be enough. But 75mgs each of tren test and mast would be enough for me. But maybe not for you. If you have ran test tren in the past just adjust the dose to what you want but if not 1ml or 1.25ml eod would be a good starting point IMO.

drewmitz's picture

Thank you, I am at the end of my general cycle and picked up the cut stack for later. This is my fourth cycle, I stick to what works I have my diet in check and just wanted to try something new. I won't touch the cut stack for a little while up just wanted some info and thank you for it.

Jc74s's picture

If your going to run dbol test and deca save the cut stack to when your cutting .

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irongame427's picture

Since people have been asking. Clean said he be closing for 45 days 36 days ago. So were getting close.

Muscleman101555's picture

but he said he's reopening in 2 week like 2 weeks ago.

AfricanMark's picture

Nice post Smile

Muscleman101555's picture

When is the reopening

irongame427's picture

Getting blood work done today. Been on 750mgs of his test e for a month or so now. Cant wait to see where my test levels are and if my Ai is dialed in.

That one bro's picture

Same here, been on 750 test e and 250 test p for a month, I'll tell you right now it's on point or over dosed.

irongame427's picture

I'm hoping I'll get my test results tomorrow Btw I told you id have a respectable size hoarde soon. Check it out I think I've got you beat now.

bostonrick's picture

is clears grand reopening 2moro?

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1ronhead4752's picture

Sup bros anyone ever had a problem with clears letro? Or maybe it's just letro in general heard this stuff takes a little over a week to really kick in hence the 48-96 hour half life but I have a buddy who said it worked over night but I think he's an idiot lol. Any feedback on clears letro would be appreciated!

recon_vet80's picture

I'm seeming to have an issue with the Adex I got from him months ago. I know someone had the same problem a few months ago also. Not sure if I should just say oh well or contact him.

waterhead235's picture

Contact him and explain what's going on. If you approach him respectfully and professionally he will treat you the same way.

recon_vet80's picture

Thanks bro I will definitely do that, thanks for the heads up.

sr_505's picture

The stuff seemed to work overnight for me, but I took the whole 2.5mg pill thinking that it was a .25mg pill. Your buddy could've done that too.

Modified's picture

Just read on rxlist that full estrogen suppression only takes 3 days, for women, at least. 2-3 weeks for steady state levels to be achieved. So I think there is some fairly quick initial effect. I frequently take it before my injections, even large test doses and don't get too bloated.